nightscape94 965 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Hey, you try to film a movie with a tesseract lens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,621 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I'm totally on board for 1 or maybe even 2 Avatar sequels but 4 is pushing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Avatar Avatar: The Humans Strike Back Avatar: The Return of the King of the World Avatar: Mocking Jake Part 4 Avatar 5: Back 2 tha Hood. Matt C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Jay said: What a dumb idea. The sequel won't make half as much money as the first one did, and they'll just keep dropping from there. Wait until he announces it's gonna be in virtual reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,384 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I, for one (as an avid AVATAR lover), am quite thrilled with this news. The only drawback is that he will be so preoccupied with this for the next seven years, that we don't get to see him use his visionary qualities on other material. Unless he manages to sneak a couple of projects in there, like THE INFORMATIONIST -- which is still listed as a viable, future project (now that BATTLE ANGEL and the Nagasaki/Hiroshima projects both seem dead). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 James Cameron is 61 years old. When Avatar 5 comes out in December of 2023, he'll be 69 years old. You think he's gonna make more movies after all that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 37 minutes ago, Thor said: I, for one (as an avid AVATAR lover), am quite thrilled with this news. The only drawback is that he will be so preoccupied with this for the next seven years, that we don't get to see him use his visionary qualities on other material. Unless he manages to sneak a couple of projects in there, like THE INFORMATIONIST -- which is still listed as a viable, future project (now that BATTLE ANGEL and the Nagasaki/Hiroshima projects both seem dead). Battle Angel is going to be directed by Robert Rodriguez. Cameron will still produce the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,384 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I hope so. The legendary Portuguese director Manuel de Oliveira made movies untill he was 105. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,268 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Indeed he did, albeit they were much less demanding logistically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,790 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I couldnt see a satisfying avatar sequel....the film ended pretty well and closed. But making 4 more movies looks insane. It it at least had some basis on a book series or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,235 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 29 minutes ago, Jay said: James Cameron is 61 years old. When Avatar 5 comes out in December of 2023, he'll be 69 years old. You think he's gonna make more movies after all that? I really believe that Cameron's gonna be like Spielberg and Scorsese and never stop making movies. He's said as much in interviews, anyway, but for all we know he could still be developing his Avatar 5 follow-up at 90 when the Grim Reaper drags him away kicking and screaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I think we all know those release dates aren't going to happen. I'll be surprised if he ever gets past 2 and maybe 3. It's taken him 10 years to do a sequel if he releases it in 2018/19. That's ridiculous. I enjoyed Avatar and welcome a sequel, but 4 sequels is never going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,304 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 After the huge drop in returns for the sequel, they won't bother with the other 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Weren't they all be shot at the same time though? Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 James Cameron is shooting all 4 Avatar sequels at the same time Quote "It’s more the way you would shoot a miniseries. So we’ll be shooting across all [Avatar scripts] simultaneously. So Monday I might be doing a scene from Movie Four, and Tuesday I’m doing a scene from Movie One". "We’re working across, essentially, eight hours of story. It’s going to be a big challenge to keep it all fixed in our minds, exactly where we are, across that story arc at any given point. It’s going to be probably the most challenging thing I’ve ever done. I’m sure the actors will be challenged by that as well. It’s like, ‘No, no, no, no, this person hasn’t died yet, so you’re still in this phase of your life.’ It’s a saga. It’s like doing all three Godfather films at the same time.” Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen This part is kinda interesting: Quote Cameron also confirmed that the reason his Avatar films will be released a couple years apart is because of a certain Star Wars franchise; “My original plan was to release them a year apart, but we’re opening that up. If for no other reason than that I don’t want to land on the same date as one of the Star Wars sequels. That wouldn’t be fair to them. [Laughs] No, that’s just good business. I don’t want to go head-to-head with Star Wars. That would be stupid. And hopefully they won’t want to go head to head with us.” Currently Disney has Episode 7 in December 2015, Rogue One in December 2016, Episode 8 in December 2017. Now we've got Avatar sequels in December 2018, 2020, 2022, and 2023. Does that mean he knows that Disney is planning their 2018 Star Wars film (Han Solo) for May 2018 instead of December 2018? And that he assumes 2019's Episode 9 will be in December and not May? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I don't envy the script supervisor(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,304 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 He makes it sound like its some revolutionary way of film-making. But isn't that exactly what was done with LOTR in 1999? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 It's the way plenty of film productions have happened - LOTR, Matrix 2/3, Pirates of the Caribbean 2/3, The Hobbit, etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Superman The Movie/Superman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,235 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 1 hour ago, KK said: He makes it sound like its some revolutionary way of film-making. But isn't that exactly what was done with LOTR in 1999? I'm not sure if anybody's ever done four at once. Do we know how much overlap the LOTR productions had? My impression was that they kind of had each of the three films roughly blocked out and that any crossover between them was more the exception than the rule, but I could be wrong about that. I assume there would be things like they would have done the Shire stuff from ROTK at the same time as they were doing FOTR, right? And I know they said they did Grey Havens "right in the thick of principal photography" but I dunno what exactly that would mean....like if it's just that it was toward the beginning of working on ROTK but they had more or less finished with the first two films, or if it was like "Dead Marshes last week, Grey Havens this week, Lothlorien next week!