Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I think you could make a better argument that Alien3 is an AIDS allegory. But Aliens? In 1986? AIDS was just beginning to enter the public consciousness at the time. I don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 56 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Thanks for that @Nick Parker. Just a minute. Nick Parker? The JWfan poster? That's more apt, because that's all I ever was...and that's all I'll ever be. .... 41 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: I think you could make a better argument that Alien3 is an AIDS allegory. But Aliens? In 1986? It was just beginning to enter the public consciousness at the time. I don't see it. Same, and even 3 is a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 12 hours ago, Nick Parker said: Same, and even 3 is a stretch. I agree, I just think you can make more of a plausible argument for it. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 46 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: I agree, I just think you can make more of a plausible argument for it. Oh for sure. It doesn't compare to AVP:R, though, because no viewer's mind could be protected enough from that movie's diseased, penetrating violations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 17 hours ago, Nick Parker said: Oh for sure. It doesn't compare to AVP:R, though, because no viewer's mind could be protected enough from that movie's diseased, penetrating violations. Guess I'm not human then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, May the Force be with You said: Guess I'm not human then You’re more machine now than man. Twisted and evil. Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: You’re more machine now than man. Twisted and evil. Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Ooh! TESB, black and chrome edition. It could work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 55 minutes ago, May the Force be with You said: Guess I'm not human then You're a robot! You're a goddamn robot! Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 56 minutes ago, May the Force be with You said: Guess I'm not human then Last word. I...can't lie to you, about your chances, but...you have my sympathies Raiders of the SoundtrArk and Nick1Ø66 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: You're a robot! You're a goddamn robot! Well you have my sympathies Just now, Naïve Old Fart said: Last word. I...can't lie to you, about your chances, but...you have my sympathies Damn you submit quicker than I did Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Just watched " Pitch Meeting" for this. Made me realize this.turkey was far, far worse than I remembered. "Remember when a.giant object is bearing down on you, keep running in.a straight line!"😝😜😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 You learn more from The Drunk. GerateWohl, bruce marshall and Evanus 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 42 minutes ago, AC1 said: You learn more from The Drunk. Love it- " Trying to find logic in this film is like trying to find to find a gender studies major who weighs less than 300 pounds" If only Thor had refrained from praising these films.... They would have been dismissed and forgotten. But NOOOOOOOOOO! He had to call them masterpieces! 😠 A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Here is a book that seriously and INTELLIGENTLY explores our origins and possible creation by alien species. Check it out# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 This is a salty thread. To add some more salt: I've seen parts of Alien (will watch the whole thing at some point), all of Aliens, and parts of the 90s sequels. I'm sorry to say I have no real interest in watching anything that came after Aliens front to back. The franchise should have ended at Aliens, that's all the ending you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,441 Posted May 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2021 41 minutes ago, SteveMc said: The franchise should have ended at Aliens, that's all the ending you need. Also aplies to the Terminator franchise, which should've ended on T2. Chen G., SteveMc and Nick1Ø66 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 I thought Aliens was at its best the first time I watched it in the theatre. However, Alien and Blade Runner have a different side to them, I can watch them from a different perspective for they transcend the theme park ride. 10 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Also aplies to the Terminator franchise, which should've ended on T2. To be honest, I enjoy T2 more than I do Aliens. I think it's Cameron's most accomplished movie. It's entirely possible that the overall look of the film has something to do with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Evanus 217 Posted May 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2021 On 5/27/2021 at 9:44 AM, AC1 said: You learn more from The Drunk. Ah yes, Prometheus killed the franchise, let's just ignore Alien 3, Resurrection or AVP 1 and 2. Typical youtube rubbish. SteveMc, Oswin Pond and Chen G. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Of course the franchise was already in deep trouble but there was hope that Ridley's return to the universe would be a step in the right direction again. Turns out it wasn't, which he discusses in the video. That's why the drunk deems the franchise dead. Hope this helps ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 1 hour ago, AC1 said: there was hope that Ridley's return to the universe would be a step in the right direction again. As is always the case with Ridley Scott, he really is at the mercy of the script. A bad script will invariably make for a bad film, no matter how inspired Sir Ridley's mise-en-scene may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, Chen G. said: As is always the case with Ridley Scott, he really is at the mercy of the script. A bad script will invariably make for a bad film, no matter how inspired Sir Ridley's mise-en-scene may be. That’s the case with most directors though. And Scott has enough clout to pick the films he’s involved with and the screenwriters. If he works on project that has a bad script (and he’s had his share) that’s on him. SteveMc and A24 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: That’s the case with most directors though. Writer/directors are very fashionable now. Directors who don't write (like Scott or Spielberg) have become the exception to the rule. And, for some reason, Scott has a habit of choosing at least a couple of shitty screenplays against any one good screenplay he directs. I've yet to see a bad Ridley Scott film where the problem was anywhere BUT the script. Under his baton, the acting and production design are always top notch, and his directing inspired. But when the script is a Prometheus or Legend of Darkness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,365 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, Chen G. said: I've yet to see a bad Ridley Scott film where the problem was anywhere BUT the script. Under his baton, the acting and production design are always top notch, and his directing inspired. But when the script is a Prometheus or Legend of Darkness... Have you seen White Squal? And I think, the issue with Hannibal was not necessarily the original script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 2 hours ago, AC1 said: Of course the franchise was already in deep trouble but there was hope that Ridley's return to the universe would be a step in the right direction again. Turns out it wasn't, which he discusses in the video. That's why the drunk deems the franchise dead. Hope this helps ... It’s a shame his ego killed Blomkamp’s sequel to Aliens that had Weaver and Paxton on board. Nick1Ø66 and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Chen G. said: And, for some reason, Scott has a habit of choosing at least a couple of shitty screenplays against any one good screenplay he directs. Maybe he just likes bad screenplays. Talented people can have bad taste too, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 9 hours ago, Chen G. said: Under his baton, the acting and production design are always top notch, and his directing inspired. I don't see that. I'm never impressed with his direction or mise-en-scène anymore. It's all very by the numbers to me. Instead of 'inspiring', I see assemby line work. I wish he would break free from that. He won't though ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oswin Pond 58 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 On 30/05/2021 at 3:48 PM, Koray Savas said: It’s a shame his ego killed Blomkamp’s sequel to Aliens that had Weaver and Paxton on board. Honestly good. Blomkamp's ego was even bigger, the dude was literally gonna decanonize two movies. Evanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 On 18/9/2022 at 4:18 PM, Oswin Pond said: Honestly good. Blomkamp's ego was even bigger, the dude was literally gonna decanonize two movies. So? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oswin Pond 58 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: So? So I'm glad his movie got canned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 It’s not like those films would be erased from history. 3 and Resurrection are nothing special anyway. It’s a trend I like and wish got to happen to the Alien franchise. Halloween did it successfully. Terminator did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 On 30/05/2021 at 8:07 PM, GerateWohl said: Have you seen White Squall? I like WHITE SQUALL. 8 hours ago, Koray Savas said: 3 and Resurrection are nothing special anyway. 3 is. I love ALIEN ³. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 I'm a Resurrection stan, the 3rd best Alien movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I'm a Resurrection stan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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