Eric_JWFAN 11 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 According to this idiot. Check out the end if this review. http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=9C0DEFDB143BF932A25755C0A964948260 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I think he's kinda right. Williams' sound in that era was pretty consistent, even if he was consistently pumping out great scores. E.T., Superman, Star Wars and Indy are all clearly composed by the same guy. I mean, there are serious differences between those scores, yes, but they are still musically similar. The real question here is whether he's correct about the finale and the usage of Williams music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I don't really hear SW in E.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric_JWFAN 11 Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 How can anyone hear the Raiders march or anything from that movie and think E.T.?? Seriously the only thing these scores all have in common is their colorful orchestrations and overall elite quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I hear more TOD in ET than Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Nothing wrong with having an identifiable style. I disagree with the author that the scores are "not that different," as clearly Raiders, SW, and E.T. all explore new territories--but they are definitely unified by JW's stylistic tendencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 "Also, at the end of the film, there is an all-out assault on the emotions that depends, it seems, more on the rising volume of this music than on the events portrayed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,514 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Of course it sounds the same; it's all by the same person!Perhaps I should justify that: it feels the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 he should review nowadays music with most film having "Zimmerian library" music.And he kills one of the best music-images moments in cinema history.He probably was a resentful Jerry Goldsmith fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I got a good chuckle out of this final paragraph.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I don't really hear SW in E.T.Except for the fact that the first 5 notes of the Flying Theme and the Star Wars Main Theme are the same, I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 The guy forgot to mention The Empire Strikes Back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 This guy clearly has no knowledge of what he is talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 But seriously, many people have been saying the same thing for over 30 years. I can't see why every article stating the same opinion deserves to be mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I hear more TOD in ET than Raiders.And ROTJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Vincent Canby was a pretty good film critic, he can be allowed to be wrong from time to time.And he is wrong.E.T. does not sound like Star Wars or Raiders, ESB, Superman, or even Close Encounters.It's one of the reasons I love it so much is that it is so different than those. Yes at the end it is loud and glorious, but it's often quiet and intimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 It was Williams in his wierd strings stage, like Empire of the Sun etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 It was Williams in his wierd strings stage, like Empire of the Sun etc.You mean portamento? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I don't really hear SW in E.T.There's a direct quote of Yoda's theme in the score... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Yoda's theme is not in SW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Not yet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Yoda's theme is not in SW.It was Williams in his wierd strings stage, like Empire of the Sun etc.You mean portamento?I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Yoda's theme is not in SW.It was Williams in his wierd strings stage, like Empire of the Sun etc.You mean portamento?I guess Timestamps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 The real question here is whether he's correct about the finale and the usage of Williams music.He's correct.I got a good chuckle out of this final paragraph.KarolSometimes you just can't help laughing when people are that right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Williams himself admitted that he was kind of forced by Spielberg to overdo the finale. JW found it 'a bit shameless' - so it's not just the clueless critics who realized it might all be a bit too heavy labor; it is somewhere in either the Spielberg bio of Andrew Yule or Joseph McBride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnaud 6 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Well hurrah for shamelessness. Spielberg was right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Luckily the young at heart don't object to a spot of open manipulation and are more than happy to let the grumpy cynics of the world spoil movies for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Tell that to John Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 What do you mean? Williams' eager manipulation of soft sods like me has made him very rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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