SafeUnderHill 205 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30987 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I understand your concerns, and I am not one who would ever want to spoil anything for anybody, but I haven't said a single spoiler on this page, nor do I know of any. It ain't like Peter Jackson is slipping me intel about his post production process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6862 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Actually, it never felt too long for myself.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Farewell to Kings 3557 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 FILLER!?TTT and ROTK have much more filler than AUJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10254 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Screw you!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30987 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I absolutely think that for AUJ the Standard version should harve been a 1CD release. That would make more "new" music available on the Special Edition version, giving more incentive to purchase it, as well as provide a more standard highlight presentation for the casual fans.I wouldn't be surprised at all if for DOS they change the standard version to a 1CD and keep the SE 2 discs... but I also wouldn't be surprised if we don't even get a special edition version this time either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6862 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I'd be fine with one disc standard edition, if we get an option to buy a 2 disc SE as well.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3251 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 The LotR OSTs were largely a mess, I'm glad we're not getting those anymore But yes, I would have preferred a bigger difference between the Standard and Deluxe edition as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1066 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Considering we aren't guaranteed to get a CR for AUJ, and considering how much content we got on the OST might be left off of it even if there is, I'm glad we got two discs. But like Jason says, a 1-disc standard edition and 2-disc SE would have made more sense.Bloodboal's videos have really highlighted just how different the OST is from the film. I imagine if you bought it not understanding the process of film scoring and not being very familiar with the LotR scores, and just hoping to hear various moments from the film, you'd be pretty disappointed - even though we hardcore fans have the exact opposite reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30987 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Just think if the OSTs did have all the final film versions, when we finally got all these alternate, earlier versions in like 5+ years, they would be mind blowing! SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30987 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Oh I'm sure Complete Recordings will still be coming, and another book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6862 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 A mess?? As far as I'm aware the Hobbit soundtrack nicely portrays Shore's original intentions but the LOTR OSTs were more representative of the music actually in the films taking only the highlights, with the 70 they had.While I get what you're saying, it's not exactly the truth. The OST LOTR album now play like extra discs filled with alternates to what actually ended up in the film.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KK 3251 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 A mess?? As far as I'm aware the Hobbit soundtrack nicely portrays Shore's original intentions but the LOTR OSTs were more representative of the music actually in the films taking only the highlights, with the 70 minutes they had.Like Karol said, not exactly. Too many alternates, and the highlights aren't even preserved properly. Instead they're butchered and stitched together with random cues and very annoying micro-edits that creates a huge lack of flow in the album. The RotK OST is pretty much the only one that got it right.When I listen to LotR, I want to hear the music tell me the story. The CRs do that because all the music is there in chronological order. The OSTs are kind of all over the place, and I find it annoying.For instance, the FotR album is rather dull compared to the awesomeness of the CR. After I heard the CRs, I could never go back! Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6862 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I think there is also a whole lot of alternate takes used for OST's. And in the case you also get the original lighting of the beacons. And The End of All Things. An alternate mix of chorus in Nazgul tracks in FOTR. Stuff like that.The Two Towers album is all over the place - it place more like a suite of different ideas and not a film score. CR is a drastically different experience. I myself love the albums version (including the choirless Theoden Rides Forth too, and a slightly shorter Theoden exorcism music), it's a well put together album, but very different from film work. And, of course, I'm a big fan of Gollum's song that directly segues into Eowyn's theme and then Rohan fanfare. A much neater ending, as opposed to a heavily edited CR version.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3251 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Lol! Well everyone has different tastes I suppose. I know a lot of people who prefer the OSTs to the CRs. And there are some great alternate material on the OSTs that are left off the CRs or are better than the CR versions.It's just recently I decided to take a listen to the LotR OSTs, and I was surprised by how much I found it less interesting. It's probably I'm far too used to how it goes in the CRs and in film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30987 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 the LOTR OSTs were more representative of the music actually in the films taking only the highlights, with the 70 minutes they had. Actually, every single track of the FOTR OST has something in it that can't be found on the CRs. 01 The Prophecy - entire track 02 Concerning Hobbits - entire track seems to be different than CR version, but even if its not it contains the original version before the EE Insert 03 The Shadow Of The Past - opening cue is original version before the HOTR theme was added 04 The Treason of Isengard - intended choir mixed out of the CR version 05 The Black Rider - intended choir mixed out of the CR version 06 At The Sign Of The Prancing Pony - earlier version of cue at end we didn't get until