A24 4,331 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 HBO isn't Disney so boobs and violence will reign! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,432 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 What I want to see: Wonder Woman's boobs. What Snyder will actually show: Superman's and Batman's dick. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 People want the AVENGERS. Nobody likes TJL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I like Justice League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Would be nice to see Wonder Woman in the nuddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I dunno, it's more appealing if you leave something to the imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Imag-a-wat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 You know, Imagination. They had a few hits in the '80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 11/23/2020 at 6:50 AM, AC1 said: Oh, apparently this second trailer was released 5 days ago: I'm probably misremembering the version I saw in the theatres, but this one looks like exactly like the same crap I watched that day TSMefford and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 11/24/2020 at 7:28 AM, AC1 said: Rumor: If The Snyder Cut is successful (and we know it will be), then HBO is looking for a Justice League trilogy. https://www.geekositymag.com/post/scoop-hbo-max-wants-a-justice-league-trilogy I know Netflix has radically changed the game in terms of streaming movies. But apart from getting new subscribers, how can streamers like Netflix, Disney+ and HBO Max make money on pricey nine figure movies? While they can swallow the costs of moving titles during a pandemic, how can they sustain that after moviegoing resumes in earnest? Snyder's JL cut would have to get rave reviews and unprecedented streaming numbers to warrant spending money on two HBO Max exclusive sequels. And even then WarnerMedia would aim for a theatrical release first to recoup the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Pay per view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 5 hours ago, Matt C said: I know Netflix has radically changed the game in terms of streaming movies. But apart from getting new subscribers, how can streamers like Netflix, Disney+ and HBO Max make money on pricey nine figure movies? While they can swallow the costs of moving titles during a pandemic, how can they sustain that after moviegoing resumes in earnest? Snyder's JL cut would have to get rave reviews and unprecedented streaming numbers to warrant spending money on two HBO Max exclusive sequels. And even then WarnerMedia would aim for a theatrical release first to recoup the money. By raising subscription prices? Netflix seems to be rather good at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 22 hours ago, AC1 said: By raising subscription prices? Netflix seems to be rather good at that. I don't think doing nine figure movies is sustainable in the long run for streaming services. And there's only so much they can increase monthly pricing before people cancel. Netflix, Disney+ and HBO Max might do the occasional splashy big budget film rollout -- but the bread & butter are their original series. Folks are subscribed to D+ for shows like "The Mandalorian" and their MCU limited series like "Loki" and "WandaVision." People crave social gatherings and when they can congregate safely after the pandemic, moviegoing is going to ramp back up. There's going to be pent-up demand for theatrical releases. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,432 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Since we won't have an Avengers-level movie for the next years, I wonder which will be the movie that will bring people back to the theaters. No Time to Die? Black Widow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Edmilson said: Since we won't have an Avengers-level movie for the next years, I wonder which will be the movie that will bring people back to the theaters. No Time to Die? Black Widow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,432 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 As long as WB doesn't release it on streaming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 6 hours ago, Edmilson said: ..., I wonder which will be the movie that will bring people back to the theaters. ....Black Widow? Only if Johansson does another nude scene! Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 6 hours ago, Edmilson said: As long as WB doesn't release it on streaming... Internet video tape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,362 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 On 11/27/2020 at 9:18 PM, Matt C said: I don't think doing nine figure movies is sustainable in the long run for streaming services. And there's only so much they can increase monthly pricing before people cancel. Netflix, Disney+ and HBO Max might do the occasional splashy big budget film rollout -- but the bread & butter are their original series. Folks are subscribed to D+ for shows like "The Mandalorian" and their MCU limited series like "Loki" and "WandaVision." Yup. I wonder if the $200-300M budget blockbuster is not finally past its prime generally. Not only do most of those films tell silly, forgettable stories, but they usually only make 3 to 5 times their budget at the box office if they hit it big. If I were a studio exec, I feel I’d be more interested in low to mid-budget films that have a chance at revenues at much higher multiples. We all know the most worthwhile filmed storytelling over the past decade has been found on television/streaming. When your budget doesn’t allow for hiring an army of computer artists to render your eye candy, you’re motivated to tell better stories that can entertain without that candy. Filmmakers might move in that direction again, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 15 hours ago, Bayesian said: Yup. I wonder if the $200-300M budget blockbuster is not finally past its prime generally. Not only do most of those films tell silly, forgettable stories, but they usually only make 3 to 5 times their budget at the box office if they hit it big. If I were a studio exec, I feel I’d be more interested in low to mid-budget films that have a chance at revenues at much higher multiples. I would love it if studios focused on making tighter, leaner blockbuster movies. They can still have an entertaining plot and engaging characters, but show the characters doing more rather than tell it through exposition. Michael Bay is a big offender on this aspect (his awful Transformers movies), but directors like Zack Snyder and Christopher Nolan are guilty of it too. Movies like Tenet and Man of Steel have no business being 2.5 hours apiece when they could've been much better with 15-20 minutes cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 People on the internet have a weird fetish for longer runtimes because they think that somehow means "more epic" or something, regardless of pacing or redundancies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,477 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, Matt C said: I would love it if studios focused on making tighter, leaner blockbuster movies. They can still have an entertaining plot and engaging characters, but show the characters doing more rather than tell it through exposition. Michael Bay is a big offender on this aspect (his awful Transformers movies), but directors like Zack Snyder and Christopher Nolan are guilty of it too. Movies like Tenet and Man of Steel have no business being 2.5 hours apiece when they could've been much better with 15-20 minutes cut. And to think that Snyder actually broke the mold by delivering a unicorn - a midbudget action R rated blockbuster priced at a mere 60 million yet earned half a billion dollars with 300. Why not make movies like that, at better price point. Think Joker. Made at 55 million pricepoint and made a billion. Apparently Todd Philips the director