Matt C 452 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Disney has released the teaser trailer for Sam Raimi's Wizard of Oz prequel Oz: The Great & Powerful in the wake of its Comic Con debut.[media=] It looks a lot better than I was expecting. I hope Danny Elfman can weave the same kind of magic he did for Alice in Wonderland three years prior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I don't think it looks good. It looks like Tim Burton Alice in Wonderland with Oz stuff. Just watch Return to Oz. Better music too, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 And Christopher Young is the Howard Shore in this relationship. Darn. I'd love to hear a fantasy score from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 Just watch Return to Oz. Better music too, I'm sure.Uh, no. The original book it was based on was so much better.And did you not even listen to Elfman's Alice score? It's much better than David Shire's Return score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Elfman's score for Alice in Wonderland is a fantastic return to the fantasy scoring of Elfman's past scores. It's awesome.As for this trailer, it doesn't look too good. And it looks pretty much like Alice in Wonderland...I'm only excited for Elfman's score. If its along the lines or magnitude of what he did for Alice, then boy am I excited!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 And did you not even listen to Elfman's Alice score? It's much better than David Shire's Return score.I'm not overly familiar with Elfman's score, but Shire's colorfully orchestrated work is one of the best of '80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Not entirely sure if Hlao-roo's being sarcastic (I hope not), but I'm with him. Shire's Oz very nearly moved me to tears; Elfman's Wonderland never came CLOSE to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Hey, this movie's got the little porcelain doll from the land of porcelain people somewhere to the south! Alright! I love the original book and correlating it to what had to be cut to make the original movie work, so this will be cool.I avoided Burton's Alice in Wonderland like the plague, but this looks worth seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 That looks awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I am happy to see Sam and Danny patched things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Doesn't look remotely interesting, to be honest. And James Franco in a lead role is no reason to get excited about.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I for one think he'll deliver a high performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 James Franco carried Rise of the Planet of the Apes well enough, I thought.I am definitely more interested in this film and have higher hopes after seeing the trailer than I thought I would. Still a bit wary, however. I'm also a huge Return To Oz fan, and that is the film this one would really need to try and beat. Speaking of Shire's score, when's that one finally going to get a reissue that is deserves, perhaps with more music, too? I know you're listening, Intrada! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Is Dorothy going to be in it. It'd be awesome if they could add in a CGI or animatronic Judy Garland for a cameo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 James Franco carried Rise of the Planet of the Apes well enough, I thought."Well enough", exactly.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Looking forward to the reunion of Raimi and Elfman!Elfman's ALICE is one of my favourites of the last DECADE, so I have high expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Alice has certainly one of the best Elfman themes ever. But I'm not so sure about the rest of it.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 Is Dorothy going to be in it. It'd be awesome if they could add in a CGI or animatronic Judy Garland for a cameo.It's a prequel, which takes place a good while before Dorothy gets to Oz.Doesn't look remotely interesting, to be honest. And James Franco in a lead role is no reason to get excited about.Well, Robert Downey Jr. and Johnny Depp were the first and second choices for the lead role, but they were "too busy". That's why James Franco was cast, since he previously collaborated with Raimi on the Spider-Man movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I'm not using spoiler tags because this is based on speculation, viewing a trailer, and a quick Wikipedia check.Is Dorothy going to be in it. It'd be awesome if they could add in a CGI or animatronic Judy Garland for a cameo.It's a prequel, which takes place a good while before Dorothy gets to Oz.Yes, but here's the thing: what is real and what is not?In the first few minutes of the trailer, Franco's character is seen flying his hot-air balloon towards a tornado, and then inside it some some distance above a flying house in the tornado. Is that Dorothy's house on her initial trip to Oz? Is there another tornado and another house that gets to Oz before Dorothy? Does the tornado take James Franco to Oz, or is it a dream portal that takes him into Dorothy's head?If that'd Dorothy's house, the problem would be that Dorothy and the man who would become the Wizard would arrive at Oz at the same time. This doesn't leave enough time for the Wizard to become the powerful household name the Munchkins mention as someone who could help Dorothy. Or is Dorothy knocked out a REALLY long time before Glinda visits her in Technicolor?I wonder if Franco's character of Oscar Diggs, the real name of the Wizard in the book, will use the stage name of Professor Marvel in his travelling circus show. Except he really couldn't because Professor Marvel was "real" and the Wizard was part of Dorothy's dream. This movie is the backstory to a dream, and so for real people to enter into it crosses the line into Inception territory. After all, Dorothy's house travels to Oz, but when she uses the ruby slippers to go home wake up, the house actually never left Kansas, making the moment she thought the house took flight the moment she passed out in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Doesn't look remotely interesting, to be honest. And James Franco in a lead role is no reason to get excited about.KarolThis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 This will be better than Alice In Wonderland for some very simple reasons: James Franco, Mila Kunis, Rachel Weisz, Michelle Williams, and Zach Braff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 This will be better than Alice In Wonderland for some very simple reasons: James Franco, Mila Kunis, Rachel Weisz, Michelle Williams, and Zach Braff.Well Johnny Depp is a great actor, and he was in Alice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 This will be better than Alice In Wonderland for some very simple reasons: James Franco, Mila Kunis, Rachel Weisz, Michelle Williams, and Zach Braff.Well Johnny Depp is a great actor, and he was in Alice.As was Helene Bonham Carter. Good actors don't guarantee good films... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Yes, Johnny Depp was awful in that terrible Alice movie. It's unfortunate because he could potentially have been awesome in the role.I like James Franco, but he's typically nothing special in more mainstream Hollywood flicks. You know? Feels like he's just collecting paychecks and then going off to spend the money on some personal project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Good actors don't guarantee good films...George didn't get the memo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 This will be better than Alice In Wonderland for some very simple reasons: James Franco, Mila Kunis, Rachel Weisz, Michelle Williams, and Zach Braff.Well Johnny Depp is a great actor, and he was in Alice.Johnny Depp under the direction of Tim Burton is not a great actor. At least not anymore. Helena Bonham Carter's roles in Burton's films aren't anything special either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 You didn't like his performance in Sweeney Todd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I think I only saw it once in the theater. I remember liking it, and would consider it an exception. Charlie And The Chocolate Factory, Alice In Wonderland, and Dark Shadows are below his standards, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyy38 21 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Johnny Depp, like Tom Cruise, has become a Legend in his own *mind*..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 And Christopher Young is the Howard Shore in this relationship. Darn. I'd love to hear a fantasy score from him.Ditto. Drag Me To Hell is one of my favourite scores of the 2000s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I thought everything about Alice In Wonderland -- including Elfman's music -- was abysmal. Therefore, I'm not too thrilled to see his name attached to this Oz movie. Where's Desplat when you need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Johnny Depp under the direction of Tim Burton is not a great actor. At least not anymore. You think Burton is killing Depp's performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Let's not forget, Burton's cinema is exaggerated to achieve a certain effect. Don't expect low-key, subtle and subdued performances a la Donnie Brasco. In a way, Burton is a burlesque drama queen.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Fassbender would feel all wrong in a Burton film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Fassbender is probably Scott's big buddy now. (sorry, Russell, it's over)Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 If you're not one of Scott's , you're little people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 I thought everything about Alice In Wonderland -- including Elfman's music -- was abysmal. Therefore, I'm not too thrilled to see his name attached to this Oz movie.Now you have no credibility. I'm sorry, but if you like Elfman's work -- AIW was a glorious return to his late 1980s/early 1990s scoring. Magnificent.I've listened to the Shire music for Return to Oz -- and there's some appealing bits (mainly those violin solos), it's a lot darker and somber than I expected. It's beautiful, but I prefer Elfman's more fantastical approach. Where's Desplat when you need him?His heart belongs to Wes Anderson and Jacques Audiard now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I like Alice's Theme, but that's it. I definitely wouldn't call it a return to his classic sound. Iris on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Iris wasn't a return to his original sound, but it was still awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I wrote a little review about when I first got the CD, don't remember what I exactly said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 Elfman says his Oz score will be a big, narrative score to fit the "big, blustery old-fashioned feel" to the movie:[...] Already his eighth reteaming with Sam Raimi, Oz: The Great And Powerful, sounds like the type of epic, á la Lawrence of Arabia, that voters crave.“The movie has this big, blustery old-fashioned feel, and I wanted to give it a big, effective, narrative score,” Elfman says. “It’s huge—105 minutes of music.”And no matter what road Elfman embarks on musically with a director, it always comes back to Herrmann. “If anything, I’ll evoke more Herrmann-esque sounds inOz: The Great And Powerful than I did in Hitchcock,” says Elfman. “At times I can’t help it, I have to try not to be Herrmann-esque because his music is so much a part of my musical DNA. For that is from whence I sprung.”Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheCity 140 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 This score is being recorded starting today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Tell us how it sounds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieC 13 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I am really looking forward to this project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted December 13, 2012 Author Share Posted December 13, 2012 This score is being recorded starting today.Is the movie close to being finished? Or is CGI still being finalized throughout scoring and final dubbing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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