DreamTheater 131 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 You know what I'm looking forward to: the Goldblum-Hirsch relationship, I thought they had chemistry together and their scenes always cracked me up in the original. Judd has genius comedic timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Didn't realise Hirsch was returning. As said, the Hirsch-Goldblum partnership was one of the better parts of ID4.Though nowhere on par with his other partnership.maybe DeVito can feature in an ID4 as Goldblum's uncle or Bill Pullman's voice coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I'm going to see David Arnold in concert tonight, where he will be performing Independence Day in the program. Hopefully he mentions at least something about the sequel if he knows anything. And if I get a chance to meet him again, then I'll make sure to ask him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Seeing Bill Pullman in those pics is fucking depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I'll be very surprised if Kloser doesn't do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Which would alienate everyone who loved ID4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Brent Spiner?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 He could sing Blue Skies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Or Lifeforms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Oh shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWMike 117 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Arnold said on Wednesday that they haven't asked thus far and so he didn't know if he'll be scoring ID2.https://twitter.com/DavidGArnold/status/613631561712410624 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 That's shitty that they haven't even bothered to speak to him about it one way or another. Shite score confirmed then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Shite movie confirmed when sequel confirmed. Score irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I'm open to another one if it's anything like the original. I dont do the whole trendy internet dismissal thing over sequels, sorry mate. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I'm confident it won't be. Sequels to twenty year old movies are tough to make with the spirit of the original. But you hold on to that boyish optimism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I can deal with the fact that Will Smith opted out. He was only one character in an ensemble.But the thought they they'll probably just casually chuck it over to Kloser because he's good mates with the director demonstrates how dismissive Emmerich and his team of sychophants have become towards high quality, dense, thematic film music in the last 15 years.The same can be said of Hollywood in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I'm confident it won't be. Sequels to twenty year old movies are tough to make with the spirit of the original. But you hold on to that boyish optimism.It's not even that though. The movie could just as well come out to rave reviews yet I might not even get around to actually going to see it, because well, I might do something else instead that day. I could be busy picking my nose on the sofa or something. A blanket indifference policy is easier for lazy movie goers like me rather than being a proactive movie geek who spends time talking about how terrible a movie is before it comes out. If it's good, great. If it's bad, who cares. Life goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 It's not a question of whether you pick your nose. It's about what you do with the booger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I'm too grizzled and jaded to think that far ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I can deal with the fact that Will Smith opted out. He was only one character in an ensemble.But the thought they they'll probably just casually chuck it over to Kloser because he's good mates with the director demonstrates how dismissive Emmerich and his team of sychophants have become towards high quality, dense, thematic film music in the last 15 years.The same can be said of Hollywood in general.Devlin actually wrote some notes for Stargate saying that he loved what Arnold had written, was a major new talent had popped up, and how he hoped we would be hearing a lot more from him in the future.Well the future is now, and if Devlin acknowledges what he has stated by hiring David, and convinces Emmerich to dismiss those 2 bozo's, we could have something here.But in all likelihood it will not happen like that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I have never understood the shaft Arnold gets. Is it because he isn't in the right circles? Because he refused to blow Zimmer? I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 His name appears on the IMDB page. There's hope still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 That doesn't mean anything. It's been that way for ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 The glass is half-full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 That empty half doesn't fill me with confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 IMDb has been updated that Harald Kloser and Thomas Wanker will score Independence Day Resurgence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Booooo Sent from my LGLS991 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Yeah, IMDB is as reliable as ever on facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Well in this case, that fact is way more believable then when Arnold was still listed as composer.I don't get it, Devlin is the producer, he was the one that put Arnold on the forefront in 1994 with Stargate. He couldn't have been more impressed with Arnold's score and writing style. Now he wants generic mediocrity in his films? What a sellout !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 It doesn't matter what Devlin wants. He's only involved in this project as a professional courtesy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Kloser and Wanker obviously think highly of themselves if they think they can stand in for Arnold. