crocodile 8,006 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Still not got that one. It's a good excuse to buy both. Or even three, if you count the recent Ron Jones disc. I enjoy the old GNP album.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 It's just a shame that GNP Crescendo didn't think to put their Insurrection OST on sale at any point over the past 15 years to try to move some of that stock..... or even offer it at a discounted price when bought with First Contact, Generations, or Best Of Both Worlds.... then maybe they would have been on board with remastering it and including it as Disc 2 of their new set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 I don't think the Insurrection OST needs remastering. It sounds great. Sure, you can always squeeze out a little more quality in a technical sense, but would it really make a difference to the listener? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 I don't think the Insurrection OST needs remastering. It sounds great. Sure, you can always squeeze out a little more quality in a technical sense, but would it really make a difference to the listener?For the most part not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 Glad to see the usual nitwits at FSM are complaining as usual.It's always easy to spend other people's money and tell them how business should be done. The sound on the original Insurrection album is fantastic and was hailed as so by many when it was released if my memory is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Most of the people at FSM are stupid anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Any CD mastered in 1998 can sound better when mastered again in 2013 technology.You will hear the difference in the tracks on the new CD that are the same as tracks from the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 The CD doesn't sound bad enough to where it needs to be remastered. You can only do so much. The album for Generations was bad, that needed remastering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 The CD doesn't sound bad enough to where it needs to be remastered. You can only do so much. The album for Generations was bad, that needed remastering.Agreed.Insurrection has a bit of reverb to it...although I guess if it's that way with the original master tapes or how they recorded it then is nothing they could really do. I'll be doing a good comparison of the two albums in terms of how they sound when I get my CD.I could see the legit of Jason's question about why they didn't bundle the OST with it for those who may have never owned it. However, if they did they may have marked up the CD a few more bucks and people would bitch about that....To me it doesn't matter, I have the Insurrection OST on CD. That along with the Trek 09 OST so far are the only two OST presentations I have kept. The others I tossed because they were obsolete, yes even tossed the original OST for The Wrath Of Khan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,192 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Any CD mastered in 1998 can sound better when mastered again in 2013 technology. You will hear the difference in the tracks on the new CD that are the same as tracks from the OST. If the new release is really going to have a drier sound, I don't think you'll be able to easily compare them, objectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 I've always found the OST mix a bit too wet and echoey, and I only bought it digitally, so I'm fine with a drier mix.The original album can be purchased from Amazon for less than £1, so while I can understand some FSMers wanting it remastered, it still sounds perfectly fine. Some of them are acting like the OST is suddenly being stolen from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 It's now up for Pre-Order!http://store.gnpcrescendo.com/new/product_info.php?products_id=231 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Unlikely Captors doesn't seem to be there? Maybe they've combined it somewhere else. (I hope 'expanded' rather than 'complete' for First Contact isn't indicative) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 I think "Unlikely Captors" is actually "Warp Capability". The cue names are very similar if not the same from when the boot first surfaced YEARS ago. I assumed those cue names were wrong but it appears they were correct.The boot MAYBE worth keeping if cues can't be cleanly separated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 I doubt they've crossfaded - the producers should know better than to do that.And... ordered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 What's your order number? Mine's 1853. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 1857 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Ah very nice. It'll be interesting to compare the sound of this release to the boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Ordered, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 BTW....it was pointed out to me in the press release announcement of this..."GNP Crescendo\’s new Expanded Collector\’s Edition of Goldsmith’s complete score includes a half hour more music than the original 1998 CD, plus several alternates—for a total running time of over 79 minutes."Yet the track list shows just over 71 minutes. If the track list is incomplete whoever posted the track list NEEDS to correct it, if the press release is accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 All I know is that it's more great music from this score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Do we have a cue list for this film? And does anyone have a guess as to why GNP decided to put both versions of "The Healing" right next to each other before the End Credits (as opposed to including one as a bonus cue after the credits)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 The cue list they have used for Generations, First Contact and now Insurrection are their ORIGINAL cue titles. Actually ALL the Star Trek film score releases thus far have used their original titles for their respective scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Alright, well how about Silvestri's "Mambo" music -- do we know where it should go chronologically on the new album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Right before "How old are you?", as it segues to that in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 GNP replied to my post on Facebook..."Hey Trent, I saw this a little earlier on FSM and will try to get to the bottom of it tomorrow. For now, assume the track listing is correct!