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 You're wrong. The three LOTR films were shot as one big production, they didn't block out months for specific films. One day they'd be filming scenes for FOTR in the morning and scenes for ROTK in the afternoon and the next day scenes for TTT or whatever. Plus, they had 2 simultaneous units running for a while (IE Peter Jackson's main unit, John Mahaffie's second unit, and sometimes a third unit as well) and of course scenes moved from one film to another during post-production too. It was really at the editing stage that they were broken into 3 separate films; From the beginning they had a different editor assigned to each one, and the dailies would come in and be sent to one editor only and he would work on only that film. Of course one principal was done PJ was heavily involved in the editing process an in the moving of scenes from one intended film to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Back To The Furure 2 and 3 were also shot back to back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 10 hours ago, Jay said: James Cameron is shooting all 4 Avatar sequels at the same time Currently Disney has Episode 7 in December 2015, Rogue One in December 2016, Episode 8 in December 2017. Now we've got Avatar sequels in December 2018, 2020, 2022, and 2023. Does that mean he knows that Disney is planning their 2018 Star Wars film (Han Solo) for May 2018 instead of December 2018? And that he assumes 2019's Episode 9 will be in December and not May? My guessing is that Cameron wants to stagger post-production work too -- the guy's co-edited his last several films (including Avatar), and it's going to be a long post-production schedule even if he has four separate editors doing most the work. I'm pretty sure it's crossed his mind that Disney will likely schedule Episode IX for December 2019 too. So he'll "let them have that spot" while he takes a breather. Hence the two-year gap between 2018 and 2020 and 2020 and 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 The more pressing question: did he get a capable writer this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,384 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 4 hours ago, Matt C said: I'm pretty sure it's crossed his mind that Disney will likely schedule Episode IX for December 2019 too. So he'll "let them have that spot" while he takes a breather. Hence the two-year gap between 2018 and 2020 and 2020 and 2022. I can understand that he wants to take a "breather" inbetween some of this complicated schedule, but I really wish he'd manage to sneak in a less elaborate project or two as well. Do we know that he's still doing THE INFORMATIONIST first, before he throws himself into this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 James Cameron....less elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,384 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Yeah, sounds like an oxymoron, I know (him being the perfectionist that he is). But films like THE INFORMATIONIST seem more straightforward, logistics- and production-wise. I hope we get to see both that and some other smaller projects in the years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 12 pages? But I thought almost everyone hated Avatar here? Oh I remember now you're all a bunch of bullshitters aren't you, silly me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I quite enjoyed Avatar. Good score, too. I'm not sure I care to see four more of these, though. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mr. Breathmask said: I'm not sure I care to see four more of these, though. I think that's ultimately the problem. I wonder if Cameron and 20th Century Fox don't understand that a large part of Avatar's success was the novelty of 3D. These days no one cares about 3D anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,268 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I did not enjoy Avatar, but never bet against Cameron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 That's true. People were convinced Titanic would be a massive bomb. No one figured Avatar would be big, yet it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,268 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Even if these movies drop significantly from the first in the US, they will be absolutely massive in Asia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Why do Asians like this shit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,384 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 To be honest, I want far more than just four AVATAR sequels. I'm so in love with this universe, I could stay in it forever. No reason why this can't be on the same level as STAR WARS or LORD OF THE RINGS eventually. Long live Pandora! JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Do you read up on all the lore then? Is there lore for this? Quintus - never looks at lore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,274 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I doubt Avatar 2 will even make that December 2018 date, unless these films are radically shorter than the original (which makes sense -- this 4th sequel appeared out of nowhere; for all we know they just reconfigured the long-gestating 3 sequel scripts into 4 shorter ones). But 3D/HFR render times alone will be a nightmare with a perfectionist like Cameron, and they haven't even started shooting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I trust in him. His films are visual masterpieces even when there are shortcomings in his scripts. But he's been working hard to up that portion for these sequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,384 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 23 minutes ago, Quintus said: Do you read up on all the lore then? Is there lore for this? Quintus - never looks at lore To be perfectly honest, I'm not that interested in "lore" either -- although I do think the AVATAR universe has the potential to reach great mythological heights. I'm more interested in the 'immersive' qualities of these films; just being absorbed on an almost physical level by the place itself (which the first film did marvelously, and which Cameron excels at in general). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 15 minutes ago, crumbs said: I doubt Avatar 2 will even make that December 2018 date, unless these films are radically shorter than the original (which makes sense -- this 4th sequel appeared out of nowhere; for all we know they just reconfigured the long-gestating 3 sequel scripts into 4 shorter ones). But 3D/HFR render times alone will be a nightmare with a perfectionist like Cameron, and they haven't even started shooting! In the article Jay posted, Cameron says they're working across 8 hours of story, meaning each film will run 2 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Exactly. They may have re-configured three 2h40m scrips into four 2h scripts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Peter Jackson did something similar but forgot about the part where you're supposed to shorten the instalments. In fairness to Jacko though he's no James Cameron. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,274 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 The world would've been much better off with 3x two-hour Hobbit films than the bloated monstrosities we received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 One 3 hour film would have been sufficient. Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 But it wouldn't have been epic enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,274 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 It wouldn't have had Legolas riding upside down on giant bats decapitating orcs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 As someone who enjoyed The Lord Of The Rings for what they were, I don't think I'll ever watch The Hobbit films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 There are far worse ways to spend an evening than watch the Hobbit films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Like what? What would you be doing before watching the Hobbit movies? Oh. Than. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Wut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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