Popular Post Nick1Ø66 4,711 Posted November 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, TolkienSS said: There's something inherently touching about a camera capturing a moment of scenic beauty in the real world. It affects the human part in your heart. I don't care how many millions they throw at it to create something I know is artificial. A painting is “artificial”. We know it’s artificial. but nonetheless many paintings, of scenic beauty and otherwise, have stirred the human heart. A camera is one way, but not the only way to capture the beauty of our world. Bayesian, crumbs, Naïve Old Fart and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 A good point, @Nick1Ø66. One could argue that all art is artificial, but, imo, "art" (if that is what it is) created within a computer, seems to be cheating, not to mention lazy. There's a lot to be said for good, old-fashioned practical effects, miniatures, and matte paintings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 989 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: One could argue that all art is artificial, but, imo, "art" (if that is what it is) created within a computer, seems to be cheating, not to mention lazy. I know the context in this instance is mainly about visual effects, but given some of the shit digital artists/painters get in the current internet landscape (especially now that AI art is on the rise), I would refrain from making such an overly general statement. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick1Ø66 4,711 Posted November 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: One could argue that all art is artificial, but, imo, "art" (if that is what it is) created within a computer, seems to be cheating, not to mention lazy. Ironically, this is what many artists said with the advent of photography. Chen G., Gabriel Bezerra and blondheim 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 No news on Franglen's score? Not heard a peep. Only a scoring session photo a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Who 919 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 He is going to be joining Djawadi, McCreary and a few other composers discussing fantasy scoring for the Ascap event. leeallen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,434 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 James Cameron Estimates He’ll Retire After 5 or 6 More Movies, Half Being ‘Avatar’ Sequels "I would have to train somebody how to do this because, I don’t care how smart you are as a director, you don’t know how to do this," Cameron said of passing the "Avatar" torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 407 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 I have never actually read or paid attention to James Cameron quotes, but Jesus does he sound full of himself. I'm pretty sure other directors can rip off eternal storytelling tropes to turn into overlong Exposés of the art department. JNHFan2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,957 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Yeah. What is that qoute. He just plain says that he feels he's better than everybody else. Not a fan. And if he takes 13 years to make one movies he'll have to live another 60 years to make 5. I don't think that'll work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 He's obviously talking about the technical aspects. I personally wouldn't mind a Cameron protege down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 407 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 He's talking about "passing the Avatar torch". It's hilarious actually. The guy takes one and a half decades to make a movie that's bland and a sequel that isn't even out yet, and the media talk about it like it's some sort of Bond-like franchise that needs "passing of the torch". JNHFan2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Perhaps he could "pass the torch" to Kathryn Bigelow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfinger 59 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Cameron has been full of himself for decades, so these comments shouldn't really come as a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 407 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Goldfinger said: Cameron has been full of himself for decades, so these comments shouldn't really come as a surprise. But after over a decade, his attitude should be more like "wow thank god this sh*t got made" instead of "I should really teach more people how to drag out production for years". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 As far as the effects are concerned, I thought that Weta was responsible, not Cameron. Yes, I know that Weta is working under his supervision, but Cameron is not the one "doing it". Weta is doing it. TolkienSS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,356 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 You know how it works in history where historians say, this and that king build this or that castle. Same here. Just the king himself is talking. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 wow james cameron is a megalomaniac i had no idea how are we just learning this mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 He's been a megalomaniac for the last 36 years There's a clip of the making of ALIENS documentary, where he berates the (British) crew for not getting some facehugger effect right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: He's been a megalomaniac for the last 36 years There's a clip of the making of ALIENS documentary, where he berates the (British) crew for not getting some facehugger effect right. Talk about a stretch. You call that berating? They weren't getting it done, he showed them how and how basic it was. No need for the hyperbole on a clip from 1985. MaxMovieMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenturnedblue 372 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 He would also use a nail gun to nail peoples cell phones to the wall if they went off on the set of Avatar Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 4 hours ago, NL197 said: Talk about a stretch. You call that berating? They weren't getting it done, he showed them how and how basic it was. No need for the hyperbole on a clip from 1985. There are far more respectful ways of doing things. Workers are not there to be abused, especially by someone who should be setting an example. 4 hours ago, greenturnedblue said: He would also use a nail gun to nail peoples cell phones to the wall if they went off on the set of Avatar Call that a stretch? That is nothing less than the wilful destruction of another person's property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxMovieMan 271 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 He does what he has to do to make epic movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,957 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 I was just looking at some of the ticket sales in the biggest cinema's in my country. They went on sale this wednesday. For the first 4 days of release, there have hardly been any tickets sold. A lot of the seats are available. With most big movies in the first 2 to 3 days half of the seats are reserved. