BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 The few opening chords sound the same to my ears but not the whole passage. But you could be on to something there.I am actually quite happy that the Fate of the Ring doesn't appear in Moon Runes as it would have made very little dramatic or contextual sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Some things, that should have not been forgotten...were/where/we're lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 The few opening chords sound the same to my ears but not the whole passage. But you could be on to something there.Of course, it's not similar to the whole passage, but there are troubling similarities... The thing is, Doug doesn't want us to know truth. He's hiding something from us. Something tells me we are about to uncover a dark, long-forgotten musical secret...Gandalf originally had 14 different themes in the Hobbit!!! So this is what we were never meant to know!And every Dwarf had a theme but PJ told Shore to cut them down. Harrumph! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 there are 21 themes plus the Misty Mountains song and theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Here follows the account of Howard Shore on the last days of recording of the Hobbit:We cannot get out. We cannot get out. They have taken the main hall of the studio and Second Recording Stage. Sam Okell and Peter Cobbin and Simon Rhodes fell there bravely while the rest retr [...] Abbey Road. We still ho[...]g ... but hope u[...]n[...]Rhodes’ party went five days ago but today only four returned. The pool is up to the wall at west side door. The Watcher in the Lobby took the assistant recording engineer-we cannot get out. The end comes soon. We hear drums, drums in the deep.PJ is coming...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Kurlander? I thought he had nothing to do with AUJ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Dramatic license my boy, dramatic license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 All good story's deserve embellishment...but not that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 KK and Smeltington 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Perhaps we have demonized PJ a tad too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 What are you talking about, Shore is the Balrog!BTW I think I hear and edit in Riddles in the Dark between 0:23 to 0:25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 the strings seem to skip when I hear it (and before you ask, no, its not a skip from scratches or a bad rip)Its most noticable in the left channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I don't want to go too deep into unchartered and unholy territory, but what if PJ and Shore did have some creative differences, and Shore just followed his lead in the end just because he likes to do these films very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Like JW did on the Prequels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 JW stopped caring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Yeah, he just took the money! The bearded whore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Always nice to see a discussion take such a pleasant turn gentlemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Jason did warn you what would happen if you banned me right, before you decided to take office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 When Incanus dug too greedily and too deep, in the darkness of JWFan hell, he realized what he just awoke... shadow and flame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 "Shadow wreathed in flame"get it right!Just an interesting little titbit about what almost made the Hobbit album:FaleelCould "The Valley of Imladris" be released as iTunes single? It almost made the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Don't get me started on Picking Pockets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 "Shadow wreathed in flame"get it right!Just an interesting little titbit about what almost made the Hobbit album:FaleelCould "The Valley of Imladris" be released as iTunes single? It almost made the album.You're referencing the wrong scene Btw, does this mean Doug has officially come out of hiding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I don't know.The silence around this score on behalf of the composer and people involved is getting suspicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I refrence the wrong scene? we are not quoting Saruman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 We are, but you quoted Saruman describing the Eye of Sauron, I was quoting him describing the Balrog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Why are people so nervous? The next film won't come out for three quarters of a year, everyone is busy. Shore at this point probably doesn't have a full cut of the film to work with....I don't remember much news coming from the score front in the spring after FOTR was released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I am sure Shore is busy scoring the extended cut of the Unexpected Journey at the moment and will probably already be working on the DoS as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 There is no real reason for the film makers to start releasing any news about the next score or the extended cut. All of that is months away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 This Shore fellow is the guy who did some orchestrations for Enya when she did her score for FOTR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Yes, he was a part of the Blues Brothers band I believe in the 70's. I wonder if this means DOS will have some more modernistic, influences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gkgyver 1,645 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Oh dear .... lord!Is that the man who wrote The Breaking Of The Fellowship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I'm not actually shore it is him! SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I wouldn't look too much into Doug being sworn to secrecy about the scores. Warner seem to be keeping a very tight ship over any kind of spoilers in relation to these films. Have you seen what they've done with the edited version of the Desolation of Smaug sneak peek? They've removed most of the good stuff at the end, including the scene with Gandalf in the High Fells, which is kind of ridiculous.What do realistically expect at this stage with regard information about the scores? The situation has obviously put us on edge but unless Shore is leaving the project it's unlikely they're going to put out a statement about it. I'm guessing Doug's statement on his blog around Christmas is about the best we'll get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Doug has been pretty tight lipped about the whole score on his blog for the most part. I guess he is still discovering the music himself and busy with other projects. Even though collaborating with Shore now from the beginning I assume it is not like he has had any great advance look on the material and has to do research on it. Also the fact that they can't legally say much might affect the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Wow, some sensible comments.....Any ideas what road they will take for the end title song for DOS?I expect a love song for Tauriel.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I honestly have no idea what will they do for the next end credits song or whom they will invite to write/perform it. It probably will be a strange love song about forbidden relationships between races, Dwarf and Elf... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Bring back Enya! ALL IS FORGIVEN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 There is also the somewhat cynical view that Doug has a book to sell at some point down the line, so probably doesn't want to give too much away at this early stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Not cynical, very realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 But I remember that we had endlessly compelling discussions with Doug through the years when the LotR movies were coming out and long after and The Music of Lord of the Rings Films was still a revelation when it came out. I do not think we could run out of things to discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Well remember that the idea of the book really came long after the films. This time it's already being considered before hand.Incanus, you can't go back...ultimately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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