Brónach 1,302 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I don't know who that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Chaac, there was never any chance of Milos Forman coming out of retirement for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brónach 1,302 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Chaac, there was never any chance of Milos Forman coming out of retirement for this.Oh I haven't seen any of his films. I've been recommended Cuckoo and Man on the Moon and Amadeus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,684 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Henry Jackman for the music?God I hope not.Even if I don't 'get' Williams' approach, I'd still like someone who will give us a traditional, thematic score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brónach 1,302 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 What Williams-like, thematic score by Henry Jackman should I listen to to make up up my mind?And... how can we be sure that Disney won't interfere in the composer choice anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Henry Jackman for the music?God I hope not.Even if I don't 'get' Williams' approach, I'd still like someone who will give us a traditional, thematic score.Obviously you haven't seen or heard Kick-Ass His symphonic hero theme kicked ass. Ask KM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Some of his music for Wreck it Ralph was pretty good. Nothing jumped out and screamed Star Wars, but it wasn't exactly the movie for that anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Neither did "None but the Brave." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 If we're going with RCP guys, I of course nominate John Powell or Harry Gregson-Williams. I like their symphonic style a lot better than Jackman's -although Henry is quite a newcomer in the industry, we haven't heard everything he has to say.If he respects Williams enough, I wouldn't mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 605 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 The Superman-parody-ish theme from Kick-Ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I think this cue from the opening of the movie best demonstrates Jackman's grasp of stirring harmony (in the vein of Williams): It's such a frustrating score in that the theme is never once given full service, no opportunity to stretch its legs; but word is Jackman has promised off record to work on that for the sequel, greatly encouraged by the feedback he he's had about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarbas 1 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Ilan Eshkeri would be a great choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Man! Don't you remember what Koko told us many times?? A traditional, thematic score was exactly what Jackman wanted to do on X-Men: FIrst Class, but it was Vaughn who asked him to go all "synth-ish" (But I think Vaughn will ask him a traditional score if he does direct Episode VII).Please, don't make Koko post about that again!I was going to but you said it for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Ah, ok. I love the Kick-Ass score but hate X-Men first Class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I'm not sure the Kick-Ass score makes Hnery Jackman more suited for the job that countless others. As much as I've listened to it over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 In Jackman's interview, he described playing Vaughn the score for First Class for the first time and him saying, "That! I like that. Can you expand upon that part more?" and Jackman went, "The fucking bass line?!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I'll admit I like that part and I can see where Vaughn might have been coming from. The use of it in the film is quite intense and gave me chills in the film (probably due to its sheer simplicity.) Vaughn uses it like if he was plastering music over a cross between James Bond and Jaws. But if that was Jackman's reaction I'm all the more curious about what he had in mind. Which might probably have been much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Well, in the Kick Ass director's video commentary he often commented in the score, saying he wanted it to sound JWesque in a few places Kick Ass is one of my favorite recent movies,so I'd love Matthew Vaughn to do Star Wars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Is it possible this Matthew Vaughn talk is actually serious? I mean, I liked some scenes and directing from Kick-Ass and First Class. It's just that I don't find either of them to be really good. Mostly due to script issues. Should I see Layer Cake?Honestly after the disaster of the last trilogy most options could produce something better, but while we're at it, I wouldn't settle with just "it's more entertaining than the last trilogy." They should have more ambition. And that they almost anhihilated Star Wars shouldn't make it okay that one might just keep screwing up many amazing possibilities within the SW universe.Looking at the possible choices so far from the Empire SW directors page, the only options I would might actually trust are Vaughn and Del Toro. And Del Toro has other stuff to do (I hope... Saturn and the End of the Days, At the Mountains of Madness, finishing Pacific Rim, Frankenstein, 3993...