Howard Shore's The Desolation Of Smaug (Hobbit Part 2)

[Presto 4,254]

That cor anglais line in a feast of starlight also reminded me of something..

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[Sharkissimo 1,971]

Anyone noticed the synth pad in 'I See Fire?' Right after 'My brothers' souls.'

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[gkgyver 1,644]

Anyone noticed the synth pad in 'I See Fire?' Right after 'My brothers' souls.'

Since I've listened to that song as often as I've listened to Song of the Lonely Mountain, which is twice, I didn't notice.

[Sharkissimo 1,971]

Anyone noticed the synth pad in 'I See Fire?' Right after 'My brothers' souls.'

Since I've listened to that song as often as I've listened to Song of the Lonely Mountain, which is twice, I didn't notice.

I meant the album snippet in the Soundcloud link.

I like it, BTW. Subtle improvement.

[Jay 33,670]

Are you guys saying the SoundCloud version is different than the Music Video version?

[Sharkissimo 1,971]

Yep.

[gkgyver 1,644]

Anyone noticed the synth pad in 'I See Fire?' Right after 'My brothers' souls.'

Since I've listened to that song as often as I've listened to Song of the Lonely Mountain, which is twice, I didn't notice.

I meant the album snippet in the Soundcloud link.

I like it, BTW. Subtle improvement.

It may sound insane and incredibly petty, but I muted the stream during the song sample. It takes me out of the experience completely with that yelling voice and crass difference in tone.

Same reason I skip SotLM when listening to AUJ, but with Sheeran having the irritation level times ten.

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[Barnald 364]

The Woodland Realm!

http://tolkienisms.tumblr.com/post/67868337743/new-theme-from-howard-shore-the-woodland-realm

[Bilbo 3,707]

Cool!

[Sharkissimo 1,971]

I utterly love that motif heard in the final seconds of that cue. It also appears in 'Kingsfoil' preceding the 'Beyond the Forest testament. Any ideas what it represents?

[Barnald 364]

I utterly love that motif heard in the final seconds of that cue. It also appears in 'Kingsfoil' preceding the 'Beyond the Forest testament. Any ideas what it represents?

I don't see how it can be anything but a new theme for (shudder) Tauriel.

[Incanus 5,616]

The Woodland Realm!

http://tolkienisms.tumblr.com/post/67868337743/new-theme-from-howard-shore-the-woodland-realm

Intersting how the mood alternates between tensely ominous and lyrical and exotic throughout the track. Makes you wonder what will this piece underscore in the film. The woodelves are certainly more down-to-earth and dangerous than their ethereal Eldar cousins. I really like the woodwinds, cor anglais and/or oboe. Almost Sibelian.

[gkgyver 1,644]

The Woodland Realm!

http://tolkienisms.tumblr.com/post/67868337743/new-theme-from-howard-shore-the-woodland-realm

Intersting how the mood alternates between tensely ominous and lyrical and exotic throughout the track. Makes you wonder what will this piece underscore in the film. The woodelves are certainly more down-to-earth and dangerous than their ethereal Eldar cousins. I really like the woodwinds, cor anglais and/or oboe. Almost Sibelian.

Maybe the entracen to, well, the Woodland Realm?

[Presto 4,254]

The Cor Anglais must be a instrumental representation of the Woodelves.

[gkgyver 1,644]

Is this the regular version? The extended version is longer I think.

[Presto 4,254]

Yes, the Extended is 5:14...

I think that Cor Anglais bit in the website version of Feast of Starlight is one of Thranduils themes

[SafeUnderHill 205]

[Presto 4,254]

It actually plays twice I believe.

I listened to the first half of the Woodland realm. It only plays the Woodland Realm theme once, the same one from the production diary which I now associate with Tauriel. I was hoping for more mysterious statements of it, kind of like Lothlorien.

Perhaps the extended version?

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[Alex Shore 77]

The Woodland Realm!

http://tolkienisms.tumblr.com/post/67868337743/new-theme-from-howard-shore-the-woodland-realm

Mmmmh...that oboe line at 03:53...reminds me... SILENCE OF THE LAMBS!!!

LOVE IT!

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[BloodBoal 7,538]

Is it fair to assume most of this music, if not all of it, will be in the film?

How could we possibly know?

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[gkgyver 1,644]

I listened to the first half of the Woodland realm. It only plays the Woodland Realm theme once, the same one from the production diary which I now associate with Tauriel. I was hoping for more mysterious statements of it, kind of like Lothlorien.

Huh?

The theme is woven throughout in the whole cue.

[Incanus 5,616]

I listened to the first half of the Woodland realm. It only plays the Woodland Realm theme once, the same one from the production diary which I now associate with Tauriel. I was hoping for more mysterious statements of it, kind of like Lothlorien.

Huh?

The theme is woven throughout in the whole cue.

