Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I think he's changed his tune on that, at least somewhat. Most of his quotes related to that kind of thing are from around Pulp Fiction's release, but since then he's commissioned original music for both Kill Bill and Django Unchained, and apparently tried to get Ennio Morricone to compose the score for Inglourious Basterds.QT has more or less maintained, kinda selfishly, that using an original composer would give someone else too much power to affect his movie. He likes to have complete control over it all, and I'd say it's been working for him.The original music commissioned for Kill Bill is pretty much nothing. The RZA did the Ode To Oren Ishi for Vol. 1, and Robert Rodriguez wrote Malaguena Salerosa for Vol. 2. Two songs, not even score. The latter pretty much just being a kind jester of friendship. He wanted Morricone for Inglourious Basterds but he was already working on a project in Italy and the film's release date would had to have been pushed back. QT wanted to wait, Harvey Weinstein didn't.Django Unchained is really his first film where there is a lot of different stuff going on musically. I think there were 4 songs written for it, not including Morricone's, but again there is no original score. I also think this, as great as it is, is most likely his worst film. Editing has always been one of the strongest aspects of any Tarantino movie, and without Sally Menke this one was a bit messy. I think the "without coherence" bit that Morricone was saying is actually spot on for this film, and that it stems from that messy editing.I would trust The Hollywood Reporter, but to my knowledge Morricone wasn't anywhere near Kill Bill. Don't know where they got that from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Quintin's scattebrained, ADHD approach needs an editor who understands clarity and clear narrative lines. Menke knew how to do that. Who cut Django? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Morricone should have been made Pope instead the new guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,278 Posted March 16, 2013 Author Share Posted March 16, 2013 I would trust The Hollywood Reporter, but to my knowledge Morricone wasn't anywhere near Kill Bill. Don't know where they got that from.Morricone wasn't, but his music was. I think whoever wrote that article is simply confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Morricone should have been made Pope instead the new guy.His regnal name will be "Pope Bernard Jerry I" in honor of his predecessors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHouseholdCat 4 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Absolutely loving it, but then again I'm overly familiar with the scores QT used here. I like how he used recordings off his own LPs rather than clean masters, his reason in the liner notes being he wants us to experience the music as he first did. I also liked that. It enhanced the songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I would trust The Hollywood Reporter, but to my knowledge Morricone wasn't anywhere near Kill Bill. Don't know where they got that from. Morricone wasn't, but his music was. I think whoever wrote that article is simply confused.Which throws up the question how much of what it claims is actually accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TownerFan 4,983 Posted March 19, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2013 I'm resorting this up because I think all this useless and stupid controversy needs clarifications. I already wrote this on the FSM board, but I guess repetita juvant:First of all, let's get down to facts: the day after this stupid controversy exploded (keep in mind it was created and agitated by incorrect Italian news agency reports and then reprised by international agencies), Morricone released an official press statement to correct and clarify what he said. Here's a translation:"What I read about my statements on Quentin Tarantino is a partial writing of my thoughts which has deprived the true meaning of what I said, isolating a part from the rest. In this way my statement sounds shocking, penalizing me and bothers me a lot."I have a great respect for Tarantino, as I have stated several times, I am glad he chooses my music, a sign of artistic brotherhood and I am happy to have met him in Rome recently. In my opinion, the fact that Tarantino chooses different pieces of music from a work in a film makes the pieces not to be always consistent with the entire work."The risk for me, when I compose, is not to be consistent with the film work and my desire is that the director accepts my consistency..."Regarding Django, the thing is that I cannot see too much blood in a movie due to my character, is how I feel and impress me especially with a film that is made very well and where the blood is well shot. But this has nothing to do with my respect for that Tarantino which remains great."http://bit.ly/YnteFzI think this clarifies everything. The fact he isn't comfortable with a movie showing so much blood and carnage maybe sounds ridiculous to some fellows here considering he scored A LOT of violent and disturbing films over his long career. But we should take into account that he's now 85 years-old and probably his taste in movies has changed.Also, everyone who knows and follows Morricone since a long time knows very well that the core matter about consistency and coherence of film composition has ALWAYS been one of his strongest aesthetic flags, which he sometimes defended to the point of sounding a bit rude. He always believed in film music as something that needs artistic integrity and he spoke against the usage of "preexisting tracks-as-film-score" many times, especially when this approach is in conflict with an original score. He had strong discussions with Terrence Malick during DAYS OF HEAVEN and he had the guts to tell him: "Terry, you HAVE TO choose!" (this is a story he told during a public conference I attended). But he always acknowledged the FREEDOM of the director to choose whatever approach is right for the movie (in fact, he spoke highly several times about Kubrick's use of music in his movies and it looks like he's fine with Tarantino's as well). But he pertains to a generation/category of film composers (like Williams and Goldsmith) who STRONGLY believe in the creation of original music suited and tailored to the film's needs, with the utmost respect of the film itself. As he many times stated, the primary task of the film composer is TO SERVE the film. In this sense, I find perfectly understandable he maybe doesn't see eye-to-eye with some of Tarantino's musical choices. Nevertheless, he respects and admires him.What I found quite insulting in all this useless controversy is the fact that most of the people who commented it around the internet quickly divided into fanboy factions (be it Tarantino's camp or Morricone's camp), following this nowadays common internet behavior of taking a stance over every single matter to the point of catfighting over it. And this happened also with film music lovers, who should probably be more aware than others that what Morricone said is something that's part of the job of the film composer (i.e. discussing and even dissenting with the director, finding the right approach for the movie, etc.). Instead, many score nerds popped up and started to lambast Morricone, depicting him as an old fart who is out of touch with contemporary film aesthetics.Yesterday I did a piece about this for the website I write for. It's written in Italian, but maybe with an automated translator you'll get what is my feeling over all this:http://bit.ly/114TAii Brónach, Marian Schedenig, Once and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Thank you for giving us the opportunity of looking beyond the shouty headlines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,416 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 this is in BOTH movies, specifically at the part in Unchained when Django saves the girl from being whipped.:46-:58 sounds like Return of the King. had to post this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 So the reason Will Smith turned down the role of Django was that it wasn't "the lead role". Seriously, now? I think he has become a bit egotistical.http://movies.yahoo.com/news/smith-explains-turning-down-django-unchained-lead-172610141.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I thought it was because he was doing Men In Black III at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Well, Django is the weakest character from the film, so I'm not really that surprised he had some trouble casting it. It's not that he's a bad character precisely, but the rest of them are so damn good that Django, having to be the straight man, ends up looking weak.I kinda had that trouble with him that I could never connect with the person or his quest until he escapes from the Australian guys... Kinda of a shame really, but it's not easy writing characters like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 So the reason Will Smith turned down the role of Django was that it wasn't "the lead role". Seriously, now? I think he has become a bit egotistical.http://movies.yahoo.com/news/smith-explains-turning-down-django-unchained-lead-172610141.htmlJust now getting that feeling. He's been heading that way for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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