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Also Vaughn kept referring to Star Wars scenes and characters in his video commentary for Kick-Ass, so he must really be after the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I would hope that if it ever happened they would let him go bold with the story and the universe, instead of retreading too much.I don't really want to see Han or Leia or their kids for that matter. That reeks too much of sequelitis for me. I would like it more new.But if the script is being made, shouldn't they have the director already onboard to oversee what film is he doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I think they could work in in Han and Leia, but not as the main characters. Maybe the Jedi Masters or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I'm afraid I'm going to have to stand such a thing. Personally I'm more for a new independent thing in the same universe. A new episode I (not quality wise), that you could see without the previous ones. An Episode VII? No thanks! Secuelitis, secuelitis! This is probably because I'm not a fan of ROTJ. We'll see what happens.I am aware we migth as well end up with a direct sequel to the same old story featuring the same characters and their descendants and their cousins and their in-laws and a Empire not entirely defeated and with far too much of George Lucas shadow over it. Ugh. Maybe with the Jedi again as the boring prequel kind of organized-yet-stupid monk order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I think they could work in in Han and Leia, but not as the main characters. Maybe the Jedi Masters or somethingSeeing Luke use his full power as a Jedi Master is probably the thing I look most forward to.I would like for it to feature Luke, but with Han and Leia as more of supporting roles. Unless they take Leia the EU route and make here a Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I would like it to feature Luke and absolutely no other character or storyline from the previous films.I'm fucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I would like it to feature Luke and absolutely no other character or storyline from the previous films.I'm fucked.It's possible though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Mark Hamill hasn't done much acting since 1983 though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 No shit.That sucked, by the way. I liked the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Well, lets hope none of them are as rusty as Karen Allen in KotCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Well, lets hope none of them are as rusty as Karen Allen in KotCSRusty? She looked old and tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Well,that's how Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher look now toowell less so Harrison because were used to seeing him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 We could have another actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Well,that's how Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher look now toowell less so Harrison because were used to seeing himIt would be easier for Mark to pull off as a wisened jedi master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Mark Hamill hasn't done much acting since 1983 thoughHe was in that episode of Amazing Stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 After actually thinking on it, it seems to me that Vaughn could be more suited for Star Wars than most who have done Star Wars. And it also seems to me among his roster of actors that he could pick again there are exxtremely interesting names to have in a SW film. Probably I should worry more about Disney/Lucasfilm themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I'd approve of a Vaughn/Jackman collaboration, but I'd prefer a Bird/Giacchino one. I really don't care about Star Wars to be that interested either way. I saw Star Trek and I'll see Star Trek Into Darkness because of Abrams. Never seen a single film or episode other than that. If good filmmakers get behind Episode VII, I'll see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 That can happen! Disney has Bird and Gia in good consideration and they surely would like to do many films under any excuse. With some luck, seeing it as an easy cash cow, they might even let the artists more loose than usual. Bird has said he isn't doing SW, he's doing something else, but afterwards, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Giacchino looks a possible choice, and I think he would be a great a choice, but a part of me wants another composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarbas 1 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 There is many composers that could make the score, but it will be very sad watch to the Episode VII with Luke, Leia, Han and not hear a original score by Williams.And worse, could imagine a Hans Zimmer score? Which would not be difficult if Gore Verbinski was chosen by Disney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Not only do I think it's unlikely that Disney would ask Verbinski, I'm fairly certain he would say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymenard 54 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 It's got to be Giacchino. Think a little about it, then understand that this man... was made... for the job. It's the way his career has been shaped up to become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Well,that's how Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher look now toowell less so Harrison because were used to seeing himThat's what the world needs, a Star Wars version of Crystal Skull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Han Solo isn't the kind of character that should've even survived into his 60's or 70's like Harrison Ford. He would have perished in a blaze of glory or been finally taken out by vengeful bounty hunters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 True, but then he met Luke Skywalker, a guardian angel who constantly saves his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 That could actually be an interesting dynamic. If we're talking non-Williams composers, Edward Shearmur seems like he'd have the chops for it. Sky Captain certainly had the lushness that a lot of other composers, though good, don't tend to demonstrate. Of course the fact that it's Star Wars could be the wild card with virtually anyone, whether Kennedy takes a strong enough hand with the sound of the score, or if a director really tunes in and wants the score to really sound like Star Wars, trends and modernity be damned. If Giacchino does score it, though, can we please, please, PLEASE get someone like Botnick or Steiner to record it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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