gkgyver 1,645 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 In this case, I'm talking about Williams' action music past 1990.I wouldn't exactly call Escape, Chase, Goodbye action music.The first half is nothing but. Of the finest prime fillet variety.You may find it blasphemy, but I usually long for this portion to end to get to the good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 Nah, you're entitled to your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Not if it's a stupid opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I agree, infact, I (almost) Iong for the end to end! (I am talking about the part inbetween the flying theme, and the fanfare's in the ending) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I never thought of LOTR action music as anything special.KarolIt isn't, outside of LotR. As part of these rich cinematic fables though it just works wonderfully well. Or what Steef said.Yet the scores are masterpieces?Everything could be a masterpiece if you don't compare it to anything else. Odd to see you not making sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 There's stuff to like in that period, but personally, LotR definitely means more to me.Although RotK certainly has a lot of filler, in the sense that I don't think music was needed for some scenes, and the amount Shore was composing per day by the end of the process shows a bit.I really don't think so.Return of the King is littered with highlights of the trilogy. Given how brilliant a score Howard Shore has written despite the enormous pressure of writing up to five minutes a day, the question to ask is how freaking genius the score would have been, had he not had that pressure.Anyway, this is for the musicians here. I have been thinking how much you can agree with Howard Shore's statement that orchestration is not really about color, but rather range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Oh I didn't know he had to write under pressure due to the schedules , that is never nice.I've always thought orchestration is more about colors... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Well, he certainly did a lot of work during the entire year of 2003, but at the end, the weeks before deadline, with the constant editing changes, he did up to five minutes of writing and orchestrating a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 The film was only finished the day before the reels had to be sent out. Imagine the tons of rewrites and new scenes he had to write. Having have to go through that stress and still produce one of the greatest scores of all time (and my personal favourite of the trilogy) is darn impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 To be honest, I like the first one the most but I have to admire his craftsmanship after hearing this.In the end of the day I might like the guy.But his conducting looks awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I personally sort of like rigid conducting style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Well you don't have to play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,680 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 There's stuff to like in that period, but personally, LotR definitely means more to me.Although RotK certainly has a lot of filler, in the sense that I don't think music was needed for some scenes, and the amount Shore was composing per day by the end of the process shows a bit.I really don't think so.Return of the King is littered with highlights of the trilogy. Given how brilliant a score Howard Shore has written despite the enormous pressure of writing up to five minutes a day, the question to ask is how freaking genius the score would have been, had he not had that pressure.Anyway, this is for the musicians here. I have been thinking how much you can agree with Howard Shore's statement that orchestration is not really about color, but rather range.Oh it absolutely has some trilogy highlights, yes.I'm saying that it's inevitable that a work on that scale will have some less interesting moments, and most of those for me are in the third score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 I've always thought orchestration is more about colors...Oh, admit it: if Shore had said that orchestration is more about colors, you would have said you think it is more about range! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 I never thought of LOTR action music as anything special.KarolIt isn't, outside of LotR. As part of these rich cinematic fables though it just works wonderfully well. Or what Steef said.Yet the scores are masterpieces?Everything could be a masterpiece if you don't compare it to anything else. Odd to see you not making sense.Surely you have an an appreciation for a flawed masterpiece somewhere yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 I've always thought orchestration is more about colors...Oh, admit it: if Shore had said that orchestration is more about colors, you would have said you think it is more about range!Nope.I'm actually not sure what "range" means here. So I looked dictionary, it gave 27 meanings in finish...If it does mean the range of the instruments, how they are written isn't that also about colors? Range=Dynamics?Sorry, this may sound I'm stupid but hey, that's what I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 To be honest, I like the first one the most but I have to admire his craftsmanship after hearing this.In the end of the day I might like the guy.But his conducting looks awful. Yup. He jumps from beat to beat without connection. It must make tempo very difficult to feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Sorry, this may sound I'm stupid but hey, that's what I am.And ugly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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