Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 31 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: This. Batman is a much more developed character, his moral laws are what make him interesting, particularly with The Joker. I don't mind superheroes killing, but I'd rather watch The Shadow instead of Batman for that. Next time, you get to be on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 3 hours ago, Shatner's Rug said: Batman should kill vicious murderers. Who else will? Bale's Batman was incompetent. And yet he had lethal weapons attached to his vehicles. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 7 hours ago, Cerebral Cortex said: This. I mean, why should Batman not kill people? Honestly, murder should have been made legal years ago IMO. In certain circumstances, it is. 3 hours ago, Shatner's Rug said: Batman should kill vicious murderers. Who else will? Bale's Batman was incompetent. Bale was no more than a boy sent to do a man's job. 4 hours ago, Nick Tatopoulos's Beret said: I prefer Batman maiming and killing. Even Adam West's Bruce Wayne, who lamented the accidental deaths of the rehydrated pirates and avoided killing everyone on that day when you just couldn't get rid of a bomb at one point snapped and threatened to kill all the villains if they harmed Ms. Kitka. I grew up with Michael Keaton's Batman, who bombed a chemical factory, picked guys off with miniguns and bombs from the Batwing, threw a black guy to his death and strapped an explosive device to some fat asshole. In the late 20th century/21st century, when you're dealing with terrorist organizations operating within the United States armed with automatic weapons, chemical weapons, bombs and maybe worse, you can't just catch these assholes in a net and drop them off on the front steps of city hall. We have to annihilate! Kill! Kill! Kill! "Some fat asshole". I nearly snorted coffee all over my mobile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 OK i understand why batman does it. Most of his archenemies are maniacs so he throws them into the asylum. But the commonthugs and henchmen? many evil not-crazy people there. Anyway, i suppose that in the comics there are only a few thugs. not an unlimited army like in videogames.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 How should he defeat guys armed with automatic weapons and explosive devices? With a Super Energy Reverse Polarizer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 On 7/5/2016 at 9:22 PM, Romão said: A Batman that kills would pretty much only defeat the Joker, Two Face,Scarecrow and what not once and be done with it. He would simply kill them straight away. I much prefer the version where he doesn't kill. Makes him coherent with his mission and the tragedy that spawned him And lend a higher degree of nobility and heroism to him. He is, after all, a superhero. There's a certain stubbornness to him not killing. It would be so much easier if he just carried a gun and shot people. But he would then be no different than the murderers he pursues, and for there to be any kind of greater purpose to his crusade beyond a nihilistic cycle of violence and death there has to be a clear delineation between Bruce and the "bad guys", however thin it might be. Romão 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Just now, Red said: And lend a higher degree of nobility and heroism to him. He is, after all, a superhero. There's a certain stubbornness to him not killing. It would be so much easier if he just carried a gun and shot people. But he would then be no different than the murderers he pursues, and for there to be any kind of greater purpose to his crusade beyond a nihilistic cycle of violence and death there has to be a clear delineation between Bruce and the "bad guys", however thin it might be. Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Or we could have spared Gotham City from Bane's reign of terror and just unleashed Michael Keaton's Batman on the fucker. Everyone would have been better off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Except Michael Keaton, of course, who deserves better than to participate in your infantile delusions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 It's a low forum, full of rumpots. They're used to curious sights, which they attribute to alcoholic delusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 According to a Dutch poll held by Filmtotaal, Cavil is the best Superman. Henry Cavill: 54% Christopher Reeve: 42% Brandon Routh: 4% Poor Brandon... Was he really that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 It's a Dutch poll. Do they have a poll from Luxembourg, Estonia, and San Marino, too? I'd love to see their opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 How denigrating of you, chauvinist Wojo! Sometimes you sound like that Trump dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 He only cares about good old 'Merica! Yippie!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 When did I say I was interested in only America? I just think some other small irrelevant European countries need to have their voices evaluated with regard to this iconic character. Why stop at Europe? I need Qatar, Lesotho, Guyana, and Fiji to submit polls too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 We are NOT irrelevant! #DutchLivesMatter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 And of course ISIL. I want to know which actor ISIL thinks was the best Superman. They'd probably pick somebody like George Reeves or Dean Cain. Those clowns are so out of touch with reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 You are comparing The Netherlands with ISIS now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Inasmuch as we're ranking Supermen, #alllivesmatter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Terrorist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 I'm waiting for the first JWfanner to confess that he prefers Routh over