Loert 2,509 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Ok, 1:06 - 1:11 might be a little overboard... I still think Bug Tunnel/Death Trap has one of the best uses of musical accelerando I've heard. And is that Antz from 1:34? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Good catch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlytoot 97 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 JW's The Towering Inferno main theme and Richard Strauss' Domestic Symphony main theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 ET! Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,509 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 JW should file a lawsuit! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 0:14 to 0:40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,509 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Not so much a plagiarism as a common stylistic borrowing. Hardly surprising though since JW was the pianist for Pink Panther, after all! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Mancini was just cribbing from bossa nova anyway. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,509 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Indeed! And I suspect he was one of those who made it fashionable? You hear a lot of latino percussion in film/TV music of that period. Some more "Johnny" examples... (VOLUME WARNING) Very prominent guiro in this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Someone more knowledgeable than I should answer, but I'm sure Mancini played a part in making fashionable. Of course "The Girl from Ipanema" is what made it inescapable. Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 The true Jaws origin! Loert and Score 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,509 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Muad'Dib said: The true Jaws origin! And yet people still harp on and on about that Dvorak guy! Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,270 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Dvorak's a hack fraud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,901 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 6 hours ago, Muad'Dib said: The true Jaws origin! Wait a second, that's the first few seconds of this in a different key and tempo! Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score 770 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 22 hours ago, Loert said: And yet people still harp on and on about that Dvorak guy! ... who has absolutely nothing to do with Jaws, by the way! Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 The origin of the Carnivore motif from JP? Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Raiders' March may have been inspired by the song to a 1960's Cigarette Ad. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,509 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Ah, the nostalgia... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loert 2,509 Posted July 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2017 Catch Me If You Can! James, Sharkissimo and Disco Stu 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 The beginning of Padme Falls sounds like The Lost World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 ROTS has some brilliant bits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,509 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post curlytoot 97 Posted August 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2017 Kylo Ren 1:14-1:31. The Psycho Pianist, TheUlyssesian, The Illustrious Jerry and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 NICE! - You expect me to talk? - No, Mrs. Rey! I expect you to die! Docteur Qui and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,509 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 The first few seconds of Glazunov's "The Sea" sounds like Williams' Jaws: It's in the same key too. If the Glazunov piece wasn't titled "The Sea" then I wouldn't have posted this, but the fact that it is makes the similarity more interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,509 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 This reminds me of the ballroom scene from Witches of Eastwick. And this sounds almost similar to the Witches of Eastwick main theme (e.g. in Township of Eastwick). Same centre key and same modality (C Lydian). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 A close encounter with Ligeti Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pro-arte 22 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1:22 Closer encounters !!! Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Darth Mulder 153 Posted December 27, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2017 The most coolest JW's homage ever! Docteur Qui, Loert and Cerebral Cortex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,509 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 On 30/11/2017 at 7:37 AM, pro-arte said: 1:22 Closer encounters !!! And here's another case of a classical composer stealing from Our Supreme Lord the Maestro John Williams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Mulder 153 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 This is homage to Williams. Gilderoy Lockhart or No ticket style. P.S. All music from Astérix & Obélix Contre César is excellent! I recomend Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Mulder 153 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Spielberg likes Zimmer's music. I'm sure Jack Sparrow was on temp track Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,509 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Add to this chord progression the high tinkles from A Big Beautiful Ball: And you (almost) get E.T.: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Perhaps Williams stealing from himself (kidding, I just noticed a coincidental similarity) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 The interval is different of course, but Kylo Ren is that you? Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Whoa, I don't remember that show's music sounding like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score 770 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 I've always been surprised that the score to "The Hateful Eight", which was composed more or less at the same time as "The Force Awakens", has a theme whose first 4 notes are the same as Kylo Ren's theme. Of course there is no plagiarism involved, it's just a nice coincidence that the two major film composers alive came up with a very similar theme in the same year. In this track, it starts playing at around 0:37: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Both composers are very big fans of Herrmann and it's a diminished 7th chord (I believe, I'm still learning...) so it's probably not that weird and I'm sure it appears in a lot of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score 770 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 20 minutes ago, Muad'Dib said: Both composers are very big fans of Herrmann and it's a diminished 7th chord (I believe, I'm still learning...) so it's probably not that weird and I'm sure it appears in a lot of music. No, it's not a 7 dim chord. I'm talking about the melody that, in Morricone's example, goes as G - F# - C - Eb in the key of c minor (the other instruments are playing the chord C5, so when the Eb comes, it completes a c minor chord). In "The Force Awakens", Kylo Ren's motif is often presented in C# minor, as G# - F double sharp - C# - E in the brass (then JW's melody continues with lower G#), with a C# minor chord in the strings. The melody is the same. I just find it curious that they had a very similar idea, although it's orchestrated very differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 AND the "Rebel Fanfare" heard in The Sea Hawk cue in a few places (e.g., 0:25, 1:31, 2:07) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,270 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Just me? Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Close Encounters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,821 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Does anyone know what part of the symphony are they talking about? http://www.r3ok.com/index.php?topic=1188.0&fbclid=IwAR3GyKha9XDG92cPGGQ13vWE7Bonph_V44xmEZBvnQgZkC3z5tCX6S3gpA8 Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Jedi steps and finale 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Revenge for Heal the World! The Illustrious Jerry and Ricardo Mortimer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,509 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Listen to the opening bars of the intermission music from The Ten Commandments (till 0:24): It's basically "fanfare -> descending strings -> fanfare -> descending strings" right? Now listen here from 17:42: Not only do we have the same pattern of fanfare -> strings (17:57) -> fanfare (18:13) -> strings (18:27), but the strings melody has the same contour as the strings in The Ten Commandments: down, down, up, down. Given the parallel between Mt. Sinai from The Ten Commandments and Devil's Tower from CE3K, do you think this similarity was a conscious decision by Williams? Or is it just a coincidence? Or is it somewhere in the middle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Loert said: Given the parallel between Mt. Sinai from The Ten Commandments and Devil's Tower from CE3K, do you think this similarity was a conscious decision by Williams? Or is it just a coincidence? Or is it somewhere in the middle? Well, it would appear that Spielberg was definitely linking his movie with Mt. Sinai and Ten Commandments, since that movie plays on TV at one point during CE3K. So, perhaps the music from The Ten Commandments was used as a temp track, and John followed its contours a bit. So, more general inspiration than any outright copying/paraphrasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Falstaft and Sharkissimo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaft 2,132 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Great example, Disco Stu. I think people tend to underrate Waxman's influence on Williams. Just in that cue from Taras Bulba, you can also hear at 0:45 where he gets the sort of whirling woodwind writing in, among other places, Anakin Defeats Sebulba from TPM. And the interest in fugal writing is something both Waxman and Williams were known for. 47 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now