wanner251 17 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 What are some of your favorite villain/antagonist themes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Mola Ram's theme/Darth Vaders ThemeNazi ThemeGeorge Lucas's Theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanner251 17 Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share Posted May 17, 2012 Which Nazi Theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 the one from TLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russds 8 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Molar ram is nice.Bad guys from home alone. I like it more than its causin lex luthors theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 The Government motif from Close Encounters.The Emperor's Theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 The bad guy theme from Chicken Run is great. Also the ET themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 The Government motif from Close Encounters.That theme is badass.The bad guy theme from Chicken Run is great. Also the ET themes.Yes to both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 @ 2:56. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1_freeze 131 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 The Emperor's ThemeImperial MarchThe Ringwraith/Nazgul ThemeThe dark Motif in for example the "Commandos Arrive" track at 0:50 (from Black Sunday) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Keys from E.T., T-1000 from T2, Harry and Marv from Home Alone, Jaws and villains from Superman II spring to mind first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 The Government motif from Close Encounters.That theme is badass.I love its close cousin, in Jaws 2 "The Big Jolt!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Damien's theme from "The Final Conflict". You don't get a bigger, or badder villan than the Antichrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Molar ram is nice.Molar ram? Makes a root canal sound like a walk in the park.Imperial MarchUnfortunately the ultimate revelation of the saga is that the Imperial March is not a villain theme at all. The theme represents the Chosen One, who the prophecy foretells will bring balance to the Force, and is thus the ultimate hero of the entire saga when he vanquishes the evil Emperor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Voldemort's Theme from HPSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Clown Dream from Pee-Wee's Big Adventure My sister runs screaming from the room when I play this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Molar ram is nice.Molar ram? Makes a root canal sound like a walk in the park.Imperial MarchUnfortunately the ultimate revelation of the saga is that the Imperial March is not a villain theme at all. The theme represents the Chosen One, who the prophecy foretells will bring balance to the Force, and is thus the ultimate hero of the entire saga when he vanquishes the evil Emperor. Nope, it represents the march of the Empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Someday you will learn that the means the previous comment was so full of bullshit I couldn't keep myself from falling to the floor laughing.That day has not yet come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 March of the Villians, I like the whimsical take of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Clown Dream from Pee-Wee's Big Adventure My sister runs screaming from the room when I play this.Wow, i didn't knew who the composer was, and i guessed it was Danny Elfman. And i'm right.I'm awesome.Someday you will learn that the means the previous comment was so full of bullshit I couldn't keep myself from falling to the floor laughing.That day has not yet come.I realized that after i had posted. And an empty post is worse than a reply on bullshit that contains bullshit, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score_Fan 36 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Voldemort's theme (all of them )All the Villain themes from the Spider-Man trilogyJoker's themeRas' al Ghul themeDarth Vader'sThe Raptor theme from JPThe Emperors themeCaptain Hook's theme (Hook)Switchblade Sam from Dennis the menaceHarvey Dent/Two-FaceJawsMola Ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Hooray! The day HAS come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Which Nazi Theme?The Federation Droids. Awesome, fun and almost entirely forgotten. The Predator (Silverstri) has a couple of great broody motifs, too. They feel very primal and ritualistic, as bad guy themes go. Easy to overlook, but superb examples nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russds 8 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 ooh, what about Dracula Wojciech Kilar version.. Man, personally I think one of the most overlooked and best scores / Theme's out there.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB92kcrwBo4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 The Federation Droids. Awesome, fun and almost entirely forgotten.Oh shit, that was stuck in my head for years...And it fits straight into the amazing soundscape of that score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 ooh, what about Dracula Wojciech Kilar version.. Man, personally I think one of the most overlooked and best scores / Theme's out there.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB92kcrwBo4And this: If we talk about JW only, I would say:- Imperial March- Nuclear Man Theme- Dracula Main Title- The Chamber of Secrets- The Droid Battle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 And this: Well another demonstrate that Williams is a light year ahead of dramatic action writing comparing to these other guys.But I really like the love theme of this score. The action writing is always very demanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComposerEthan 8 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Can I have a link and and times to Key's Theme from E.T and The Government theme from Close Encounters ? Is Mola Ram's theme that chanting that plays in "The Temple of Doom" (the actual track title) and in Broken Bridge? While I love the Nazi March in TLC, I like the Nazi motif from the Raiders. It's vaguely militaristic and kind of weird to me, but I like it. And it sounds so much like the Empire motif from ANH. I love Dovchenko's theme from KOCS and the treatment it gets in "Ants". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShowUStheHOOK 8 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 not a traditional villian theme, but hopefully i'm not the only one who liked this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 - Nuclear Man ThemeUgh, no! But to each their own.Not mentioned so far:Skeletor's Theme. So awesome. Oh and yeah, the Turtles music is cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex1272 0 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 JGs Klingon theme. As least the way it was used in TMP and TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I like the Two-Face motif from Batman Forever, which Goldenthal reprised as Mr. Freeze's motif in Batman & Robin with some more operatic touches. It was more or less Goldenthal's general villain theme and I think it was the strongest villain music in the series. I wonder if it would have been brought back if Schumacher got to make Batman Triumphant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russds 8 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Is Mola Ram's theme that chanting that plays in "The Temple of Doom" (the actual track title) and in Broken Bridge? I believe "the temple of doom", which also appears on the broken bridge, is kind of the sacrifice, or 'kali-ma' theme. The actual Mola Ram theme is the 4 note motif heard during the beginning of the Mine Car Chase, and also a few times during the Broken Bridge. Both are great. Mola Ram's Theme at 0:11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 if Schumacher got to make Batman TriumphantTo whoever made the call not to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComposerEthan 8 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Is Mola Ram's theme that chanting that plays in "The Temple of Doom" (the actual track title) and in Broken Bridge? I believe "the temple of doom", which also appears on the broken bridge, is kind of the sacrifice, or 'kali-ma' theme. The actual Mola Ram theme is the 4 note motif heard during the beginning of the Mine Car Chase, and also a few times during the Broken Bridge. Both are great. Mola Ram's Theme at 0:11Is there any more examples? Time for broken bridge please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicebrallice 134 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I like muntz's theme from up! I think it has an interesting development as it starts off all fun, warm and happy in 'up with titles' and then becomes darker and darker as the story progresses. 'seizing the spirit of adventure' is an interesting track where it clashes with ellie's theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonzoe 18 Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I'm going to say some that people have yet to mention.Basil Poledouris' "Riders of Doom" theme from Conan the Barbarian, which is up there with Williams' "Imperial March", imo. Jerry Goldsmith's "Richter" theme from Total RecallJerry Goldsmith's "Bear" theme from The EdgeJerry Goldsmith's "Cash theme" from Exrtreme PrejudiceJerry Goldsmith's "Alien" theme from AlienJerry Goldsmith's theme for the Russian enemy in Rambo: First Blood Part II Danny Elfman's "Penguin theme" and "Catwoman theme" from Batman ReturnsDanny Elfman's "Red Dragon Theme" from Red Dragon Danny Elfman's "Headless Horseman theme" from Sleepy HollowLeonard Rosenman's "RoboCain theme" from Robocop 2Various villain themes from Shirley Walker's B:TAS and The Flash series.Shirley Walker's "Phantasm theme" from B:MOTP.Michael Giachinno's "Syndrome theme" from The IncrediblesMarco Beltrami's "Rasputin theme" from Hellboy.Bruce Broughton's "Dracula theme" from The Monster SquadBruce Broughton's "Smith's theme" from Lost In Space John Powell's "Dark Phoenix theme" from X3.John Ottman's "Lex Luthor Theme" from Superman Returns.That's off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I like muntz's theme from up! I think it has an interesting development as it starts off all fun, warm and happy in 'up with titles' and then becomes darker and darker as the story progresses. 'seizing the spirit of adventure' is an interesting track where it clashes with ellie's theme I prefer the "Evil of Muntz" motif, or the piratey motif that appears in the beggining of "Seizing the Spirit of Adventure" or "Geriatric Dogfight" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russds 8 Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Is there any more examples? Time for broken bridge please? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1cfX4c4kR4At 0:54 and 1:41. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComposerEthan 8 Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Is there any more examples? Time for broken bridge please? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1cfX4c4kR4At 0:54 and 1:41.Ah thank you! I was reading in the score analysis that there this is the refrain; is there availability of the hearing the full statement of the theme (without watching the movie)? And is Syndrome's theme (from Incredibles) the motif heard in "Kronos Unveiled"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russds 8 Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Ah thank you! I was reading in the score analysis that there this is the refrain; is there availability of the hearing the full statement of the theme (without watching the movie)?Actually not that I'm aware of, even in the total film score, the theme never really comes out in full form like other villain themes (Vadar, Home Alone, Lex Luthor, etc.) It's short and sweet, and that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 How about the statement in "The Scroll/To Pankot Palace" at 01:50? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russds 8 Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 How about the statement in "The Scroll/To Pankot Palace" at 01:50?Yeah, that's true. There are some nice, big statements of that motif there also. (I really love how it builds with the percussion at 2:57 of the OST) It kind of hinges off the Palace theme though during this cue, so to me, i don't really think of it as a statement of Mola Ram's theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 my favorite statement of the theme is in the unreleased cue "The Evil Potion" it appears right before the slave children motif. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russds 8 Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 my favorite statement of the theme is in the unreleased cue "The Evil Potion" it appears right before the slave children motif.That is nice. I also just noticed there's a nice subtle statement during "Short Round Escapes" @ 0:41. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Irina's Theme from KotCS is also cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Indeed. The concert version, that is.The movie alone didn't allow it to sink its teeth in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Is there any sort of record of the concert version available anywhere? It's different from the OST, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComposerEthan 8 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I vaguely remember seeing the 2009 concert ( hollywood bowl) when I was 12. It didn't sound different to me..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 It is very different, in terms of form. And superior. It's actually a brilliantly sultry and moody piece, along the lines of Goldsmith's Basic Instinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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