Smeltington 1,440 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Every time the Avatar sequels get delayed, their quality improves. This is exciting. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 It's funny to think when these sequels were first formally announced (in 2013!) they were to be out in December '16, '17, and '18. Now the project won't be done until 2028, 10 years after their original intentions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,439 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 There'll be a bigger timespan between Avatar 1 and 2 than the one between Titanic and Avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 42 minutes ago, Jay said: Now the project won't be done until 2018 We're in 2020 now, believe it or not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Typo fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,439 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Huh ‘Avatar 2’ And ‘Aquaman 2’ Are Now Scheduled To Open On The Same Day But, of course, Aquaman 2 will be delayed, probably to summer 2023. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 45 minutes ago, Jay said: Now the project won't be done until 2028, 11 years after their original intentions I guess you mean 10 years after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Second typo fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: We're in 2020 now, believe it or not! It's 2002. 2020 is way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 It feels like 2010 to me. Like a bad sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,439 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 James Cameron Says Filming on Avatar 2 is 100% Complete Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 New Zealand is a good place to be in the film industry right now. Talk about winning the pandemic lottery! They'll probably wrap 3, 4, and 5 before H-wood really gets up and running in full again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 On 7/24/2020 at 3:47 PM, Jay said: It's funny to think when these sequels were first formally announced (in 2013!) they were to be out in December '16, '17, and '18. Now the project won't be done until 2028, 10 years after their original intentions What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,651 Posted September 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2020 James Cameron happened Bilbo, Jurassic Shark and Edmilson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 He's getting older and frailer, so I'm not convinced he'll ever complete them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I think he will - apparently he has actual script in hand and is in honest-to-god production. The road to production has always been Cameron's biggest challenge. Four sequels filmed at once in short succession will be the most fruitful time in Cameron's career, at least in the sense of sheer amount. Fruitful regarding quality, who knows. I thought Avatar was serviceable entertainment, but apparently it enthralled somebody out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,314 Posted September 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, mstrox said: New Zealand is a good place to be in the film industry right now. Talk about winning the pandemic lottery! They'll probably wrap 3, 4, and 5 before H-wood really gets up and running in full again. It's baffling to me that Spielberg and Jackson aren't actively working towards a NZ shoot for Tintin 2 in the next few months. Mocap production during COVID is such a no-brainer, and NZ have done a magnificent job suppressing the virus. They'll reap the benefits of major film production over the next few years. Plus it'll take another 2-3 years to complete the VFX anyway, and the cinema experience should recover by then. Gurkensalat, Edmilson and Holko 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 They'd have to do it with an entirely NZ cast and crew at this point. Film work isn't on NZ's list of valid reasons for travel (although I'm sure if palms are greased sufficiently enough, they can make it work - it does look like crew that was not quarantined in New Zealand was allowed to fly back in for Avatar). There's also the question of whether the companies think a Tintin sequel would be worthwhile, of course. When considering worldwide grosses, it looks like Tintin was profitable, but profitable enough for a sequel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Couldn't you film the actors in different cities, so long as they had a live feed of the other actor's performance? Guess it depends where Serkis and Bell are based (probably LA and London) but technology shouldn't be a barrier in this instance. If anything, the technology opens up the possibilities of filming remotely and separated, then stitching everything together at WETA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Tintin 2?! " Nooooooooooooooooooooooo - Darth Vader😵 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I really must go back and rewatch Avatar. I didn’t care for it when I saw it in cinemas but maybe it’s worth another go as I like pretty much all of Cameron’s work. I will probably go see 2 in the cinema regardless just to support a blockbuster that isn’t a comic book movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Bilbo said: I really must go back and rewatch Avatar. I didn’t care for it when I saw it in cinemas but maybe it’s worth another go as I like pretty much all of Cameron’s work. I loved it in cinema. When I rewatched at.home I was dumbstruck at its flaws! The spectacle covered up the weak script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Even when I saw it I could see it is an extremely ordinary story cloaked in some really boundary pushing CGI. Eventually that is why it was a cinema event in 2009, you hadn't seen FX at that level. I wonder if that still holds true today. Maybe Cameron is again going to push the boundaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,687 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I was drawn to the cinema, and was struck equally by the astounding visuals as I was by how utterly pants the story and characters are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Cameron has always been a great conceptualist. His scripts tend to be extremely derivative. But, I wouldn't miss his films for the world! Even his lesser efforts always contain brilliantly executed action sequences. He would be great for a superhero flick. Fyi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 968 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 3 hours ago, bruce marshall said: I loved it in cinema. When I rewatched at.home I was dumbstruck at its flaws! The spectacle covered up the weak script. I'm in total agreement. I always judge films on their 're-watch value'. I really enjoyed Avatar on first viewing, in the cinema. Couldn't even make it half-way through on the second. Which is sad because I've seen all of Cameron's other films at least 20 times. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 968 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 3 hours ago, bruce marshall said: He would be great for a superhero flick. Yeah. Or literally anything else. He's spending fucking 15 years on the same franchise - with nothing in between! The first two Terminator films were seven years apart but he managed to 'squeeze' Aliens and The Abyss into that gap. I have nothing invested in the Avatar universe - yeah it might surprise me and be amazing but Cameron is too interesting a filmmaker to literally put nothing out for years only to release 94 sequels to something that was ages ago and not THAT good anyway. I'm drunk and angry. Everything I've posted here tonight has been angry. Because I'm drunk and angry. Go away. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 My dream project.for JC. FANTASTIC FOUR based on the early Sixties Marvel Comics. Dream on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, LSH said: I have nothing invested in the Avatar universe - yeah it might surprise me and be amazing but Cameron is too interesting a filmmaker to literally put nothing out for years only to release 94 sequels to something that was ages ago and not THAT good anyway. Wasn't that long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Speaking of..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 As a Cameron super-fan, I've seen that show, Bruce. His list of guests is impressive, but alas, the series doesn't get out its potential. Mostly just general, surface observations about the genre and quick edits and snippets from the interviews. It's all very rushed. What I'd really like to see is a calm, unedited conversation between the guests -- like those between Cameron and Scott or Cameron and Spielberg. Like those Q&As you see on Youtube. bruce marshall and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 When I first started watching I thought " Almost all the top writers of SF are white men; how will they diversify the interviewees?". They did bring in some very good people who actually worked as writers and filmmakers. But, they also brought in folks who were ' tokens'. The time wasted on them could have been better spent on Spielberg, Lucas, Scott at al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Do non-white people consider science fiction "too white"? bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Will Smith doesn't. His wife? Maybe. 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I could have been without actors like Smith and Schwarzenegger in this. They very rarely have anything meaningful to contribute on the art form, anyway (beyond their profession). bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 14 hours ago, bruce marshall said: I loved it in cinema. When I rewatched at.home I was dumbstruck at its flaws! The spectacle covered up the weak script. Yeah, I noticed the uninspired script in the cinema. still. I’ll give it another go with an opened mind over Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12-Mile Reef 123 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Thor said: As a Cameron super-fan, I've seen that show, Bruce. His list of guests is impressive, but alas, the series doesn't get out its potential. Mostly just general, surface observations about the genre and quick edits and snippets from the interviews. It's all very rushed. What I'd really like to see is a calm, unedited conversation between the guests -- like those between Cameron and Scott or Cameron and Spielberg. Like those Q&As you see on Youtube. I had the same reaction to the series Thor but you should really check out the book that accompanied it. It has complete unedited transcripts of the one on one interview Cameron conducted with Guillermo del Toro, George Lucas, Christopher Nolan, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Ridley Scott and Steven Spielberg and they are absolutely fascinating. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Thanks! That's really what I enjoyed most about the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Yeah, I heard about the companion book, John. Certainly something I'd be interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Requested from my library. Where I got the DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 DVD?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 The DVD of the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Dee Vee Dee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Just watched the discussion about BLADE RUNNER... JC mistakenly called the replicants robots and androids. In fact they are genetically engineered humans- flesh and.blood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I still can't work out what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, The Big Man said: I still can't work out what they are. It's a Ridley Scott movie. If they don't bleed milk, they are not androids. 1 hour ago, bruce marshall said: JC mistakenly called the replicants robots and androids. Jesus Christ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 On 12/17/2020 at 11:28 AM, bruce marshall said: Requested from my library. Where I got the DVD. Request APPROVED ! I ❤ MY 😍LIBRARY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 FyiThe dvd has a bonus feature with extended interviews.😁 Don't know if they are as complete as in the book 20 hours ago, The Big Man said: I still can't work out what they are. It is confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 James Cameron says ‘Avatar 2’ is ‘100% complete’ and ‘Avatar 3’ is ‘95% complete' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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