Alex 2,835 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Kinda sounds similar to (3:05): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Falstaft 2,132 Posted June 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Alex said: Kinda sounds similar to (3:05): Just the tip of the iceberg, @Alex DrTenma, Edmilson, Jurassic Shark and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Lol! This is more extensive than I realized. The original might be the best. I also like the ones from Star Wars eps 2 and 8 (which is labeled as 7 in the video btw). 20 years of Ludlow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitam 364 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Heh. I never noticed some of those examples had similarities beyond "fast low strings" (one of my favourite staples of JW's action writing !) Though this is certainly not at the level of Horner's danger motif. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,441 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 I love the Ludlow motif! JW always uses it when he wants his action music more kinetic and intense. It's his own danger motif. SingeMoisi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Well, you can't plagiarize yourself but you can ' borrow' from the classics: " The Planet Krypton" = " Pines of Rome" by Respighi " BOTFJ" = aria from TURANDOT The main difference between Horner and JW, is the latter is much better at disguising his influences!😳 THE COWBOYS = JFK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 On 6/6/2020 at 2:11 PM, Falstaft said: Just the tip of the iceberg, @Alex Ha! I had never seen that video before, great work! Some of those hadn't occured to me! If you ever do an updated version, two corrections for you: The name of the character is Tintin, not Tin Tin When you showcase music from episode 8, you accidentally put "Episode VII" on the screen instead of "Episode VIII" Seriously though, fun video! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,441 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 I was listening to The Ultimate War the other day and its style reminded me of the action music for Anakin flying during the climax of The Phantom Menace, and also of Irina's Great Blade/The Adventures of Mutt. Falstaft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaft 2,132 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, Edmilson said: I was listening to The Ultimate War the other day and its style reminded me of the action music for Anakin flying during the climax of The Phantom Menace, and also of Irina's Great Blade/The Adventures of Mutt. Emulations of Korngold's swashbuckling music, all! Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,441 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 I like that style of JW's action writing. It's less heavy and dramatic than his post-Jurassic Park/Lost World style, but still very entertaining, happier, brighter and more comedic. blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 On 6/6/2020 at 2:11 PM, Falstaft said: Just the tip of the iceberg, @Alex I'd say some of these are a bit of stretch. I think the only straight clear note for note lift is in Harry Potter 1. And perhaps Stars Wars 8. And I daresay it actually works far better in HP1. So for me personally, it will always be the Quidittich motif. SingeMoisi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaft 2,132 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Sure, they're not all exact -- I think I acknowledge as much at the end. Though the majority are quite close. Here's a few transcriptions -- feel free to judge for yourself! and from Ep 8: Will and MrJosh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 The character's name is Tintin, not Tin Tin eitam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Jay said: The character's name is Tintin, not Tintin Who cares? The film was horrible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 I am sure Hergé cares. eitam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Jay said: I am sure Hergé cares. The guy who played Nick N😉ack in MWTGG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 It’s also pronounced Tahn-Tahn, as I only found out when watching interviews with JW during scoring sessions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Ton- ton😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 11 hours ago, bruce marshall said: Who cares? The film was horrible! What is the logic here? I find one composer horrible but I don't spell it zim mer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I am listening to Bruce Broughton's Lost In Space score from 1998, and I hear Ludlow's Demise motif in the track "Through The Planet", just one year after! Falstaft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Falstaft 2,132 Posted June 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jay said: I am listening to Bruce Broughton's Lost In Space score from 1998, and I hear Ludlow's Demise motif in the track "Through The Planet", just one year after! Wow, never noticed that before! Is this the part you're talking about?: To be fair to Broughton, I think both he and Williams are ultimately deriving this kind of hectic string writing from Prokofiev's Scythian Suite, specifically this section: DrTenma, Romão, Will and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 The sound quality of that youtube video is poor, but i think that's the same track. Its track 17 on the CD I was listening to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,441 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 So Williams liked to use the same fanfare for different movies on the early 2000s? crlbrg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Nah that was William Ross adapting his Clones score to fit HP2 EDIT: Looked too quickly and thought it was another HPCOS Quidditch = AOTC Coruscant Chase post, nevermind Edmilson and crlbrg 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Mortimer 43 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 On 6/13/2020 at 12:28 AM, Jay said: The Lost World was Williams best action score. I'm not surprised that he still using model cue for action music until today. Falstaft and SingeMoisi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 10:24 PM, Jay said: Nah that was William Ross adapting his Clones score to fit HP2 Somebody on this forum came to the conclusion that JW pulled a Horner on that cue. I’d like to believe that, because the difference in the details are just too big for it to be merely ‘adapted’. If the score is, like Ross claims, 100% Williams than Ross couldn’t have done that cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 This might be JW's most-recycled motif. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 A recent revisit of RAIDERS.. " Marian's Theme" " sounds like The ESB themes for Yoda and Han and Leia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,418 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 :38-:48 'Growing Up' - Superman :00-:10 'Landspeeder Search / Attack of the Sand People' - A New Hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Good one. It's only the rhythm though, which technically isn't copyrightable😁 Thank God No one started a " self-plaigarism " thread about Philip Glass! 😆 The main titles for SW and SUPERMAN use The exact same song based structure. Intro A, B Bridge , chorus etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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