Yes the theme is there in orchestral variations throughout. I think SUH's expectations were for a full choral rendition of the Silvan Elven theme much like the initial presentations of Rivendell and Lothlorien themes (i.e. first shot of Rivendell and something in the vein of approaching Caras Caladhon in FotR). But I think the Wood Elves are a bit more down to earth despite there being enchantment and wonder in them and more threatening. Woodwinds seem to lend them a suitable air I feel although there is the Elven choral element present as well. And of course if the music underscores the dwarves being hauled before the king the score would not be exactly comforting would it.

[KK 3,288]

I love the diversity of the representations of the theme (which is constantly developed throughout the piece), from ethereal choir to menacing low winds. The exotic, otherworldly flair is also captured well. It's wonderful stuff.

And could 3:54 be a snippet of Tauriel's Theme? That kind of music just seems like the perfect stuff to play under all the Taurielisms.

The cue is still brief, I want MORE!

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[Incanus 5,616]

I'll have to give it another listen.

What I find most exciting is the Smaug music, I didn't expect the themes we heard in AUJ tone become as good as they have done.

You really had a great deal of faith in Shore then.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

SUH is the biggest Shore (and PJ) fanboy I've ever met. He even surpasses gkgyver in that regard (and that's quite a feat in itself).

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[Incanus 5,616]

Smaug's theme was good and all but I wasn't expecting the whole Chinese sound. I wonder if Shore planned to make it sound that way all along, there aren't any hints to it in AUJ.

I would say the Tibetan gongs were a pretty good indication of this Far Eastern colouring (I have yet to hear any overt use of Chinese intruments in the DoS score) but it has to be admitted that they were more of a textural effect in AUJ. But as with many ideas in Shore's music they grow into prominence over time. We know very well how many of his themes are just introduced in the first film (of LotR and probably also of The Hobbit trilogy) and then elaborated further later (e.g. Gondor, Woodland Realm).

[Glóin the Dark 1,159]

I've never had a great deal of affection for the "The Shire" theme but, I must say, its appearance in the "Wilderland" clip is awesome.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

By the way, wanted to ask you guys: are there any hints of Shore's theme for the Company?

[Alex Shore 77]

By the way, wanted to ask you guys: are there any hints of Shore's theme for the Company?

No.

[Incanus 5,616]

By the way, wanted to ask you guys: are there any hints of Shore's theme for the Company?

No.

And the Misty Mountains theme seems to have disappeared. At least it can't be heard in the clips.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

That'll be disappointing if both themes (or at least one of them) do not appear.

[Richard Penna 2,951]

I thought the company theme was the Misty Mountains theme?

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Incanus 5,616]

EDIT: You beat me to it BB. The Messenger is getting faster again. Good!

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[BloodBoal 7,538]

The MM theme never appeared in the first minute of any AUJ tracks except the song though, did it?

Yes, but that doesn't make it a rule, though.

[Glóin the Dark 1,159]

I've never had a great deal of affection for the "The Shire" theme but, I must say, its appearance in the "Wilderland" clip is awesome.

Isn't it in the first track? "The Quest for Erebor"?

The MM theme never appeared in the first minute of any AUJ tracks except the song though, did it?

I meant the fragment of Shiryness that appears in a more heroic-sounding form at around 1:31-1:42 in the SoundCloud preview.

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[Incanus 5,616]

The MM theme never appeared in the first minute of any AUJ tracks except the song though, did it?

Yes, but that doesn't make it a rule, though.

Well its the kind of thing that builds up before it emerges, when in action mode at least.

I've never had a great deal of affection for the "The Shire" theme but, I must say, its appearance in the "Wilderland" clip is awesome.

Isn't it in the first track? "The Quest for Erebor"?

The MM theme never appeared in the first minute of any AUJ tracks except the song though, did it?

I meant the fragment of Shiryness that appears in a more heroic-sounding form at around 1:31-1:42 in the SoundCloud preview.

What makes you say it sounds like the Shire? It does sound good though.

Except when it appears at the beginning of a battle in two places in AUJ.

[Glóin the Dark 1,159]

The MM theme never appeared in the first minute of any AUJ tracks except the song though, did it?

Yes, but that doesn't make it a rule, though.

Well its the kind of thing that builds up before it emerges, when in action mode at least.

I've never had a great deal of affection for the "The Shire" theme but, I must say, its appearance in the "Wilderland" clip is awesome.

Isn't it in the first track? "The Quest for Erebor"?

The MM theme never appeared in the first minute of any AUJ tracks except the song though, did it?

I meant the fragment of Shiryness that appears in a more heroic-sounding form at around 1:31-1:42 in the SoundCloud preview.

What makes you say it sounds like the Shire? It does sound good though.

The melodic shape is essentially that of the final phrase of a full "Shire" rendition. Imagine the lyrics "We will walk in bitter rain" from "In Dreams" accompanying it.

Could be a mere coincidence, of course.