the rarities disc 07 A Knife In The Dark - intended choir mixed out of the CR version 08 Flight To The Ford - minor differences 09 Many Meetings - Shire them on flute instead of strings 10 The Council Of Elrond - alternate passage in the middle 11 The Ring Goes South - theatrical version of departure 12 A Journey In The Dark - theatrical version of first cue 13 The Bridge Of Khazad Dun - opening cue is microedited on the CR, complete here 14 Lothlorien - opening cues are theatrical versions 15 The Great River - theatrical version of departure 16 Amon Hen - theatrical version of cues in the middle 17 The Breaking Of The Fellowship - unused intended end credits bit is at the end (replaced by tracked music in film and CR) 18 May It Be - unused intended end credits bit is at the end (replaced by tracked music in film and CR) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6862 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 In all fairness, the complete releases of any kind rarely offer a stunning listening experience. They are fascinating to study, sure, but you rarely find time to listen to something for 2+ hours. I like both, depending on a mood.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30987 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Oh, totally disagree with you. For some score the complete presentation is essential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Farewell to Kings 3557 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Dont forget, the strings overlay for 1:24 of The Nazgul (on the CR) is only on the OST, and A Knife in the Dark on the OST has additional muted brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6862 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Oh, totally disagree with you. For some score the complete presentation is essentialTo understand and study them - yes. But few people get a chance to spend over two hours every day to listen to one album.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Farewell to Kings 3557 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 .......I have been listening to the complete LOTR scores all summer now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30987 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I can happily listen to Hook and Temple of Doom in complete form over and over again no problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3251 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Oh, totally disagree with you. For some score the complete presentation is essentialI feel this is the case with LotR........I have been listening to the LOTR CR's all summer now...I usually go to the CRs whenever I want to listen to LotR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Farewell to Kings 3557 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 BTW when I say CR's, I mean MY edits, with all the alternates culled into one album, with original versions first (though sometimes I will deviate, like using the OST version of Anduril, instead the rarities version), with theatrical versions and everything else at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6862 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I can happily listen to Hook and Temple of Doom in complete form over and over again no problemBecause you're a big fan of those.What about some other scores that you like more casually? Rosewood? Explorers? The Lone Ranger? Would you enjoy a 3-hour presentation of those?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30987 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I never said it was essential for every score, I said "For some score the complete presentation is essential"There isn't a single cue from Empire Strikes Back I'd remove in a personal edit Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6862 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 And I never said never. In a good 'ol Bond tradition.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Farewell to Kings 3557 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 ...Not even the first dagobah cue? not even a microedit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6862 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I love that one, by the way.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1066 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 The nice thing about having everything is you can pick what cues you want to hear at any given time. Sometimes I'll just listen to all my 4 and 5-starred tracks from the Star Wars prequels, or just the Children's Suite, etc. With a lot of longer scores, if I feel like hearing the whole thing I'll listen to a few tracks a day until I'm done, or go for a walk and listen to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30987 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 YepBut as much as I think every score should be released in complete form eventually, I fully respect the composer's wishes to make their own arranged OST released at the time of the film's release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1066 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Yeah, it's good to have a record of which parts of a score the composer wanted people to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10254 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Every score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7536 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I doubt he'll talk about it much. Maybe he'll talk about AUJ score and the EE, but that's it. It's too soon for him to talk about the score for DoS, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannhauser 101 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 He didn't mention the Hobbit or anything related to Shore. It was all about James Horner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30987 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I think DOS has the potential to be the most thematically rich score out of the 6, really. A lot of different locations, cultures, and characters will all be be present in this film. SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 439 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 According to this message from the NZSO chief executive, the recording sessions will take place in september:http://hamiltontheatres.co.nz/events/21/nzso-heights-of-passion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tannhauser 101 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 It doesn't feel long since this time last year when the same excitement was there for the recording sessions in abbey road. Not long to wait now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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