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Incanus 5,858 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 last minute of the movie or last minute of the movie making process?Last minute of the movie making process. You can see the sound mixing team going completely crazy over that last "reel" in the EE documentaries.They had exceeded the film delivery deadline by 4 or 5 hours at that point and it was something like 3am in the morning when they finally locked the sound mix and the picture. Classic PJ film making. Grinds the crew to the ground and they'll thank him for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Incanus 5,858 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I hope Doug shares more trivia like this!Trivia: 0:00 - 1:44 of #HowardShore's Beyond the Forest (#DOS) presents the original 23-m. Tauriel & Kili theme sketch, fully orchestrated. (https://twitter.com/DougAdamsMusic/status/552228791670812672?s=17)Wish more of the opening made it into the main body of the score.Which means Beyond the Forest isn't actually a single suite written for the elves, it's a piece comprised of multiple sketches/pieces like Ironfoot.Cool little bit of trivia. Not a bad theme either. Great that Shore integrated that melody into the suite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 42,446 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Which means Beyond the Forest isn't actually a single suite written for the elves, it's a piece comprised of multiple sketches/pieces like Ironfoot.We knew that already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Incanus 5,858 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Beyond The Forest feels more cohesive than Ironfoot, though. It feels like one long piece of music, while Ironfoot feels like 3-4 cues stitched together.True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,869 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 But Ironfoot has to deal with seperate theme "cultures". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 42,446 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Beyond The Forest feels more cohesive than Ironfoot, though. It feels like one long piece of music, while Ironfoot feels like 3-4 cues stitched together.I agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 42,446 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The plucked strings backing is exclusive to Thrain's theme, but yes, those 4 notes at 0:16 are the meat of his theme, since obviously Erebor plays before and after itI have an update planned for the theme list that will attempt to clarify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 42,446 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Listened to Thrain, the final track of middle earth OSTs I will hear for the first time I love the Sauron music at the end! Very reminiscent of FOTR and gets back to the really powerful evil music of LOTR, something I thought was missing in the Hobbit. Though what we got were some kinda cool proto-bad guy themes.Yea, I love it too. It does remind me of FOTR and also the Palantir music from ROTK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Incanus 5,858 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Listened to Thrain, the final track of middle earth OSTs I will hear for the first time I love the Sauron music at the end! Very reminiscent of FOTR and gets back to the really powerful evil music of LOTR, something I thought was missing in the Hobbit. Though what we got were some kinda cool proto-bad guy themes.Yea, I love it too. It does remind me of FOTR and also the Palantir music from ROTKYes although stylistically it is closer to the Mirror of Galadriel rendition of the Mordor materials than the rather violent music for the PalantÃr from RotK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 42,446 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Yup, very true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 42,446 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Right, that's why I was just saying I want to update the theme list, so it shows Erebor playing as well as Thrain's theme during that part of the track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 42,446 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I thought parts of the music in that scene very reminiscent of 'An Unexpected Party', when each Dwarf is arriving and introducing themselves. I guess this was intentional...a 'Dwarf Introduction' theme if you will. Thorin's theme comes in nicely, and I'm sure I caught some Beorn material in there somewhere.Yes! And they are a call back to Moria (those three chords play in a similar way in FOTR, you'll recognise if you listen back), according to Shore.What exact timestamp in the Moria music are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 42,446 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 A lot of people immediately thought of the Dwarrowdelf theme when they first heard House of Durin, but for some reason I never associate the two together in my head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Meredith McKay 7,869 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I always thought he meant 0:16. Me too. When you post a winky face after, you mean you're joking? No. !@#$%^&* you BB!You moved this discussion to DOS?BB is not a mod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KK 3,310 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I hope Doug shares more trivia like this!Trivia: 0:00 - 1:44 of #HowardShore's Beyond the Forest (#DOS) presents the original 23-m. Tauriel & Kili theme sketch, fully orchestrated. (https://twitter.com/DougAdamsMusic/status/552228791670812672?s=17)Wish more of the opening made it into the main body of the score.Which means Beyond the Forest isn't actually a single suite written for the elves, it's a piece comprised of multiple sketches/pieces like Ironfoot.If only Shore used more of that melody in the score. It's absence in BOTFA is criminal! SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,869 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 On one hand I hope that theme is in the BOTFA EE somewhere, on the other hand... that means more Tauriel and Kili scenes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MedigoScan 372 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 2:06 of A Journey in the DarkA lot of people immediately thought of the Dwarrowdelf theme when they first heard House of Durin, but for some reason I never associate the two together in my headIt's those first two notes rise and then it falls, then it repeats. Like the first two notes rising for House of Durin except it continues to rise and then repeats.Not using the CR titles pshaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,647 Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 Listened to Thrain, the final track of middle earth OSTs I will hear for the first time I love the Sauron music at the end! Very reminiscent of FOTR and gets back to the really powerful evil music of LOTR, something I thought was missing in the Hobbit. Though what we got were some kinda cool proto-bad guy themes. Yea, I love it too. It does remind me of FOTR and also the Palantir music from ROTKYes although stylistically it is closer to the Mirror of Galadriel rendition of the Mordor materials than the rather violent music for the PalantÃr from RotK.And you hear the very different mix compared to LotR, and also the fact it was orchestrated by Pope, and not Shore. One of the few pieces where you can make a direct comparison. Especially BOTFA sometimes lacks the very clear orchestrations you are used to from Shore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 42,446 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Shore's sketches are so detailed it doesn't really matter who orchestrates them. The different orchestra, studio, recording engineer, and mixer is more to blame. SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,869 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Listened to Thrain, the final track of middle earth OSTs I will hear for the first time I love the Sauron music at the end! Very reminiscent of FOTR and gets back to the really powerful evil music of LOTR, something I thought was missing in the Hobbit. Though what we got were some kinda cool proto-bad guy themes. Yea, I love it too. It does remind me of FOTR and also the Palantir music from ROTKYes although stylistically it is closer to the Mirror of Galadriel rendition of the Mordor materials than the rather violent music for the PalantÃr from RotK.And you hear the very different mix compared to LotR, and also the fact it was orchestrated by Pope, and not Shore. One of the few pieces where you can make a direct comparison. Especially BOTFA sometimes lacks the very clear orchestrations you are used to from Shore.Well, also that track is mastered to sound more like BOFA than DOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Meredith McKay 7,869 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 If anything, there will be a short bit on the new themes, and that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jim Ware 586 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Conrad Pope has stated that no additional behind the scoring stuff was shot for Battle of the Five Armies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,935 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Why would they interview Shore? He wasn't even there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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