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 To be fair, I haven't been excited about a David Arnold score in at least a decade. His last few Bond films didn't really appeal to me. And the last one I own is The Musketeer from 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I agree, but ID4 2 was ideal for him and for me to be interested again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I don't see the point of an ID4 sequel without an Arnold score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 He just doesn't take on exciting projects as frequently as he used to.Kloser obviously didn't have to push very hard for the gig since Emmerich has annointed him as his right-hand man. I've never heard of a film composer with such profound ambition to wield so much control and influence on the making of the films he works on, and completely missing the irony that his musical talent is miniscule.Hollywood is full of egomaniacs, but Harald Kloser has the biggest head in film scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 At this point I'd be pretty surprised if they even bothered to use any of the original themes. To do so possibly wouldn't sit well with the replacement composers whom might look at Arnold's work like the new woman who feels threatened by the attractive ex girlfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 They played Arnold's theme during the recent official Q&A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 They'll probably play the Star Wars crawl at the Q&A when Steve Jablonsky takes over on Star Wars one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'd rather Hans Zimmer score IDR instead of Kloswank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Very depressing if true. They're hack composers who only get work because they wank the director. What little interest I had in the film is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Indeed pretty depressing news. Can't stand people who score the best gigs, not for their talent, but purely for who they suck up to. Arnold deserved to write a sequel to his best score and Kloser's generic garbage is the garage band equivalent of the film music world.So screw you, Emmerich. Go throw yourself another extravagent penthouse party and leave this sequel to someone who knows what they're doing. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Indeed pretty depressing news. Can't stand people who score the best gigs, not for their talent, but purely for who they suck up to. Arnold deserved to write a sequel to his best score and Kloser's generic garbage is the garage band equivalent of the film music world.So screw you, Emmerich. Go throw yourself another extravagent penthouse party and leave this sequel to someone who knows what they're doing.Yep. It's too bad that people like Tyler Bates and Kloser/Wanker get high profile scoring gigs while far more talented composers are forced to pick up breadcrumbs. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Indeed pretty depressing news. Can't stand people who score the best gigs, not for their talent, but purely for who they suck up to. Arnold deserved to write a sequel to his best score and Kloser's generic garbage is the garage band equivalent of the film music world.So screw you, Emmerich. Go throw yourself another extravagent penthouse party and leave this sequel to someone who knows what they're doing.Yep. It's too bad that people like Tyler Bates and Kloser/Wanker get high profile scoring gigs while far more talented composers are forced to pick up breadcrumbs. Don't forget the never-ending MV clones that come off the conveyor belt of mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Very depressing if true. They're hack composers who only get work because they wank the director. What little interest I had in the film is gone.What's weird is that the thread we posted in on IMDb about this was deleted hours later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Very depressing if true. They're hack composers who only get work because they wank the director. What little interest I had in the film is gone.What's weird is that the thread we posted in on IMDb about this was deleted hours later.Wanker must be an IMDB mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I've noticed Kloser and Emmerich's social media outlets are tightly controlled. Comments on posts that might have been a bit critical or asking hard questions have been conspicuously deleted. Of course this leaves only the monotonous "u guyz r gr8!" or "the movie will be awesum!" posts to be visible.Even Lucasfilm isn't this bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I think we all knew Arnold wasn't going to return. He seems open to it when I asked him at one of his concerts, and also he's never said no, just that he hasn't been asked yet. 'YET'so he is very open to it. So I ask the clueless idiots involved in Independence Day Insurgent, Divergent, Resurgence, Detergent or whatever B-Movie name it has; What the hell are you bloody doing? I have zero interest in this film without Arnold. And some cinema-goers will no doubt think 'where is that cool music from the last one?'I.D.4.R. More like I.D.I.O.T.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Unfortunately, whether we like it or not, filmmakers know that cinemagoers don't choose whether or not to see a movie based on who's writing the music.Kloser and Wanker can make two lame references to the famous 6-note 'Alien fanfare' and cinemagoers will go "ohhhhhhhereeerrrrr!!!!1111!!1!!!1!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 A possible scenario might be that two weeks prior to release, Kloswank files a score so wretched and insipid, Emmerich is forced to reject it and phones Arnold begging him to write a replacement score. But Arnold tells him to get lost. Then the movie's fucked. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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