took him over 200 mil for it. bruce marshall and Matt C 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Please no more movies like Joker. bruce marshall and TSMefford 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 33 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: And to think that Snyder actually broke the mold by delivering a unicorn - a midbudget action R rated blockbuster priced at a mere 60 million yet earned half a billion dollars with 300. Why not make movies like that, at better price point. Think Joker. Made at 55 million pricepoint and made a billion. Apparently Todd Philips the director took him over 200 mil for it. I definitely agree on the price point. Not just the midrange budget, but they can spend less than $200M apiece on big movies. WB was all in on filming in Australia for several films in the early Noughties because they saved tens of millions of dollars -- just on the exchange rate alone. And during Tom Rothman's last decade at Fox, a lot of their movies were filmed in Canada. And some of those films still look well-budgeted despite the lower price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: And to think that Snyder actually broke the mold by delivering a unicorn - a midbudget action R rated blockbuster priced at a mere 60 million yet earned half a billion dollars with 300. Why not make movies like that, at better price point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 @bruce marshall Joker's shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 It was alright. I liked that it was different from all the other DC and Marvel flicks. Finally a superhero movie that doesn't end with a ginormous air battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,477 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, AC1 said: If I am not mistaken this is 100 million dollars too. Edit: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/zack-snyder-returns-movies-zombie-pic-army-dead-1178979 This says 90 mil but that will undoubtedly soar above 100 given they are reshooting an entire character because of the comedian guys turned out to be creep. This isn't really mid-budget either. Neither was Sucker Punch. 300 was the last mid-priced Snyder joint. Also apparently his last truly profitable film. -- These studios don't understand simple math. Keep price down and reap profits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, AC1 said: It was alright. I liked that it was different from all the other DC and Marvel flicks. Finally a superhero movie that doesn't end with a ginormous air battle. Superhero? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 It's shorter than 'a DC Cinematic Universe' movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 They won’t stop making huge budget movies. “Only making 3-4x budget” on a $300,000,000 movie means that they’ll make $990,000,000 to $1,200,000,000. This is much more profit than they’d make on a much smaller budget mid-range movie even with a bigger multiplier. Plus, that doesn’t include just the incredible amount of merchandise that they sell from these movies. Home video, streaming/Tv rights, books, comics, action figures, statues, Funko Pops, plushy dolls, Happy Meals, t-shirts, glassware, etc etc etc. The box office is never the final word on profitability for a movie, but ESPECIALLY not in these billion dollar franchises. Edmilson and blondheim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Snyder’s zombie movie was a’ight, and I guess this will be too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 5 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: These studios don't understand simple math. Keep price down and reap profits. Gravity was one such big-budget experiment, it looked more expensive than $100M-130M but remarkably brief (91 minutes), which meant exhibitors could pack in 5 showings a day in each auditorium. Like Joker, also released in October and it was a box office wild card. And they reaped in the profits and critical accolades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I can't believe people even liked that piece of junk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 7 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: These studios don't understand simple math. Keep price down and reap profits. Um, that’s literally all they care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Patty Jenkins Has Blunt Reasons For Not Liking Joss Whedon's Justice League TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Snyder says his four-hour superhero epic may get a theatrical release — complete with an F-bomb-dropping Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Are people really that obsessed about Batman? Who cares if he swears? I’d gladly spend my money on getting movies for the other members of JL: Wonder Woman, Aquaman, The Flash, Cyborg and Superman. (And what happened to that movie about “The Trench”?) And preferably not directed by Znyder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I don't mind if Batman kills people, but I'm uncomfortable hearing him swearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 With the exception of the first Suicide Squad, everything from the DCU that didn't have Snyder's grubby little fingers on it has been very watchable/fun. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Yup, even though the way you had worded that sentence in a way that I had to think it over a couple of times before I could figure out what point you were making but I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,432 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 I want to see if they will release the Snyder Cut outside of USA for theaters or for our local HBO channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Will the Joss version become decanonised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 The concept of this self-wanking Snyder project is completely absurd to me. Here's a shitty movie, I have an idea, let's spend some more millions on it and make it two hours longer! Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 He sounds like a bit of a nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Actually, he sounds like 'one of the guys'. He could be a JWFaner, unlike Spielberg, who talks to you from his high horse, always reminding you that you're a nobody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,513 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Alex, do you really think that Spielberg talks like that? I've never found that. Granted, he talks a lot, and doesn't say much, but I've always thought that he's generally harmless. Even at 74 years of age, I still look upon him as a nerd. A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,362 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 The thing that makes me groan about most superhero movies from the last couple decades is the way the filmmakers try to make the notion of superhero powers compatible with the world we actually live in. They are NOT compatible. The first couple times seeing this, your suspension of disbelief handles things for you. After the next few times, suspending your disbelief becomes tedious. By the time something like Snyder’s JL comes around, it’s just pointless to keep pretending there’s any reason to care about what’s happening on screen. Snyder’s transparent attempt to build relevance for his movie by making some super-duper-epic-for-the-ages just proves how vacuous the whole superhero genre has become. I totally get why some folks here are so stuck on Batman ‘89 and ‘92. Those were brilliant movies because they took place in a comic book world that didn’t try to make us swallow real world settings, politics, etc. at the same as patently impossible things like flying SHIELD aircraft carriers or impossible-to-injure captain marvels or the destruction of entire financial districts with nary a consequence whatsoever. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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