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 There you have it, folks. It's a complete bomb. crumbs and JNHFan2000 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Mark 3,631 Posted December 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2022 I will boycott this movie because actors wearing a blue face is offensive and hurtful to the smurf community. It's also racist because they all have blue skin. Isn't there different skin colors of Na'vi on that planet that should have been included and represented? Furthermore I find it regrettable they didn't they take this opportunity to make the male Na'vi pregnant instead of the female. K.M. Ahead of the woke mob. Stark, Bayesian, TolkienSS and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Incidentally, as can be seen on the trailers, the water navi are lighter skinned than the land ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick1Ø66 4,711 Posted December 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2022 Sadly, I've gotten to the point where I wouldn't mind seeing some franchises fail, because I think they're doing more harm than good in their current form. But I want this film to succeed. I don't have anything invested in Avatar, and am not a particularly big fan, but Cameron has clearly poured his heart and soul into this, not to mention a good chunk of his life, and I respect his passion. At least it's not an assembly line movie, ala Marvel, and for that reason, and its ambition alone, I wish Avatar well. Bayesian, Not Mr. Big, WampaRat and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 407 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 On 02/12/2022 at 9:54 AM, MaxMovieMan said: He does what he has to do to make epic movies. He's one of those "icons" that deserve epic headlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Seeing this on the 13th, in IMAX. Can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Haven't seen the first one yet. Smeltington and TolkienSS 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Who 919 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 The weeknd seems to have written the end credits song. I heard a snippet on Twitter and saw this report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark 312 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 James Cameron is extraordinarily arrogant but he has the portfolio to justify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,957 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 First reactions are in and.... they are mixed. People praise the visuals & final act, but they say the story is (paper)thin and the characters could do with more developing. https://whatsondisneyplus.com/avatar-the-way-of-water-first-social-media-reactions/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LSH 968 Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, JNHFan2000 said: People praise the visuals & final act, but they say the story is (paper)thin and the characters could do with more developing. Is anybody seriously expecting any more than that? I'm not. And I'm still quite looking forward to seeing in the cinema. Gabriel Bezerra, leeallen01 and MaxMovieMan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 The Atlantic critic David Sims (and cohost of my favorite podcast) MaxMovieMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 407 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 "It's an Avatar movie" Another one of those eyeroll inducing attempts to make it sound like a whole Avatar universe and legacy exists because of one singular movie, and had always been planned to exist. This is reason number umpteen why Hollywood is just intolerable these days, the shilling and bootlicking of so-called journalists that requires certain areas of the brain to be permanently shut down, and just function as an echo chamber for the loudest celeb dumbass in the room, in this case James Cameron. Naïve Old Fart, MaxMovieMan, GerateWohl and 2 others 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 44 minutes ago, TolkienSS said: "It's an Avatar movie" Another one of those eyeroll inducing attempts to make it sound like a whole Avatar universe and legacy exists because of one singular movie, and had always been planned to exist. This is reason number umpteen why Hollywood is just intolerable these days, the shilling and bootlicking of so-called journalists that requires certain areas of the brain to be permanently shut down, and just function as an echo chamber for the loudest celeb dumbass in the room, in this case James Cameron. MaxMovieMan and Disco Stu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,434 Posted December 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 hours ago, JNHFan2000 said: People praise the visuals & final act, but they say the story is (paper)thin and the characters could do with more developing. If critics reacting on Twitter were a thing in 2009, this would've been what'd they tweeted after the first movie MaxMovieMan, JNHFan2000 and Gabriel Bezerra 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 6 hours ago, TolkienSS said: "It's an Avatar movie" Another one of those eyeroll inducing attempts to make it sound like a whole Avatar universe and legacy exists because of one singular movie, and had always been planned to exist. This is reason number umpteen why Hollywood is just intolerable these days, the shilling and bootlicking of so-called journalists that requires certain areas of the brain to be permanently shut down, and just function as an echo chamber for the loudest celeb dumbass in the room, in this case James Cameron. He's not wrong. MaxMovieMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 On 01/12/2022 at 6:38 PM, GerateWohl said: You know how it works in history where historians say, this and that king build this or that castle. Same here. Just the king himself is talking. Yes, and here he is (after the grosses are in): When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp.... GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 8 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Love that quote from Mr. Sims, whoever he is. Sounds like a film right up my alley! Can't wait until Tuesday morning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 "owns bones". I've never heard of that one. It's going to go into heavy rotation. Out of interest, does anyone know which cinema the premier was held in? All that the media says is "Leicester Square". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 If someone in my theater is slapping their seat, hooting, and screaming, they might skip themselves ahead a few spots in the Loud Person in a Movie Theater Order of Operations. No way I’d start with the side-eye. They’d at least get a “shut the fuck up,” might even progress immediately to getting an usher to shoosh em. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Do a Mickey Rourke, and offer them some of your popcorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 The Weeknd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Looks very predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, NL197 said: The Weeknd Avatr: The Way of Wter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Okay, this question may be dumb, but I understand that Avatar 2 is in HFR (Higher Frame Rate), as well as the 3D option of course. I want to see it with all the extras, e.g. The 3D, Dolby Atmos HFR etc. My local cinema lists it in Dolby Atmos 3D. But doesn't say HFR... Does anyone know if the film is in HFR for every version regardless? Or HFR is a special add on you have to find and choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenturnedblue 372 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 At my theater the HFR is separate than the "regular" showings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 In Australia the sessions are listed either 3D or standard, no mention of HFR at all. My understanding is only certain sequences are in HFR, but the bulk of the film is 24 FPS (probably everything that isn't a major action sequence with fast movement). I'd guess all versions of the film have this alternating frame rate, regardless of being in 3D or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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