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Thanks OneBuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Expanded edition of a complete score... So is it complete, or just expanded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 It's complete to what's in the film, but it appears the OST used some non-film takes.The usual guys (Kendall, Takis et al.) worked on this, so we know it's done right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Correct track listing:1. Ba'ku Village 6:532. Out of Orbit / Take Us In 1:443. Come Out 2:344. In Custody 1:145. Warp Capability / The Planet / Children's Story 2:336. The Holodeck 4:357. How Old Are You / New Sight 6:148. Lost Ship / Prepare the Ship 2:399. As Long as We Can 1:4010. Not Functioning / Send Your Ships 2:5511. Growing Up / Wild Flowers / Photon Torpedo 2:5512. The Drones Attack 4:1513. The Riker Maneuver 3:1514. Stay With Me 1:4815. The Same Race 2:5016. The Collector 1:1017. No Threat 4:1818. Tractor Beam 0:3819. The Healing Process (revised) 5:0420. The Healing Process (original version) 7:1721. End Credits 5:30Total Time: 71:37 Bonus Tracks 22. Ba'ku Village (alternate ending) 3:5323. The Holodeck (alternate opening) 1:1224. Growing Up (alternate) 1:2125. Tractor Beam (alternate) 0:38Total Time: 7:25 Total Disc Time: 79:02Available to order at:http://store.gnpcrescendo.com/new/product_info.php?products_id=231http://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/M08938/star-trek-insurrection/http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.8234/.f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Much better now. I'll place my order around the time CD's start shipping. It's almost 4 weeks away.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Glad they fixed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Watched the movie the other night to reacquaint myself with the score. There's some material not even on the unmentionable. Mainly small moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 We're not FSM we can say the word boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Okay, the illegally produced CDR, aka boot. I also noticed that the film version of The Holodeck started differently, with this synth chromatic rhythm as data enters the water.Until I paid closer attention to the film, I thought the boot was complete.I'll be glad to retire it in favor of its new matrix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Okay, the illegally produced CDR, aka boot. I also noticed that the film version of The Holodeck started differently, with this synth chromatic rhythm as data enters the water.Until I paid closer attention to the film, I thought the boot was complete.I'll be glad to retire it in favor of its new matrix.I think I made those notations on FSM but ya "The Holodeck" on the boot for the opening of it is an alternate. Kinda of cool that they'll be including that on the album. One of the versions of "Tractor Beam" is on the boot but it'll be interesting to hear both versions.Although I do wonder if I'll be able to do a fade in for "The Healing Process" I mean after where it picks up in the film again from the revised action music. Oh and I too watched the film the other night to get reacquainted lol.Although with the bridge having slightly redesigned, Data being able to remove his emotion chip (despite showing he couldn't before) and the mention of the Borg and the Dominion but the Enterprise not having any weapons upgrades....I consider that film to take place in a SLIGHTLY alternate timeline. As we know it Nemesis it showed the proper weapon upgrades she would have received during the Dominion war.Anyways, I'm definitely looking forward to the release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I'll bundle this with Generations and the Ron Jones box. Hope the Aussie Dollar is still above USD 90 cents at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I think GNP got their discs in earlier than expected. I say that because I got shipping notification from them a few hours ago for my copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,192 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 The MovieMusic store changed its Facebook banner image to Insurrection 13 hours ago. Hope SAE gets its copies soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Mine's shipped too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I ordered just after Trent, so hopefully..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST-321 4 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I think GNP got their discs in earlier than expected. I say that because I got shipping notification from them a few hours ago for my copy. Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Me three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Wha?I hope they're not prioritising domestic orders over international. Plus I used paypal, so they've had my money for weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 They're probably just going through the list and chugging through them, in no particular order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 That would be my guess too. Others may have ordered before you did Rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Shipped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 I'm still waiting.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Still no shipping notice. It'll get here soon enough though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 GNP posted on a wall reply of mine to their facebook page about 3 hours ago that I made last week.CDs are shipping today as planned. Sorry for any confusion!So ya just be patient it's comin'. In the mean time we have the boot to pass the time. ST-321 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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