OneBuckFilms 319 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Shipped at about 8:00pm. Not ling now, folks ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Not ling? lmaoAccording to tracking I'll have my copy on Friday, can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Damn you autocorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 What kind of autocorrect would change a word to "ling" instead of "long?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Mine changes crap straight to crappie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 The autocorrect in my fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 You had something long in your fingers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 According to tracking I should have it tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Me too -- can't wait!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Oh just got a shipping notification.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Mine is currently out for delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Nice and fast Trent.You'll enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 GNP has made the track by track liner notes John Takis wrote available for downbload.http://gnpcrescendo.com/insurrection/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 I got mine today.GNP has made the track by track liner notes John Takis wrote available for downbload.http://gnpcrescendo.com/insurrection/Notice the error right away on the cover?2 Disc set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 So... dryer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Mine arrived a day early and am happy. This set is glorious and that is weird that the liner notes show it as a 2-CD set...Now let's pray and hope Varèse comes to their senses and releases a complete version of Nemesis (and eventually STID) to round out the scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 There really isnt enough material for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 What?Do you mean "there is not anything missing from the Boot/OST that could be added in a expanded release"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Trent might be able to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,361 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Wow. Proof that it started as a 2CD set and someone talked them down to a 1CD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Wow. Proof that it started as a 2CD set and someone talked them down to a 1CDIt never started out as a 2-CD set and dwindled down to 1-CD. GNP posted on FSM they said it was just human error, there were NO last minute changes. There really isnt enough material for that.Eh? I'm confused... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Takis 206 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Wow. Proof that it started as a 2CD set and someone talked them down to a 1CDIt never started out as a 2-CD set and dwindled down to 1-CD. GNP posted on FSM they said it was just human error, there were NO last minute changes. Yeah, to the best of my knowledge this was a 1-CD set from the get-go. It was certainly never a 2-CD during the period I was involved. I'm pretty sure what we have here is a case of someone working from the GENERATIONS template, forgetting to make the change, and nobody catching the error during the proofreading phase -- myself included! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 After a quick listen it sounds a bit dryer, not by much though. The electronics are more prominent in the mixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Which Mr. Olivarez, is all it needed.I've listened to it a fair amount (my scores are my commute music) and I'm enjoying it a great deal.The electronics at the beginning of "The Holodeck" are more complex than I remembered watching the film, and make me smile a little every time that track starts.The OST doesn't do the score justice, frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Yup the mixing for this release definitely brings the synths out more and were dialed down in quite a few of places in the film. "The Holodeck" is one example but another comes to mind is the revised version of "The Healing Process". I heard more synths with this than what is heard in the film itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Wow. Proof that it started as a 2CD set and someone talked them down to a 1CDIt never started out as a 2-CD set and dwindled down to 1-CD. GNP posted on FSM they said it was just human error, there were NO last minute changes. Well, depending how you look at it, their previous Insurrection album is a second disc, given that there many differences between the two. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 After a quick listen it sounds a bit dryer, not by much though. The electronics are more prominent in the mixes. Sounds promising. I should have mine by the end of next week I think. The OST doesn't do the score justice, frankly. Definitely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 You know...a few people deride this score as being repetitive.Having listened to the expanded release, with a lovely refreshing (slightly drier....not quite down to STV) mix that shifts some focus in instruments....Jerry took the dominant theme and built an incredible score around and out of it. It's a score with strong musical DNA. Everything else emerges from that DNA. Probably one of the best constructed scores of his late career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 So with this new release, exactly which parts of the OST are worth keeping on our hard drives? Any notable alternates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I am still not completely won overby this score... I still prefer Nemesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 So with this new release, exactly which parts of the OST are worth keeping on our hard drives? Any notable alternates?Mostly just "Children's Story". It is so weird to hear the short film version after use to hearing the longer one from the OST for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Alright, I'll add that, the Mambo music, and the album version of the End Credits to my edit.I agree Fal. I really only love the Ba'ku theme, but I bought this anyway as a semi-completist who loves all of Goldsmith's other Trek scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I am still not completely won overby this score... I still prefer Nemesis.I bet if you gave it more time, you might like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I might, I did'nt "get" 2009 and STV for the longest time, but now I love em'! (STV moreso) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 This really is one of his strongest late scores. There's some really good action music that is some of his all time best. Sent from Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Oh I go giddy when Jerry goes all electronicky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Mostly just "Children's Story". It is so weird to hear the short film version after use to hearing the longer one from the OST for so long. Really? Children's Story has always been one of my favourite cues from the score. Guess I'll have to use the old album version in my playlist. Can't wait for the CD. Good to see it finally seems to be getting the appreciation I've always said it deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 10, 2013 Author Share Posted August 10, 2013 Well yes Lukas did say to hang on to the original album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I know. I just was expecting less significant alternates... like slight differences in the action material. Not a Jaws situation in one of the (for me) major tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I'll have to compare the OST and this new cd for the end credits.Definitely enjoying this release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 10, 2013 Author Share Posted August 10, 2013 I really don't like Goldsmith's arrangement of the end credits for Insurrection.Sounds too much like a concert hall recording.Doesn't sound any better on this disc either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Arrangement or the performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 10, 2013 Author Share Posted August 10, 2013 Both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Did he alter the arrangement from TFF and FC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 10, 2013 Author Share Posted August 10, 2013 Yes. There are certain points where the brass is playing much softer on certain bars.If I'm not mistaken he may have also used that arrangement in several concerts at the time as well. And the Telarc release, The Film Music Of Jerry Goldsmith uses the same arrangement.And although Nemesis' end credit performance is rather a lazy rendidtion of the Trek theme, it goes back to the original arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I think it sounds a bit better but not much. It could be how the placement of the mics were maybe they were put to far from the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,687 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 The brass during the closing statements of the march certainly sound very distant. I like the arrangement, but the recording/performance could be drier and clearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Yes. There are certain points where the brass is playing much softer on certain bars.Thats not an indication of a different arrangement, just a different performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Well, surely he's written the crescendo into the score. So technically he changed the arrangement. I rather like the effect. It only gets troubling when the crescendo gets so extreme that the brass get insecure, as in several live performances (I don't recall if Nemesis has that problem, or if it's just all down to the general unexcitement there). But then, the whole piece seems to be a real workout for the brass section. The LSO at least always had trouble getting it right live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I don't remember hearing any brass issues with Nemesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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