Cavill. I wonder who it will be ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 I prefer Dean Cain over Cavill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Me too and I have no idea if you're serious or not. Routh and Cavill didn't bring enough to the character to prefer one to the other? What was the difference, really, except that the latest one was more ripped? They were more boring than Algebra II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Of course you do ... Cain is American and Cavill is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 When I had Algebra 2, the teacher dumped water on a sleeping student. Good times. Just now, Alexcremers said: Of course you do ... Cain is American and Cavill is not. I like my Supermen like I like my presidents. American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Margot Kidder, Teri Hatcher and to an extent Erica Durance are the only good Lois Lanes. Kate Bosworthless and Amy Addams are boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 We need an Australian Lois Lane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: We need an Australian Lois Lane! Wouldn't that suggest that Jor "Maximus"-El is her father? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I personally dislike the thought of anyone, good or "bad," being killed for any reason, so my preferred version of all superheroes bring criminals to justice through nonlethal means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, mstrox said: I personally dislike the thought of anyone, good or "bad," being killed for any reason, so my preferred version of all superheroes bring criminals to justice through nonlethal means. What about when Die Hard drops Hans Zimmer from the Nakatomi Plaza? Or when Hannibal Lecter makes a bowl of Ray Liotta's skull? Or when James Bond blows Hugo Drax out through the airlock? Or when Darth Vader threw Palpy down the shaft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I accept the fact that heroes commit murder in movies. Not my preferred thing to see, but it's part of the deal. Filmmakers don't always share my feelings on things, so I don't expect every movie to appeal to my personal politics. I haven't seen BvS yet, but every previous film Batman has killed and I count some of those movies among my favorites. It isn't my preferred characterization, but it's not a dealbreaker for me. I find movies to be much more enjoyable if I try to enjoy them for what they are and not what they could have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 31 minutes ago, mstrox said: I find movies to be much more enjoyable if I try to enjoy them for what they are and not what they could have been. If it's not what it could have been, I'd prefer not to ackowledge it as canon. Like Independence Day Resurgence. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Man Of Steel 2 Trailer set to John Williams Superman score (cut from Batman V Superman) footage. There is no more fitting music to accompany Superman than John Williams music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Even when the film is crafted in an aesthetic that has nothing to do with Williams' own? Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 As much as I can't stand the BvS score, Williams' music would have been just as inappropriate. Let the new movies have their junkie. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 That was pretty good. I want to see it again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Is it truly honest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Most people don't really understand the film I think. Snyder is a bit too difficult for them. Their loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Now you with the "classic Cremers!", as you put it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I would recommend the ultimate edition of this film to you, but I know of your disdain for 3 hours films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 8 hours ago, Alexcremers said: Is it truly honest? Its a comedy video that highlights what is good and bad about the film. Some really good jokes in there, a funny watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 7 hours ago, Jay said: I liked the teaser for it too (and I know you've probably seen it already!). Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I despise Honest Trailers and Cinema Sins both. They may wrap it up in "humor" (it's never actually funny to me) but they espouse the wrong way of watching and judging movies IMO. Not Mr. Big and Dixon Hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 From my understanding, they all love films. That is why they take them apart this way. Besides, EverythingRight videos are actually quite boring to watch. Everyone can tell you what they like about films but it takes an extra bit of intelligence and knowledge to find inconsistencies and have a laugh like this. And that's what these are videos are: made for laugh. I like the ones in which the screenwriters actually watch those thing with those guys and have a conversation. Like that Thor screenwriter, for example. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Just more post modern internet humour which I can do without and actively avoid. Never watched any of their YouTube content. /grumpygrandad Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I will admit that Honest Trailers isn't nearly as bad as Cinema Sins, which is just irritating and maddening beyond belief to me. And on the contrary, I love watching a good video essay that passionately explains why someone loves a particularly movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 CinemaSins guys often overdo their stuff and rate some things as sins... just because. I agree. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I quite enjoyed this video critique of the CinemaSins approach: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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