Abel Korzeniowski's Romeo and Juliet (Replaced James Horner) - Sony Classic OST

[Jay 30987]

Amazon has the cover art now

Amazon UK (Release date October 7th): http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00CZ1TMWE/

Amazon US (release date October 18th): http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CZ1TMWE/

[ManofDestiny 62]

Wondering. What's wrong with Horner? Why replacing him?

In my opinion, James Horner is the first choice for this kind of romantic title.

[Marian Schedenig 6220]

Two possibilities:

1) They fired him for ripping off Prokofiev's R&J yet again

2) They hired him to rip off Prokofiev's R&J yet again and fired him when he didn't

[Jay 30987]

Well apparently Horner didn't write an especially romantic score, he wrote an action score in his classic 80s/90s style. Check out this thread:

http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=92203&forumID=1&archive=0

And scroll to / search for the posts by Kevin Costigan - he saw the film a few times with Horner's score in it and discusses it in the thread.

[JoeinAR 1851]

who is the able guy, he's gotta be low rent for sure.

I'd love to see Horner and Marian debate this whole plagerism thing that Marian insanely hangs onto, I'm sure Horner would utterly destroy him.

[Jay 30987]

Abel Korzeniowski is the up and coming Polish composer who scored Battle for Terra, Copernicus' Star, and A Single Man. Check out some of the videos posted of his work in the thread here:

http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18203

[KK 3251]

who is the able guy, he's gotta be low rent for sure.

Abel is an incredibly talented composer whose been climbing up the ranks, slowly, but surely. Glad he got a project like this, although saddened that it was at the cost of another Horner score.

[crocodile 6862]

I don't listen to stuff by people whose names I can't pronounce!

Karol

[ManofDestiny 62]

I know Abel is great. And I am looking forward to his work.

Just wondering why Horner was rejected. Everyone on earth know he would re-use his old works, it should be considered when they choose him.

[KK 3251]

Well apparently Horner didn't write an especially romantic score, he wrote an action score in his classic 80s/90s style. Check out this thread:

http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=92203&forumID=1&archive=0

And scroll to / search for the posts by Kevin Costigan - he saw the film a few times with Horner's score in it and discusses it in the thread.

[Jay 30987]

FYI: mastering of Romeo and Juliet CD has been finished last night. You'll be pleased, I promise

https://www.facebook.com/abelkorzeniowski/posts/10151840714364214

[Incanus 5569]

Great news! I can't wait to listen to this. Abel is an able composer.

[filmmusic 1249]

Wondering. What's wrong with Horner? Why replacing him?

In my opinion, James Horner is the first choice for this kind of romantic title.

Have you heard any of Korzeniowski's work?

Mainly A Single Man and W.E.?

edit: Oh,i guess you have. I saw your later reply.

Well, I would say Korzeniowski is the most ideal as it turned out for romantic dramas.

These 2 works are masterpieces!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10254]

Great news! I can't wait to listen to this. Abel is an able composer.

Urgh....

[Incanus 5569]

Great news! I can't wait to listen to this. Abel is an able composer.

Urgh....

Have you heard anything from him Stefan?

[Jonesy 55]

http://filmmusicreporter.com/2013/09/21/romeo-juliet-soundtrack-details/#more-20049

1. Juliet’s Dream

2. Forbidden Love

3. Queen Mab

4. The Cheek of Night

5. First Kiss

6. Trooping With Crows

7. A Thousand Times Good Night

8. Come, Gentle Night

9. Wedding Vows

10. Fortune’s Fool

11. From Ancient Grudge

12. Death is My Heir

13. Tempt Not a Desperate Man

14. The Crypt (Part 1)

15. The Crypt (Part 2)

16. Eternal Love

[Jay 30987]

Can't wait to hear it!

[Unlucky Bastard 7770]

Didn't Baz already make this movie?

[gkgyver 1643]

Please god, make this a melodic, orchestral score without random piano tingling and ambient sounds ...!

Thank you! Amen.

[Incanus 5569]

Please god, make this a melodic, orchestral score without random piano tingling and ambient sounds ...!

Thank you! Amen.

Amen!

[Jonesy 55]

Samples!

[Jay 30987]

Excellent!

[filmmusic 1249]

WOW! This sounds great!!

Especially "Forbidden Love"!!

[chuck 154]

Please god, make this a melodic, orchestral score without random piano tingling and ambient sounds ...!

Thank you! Amen.

Hear the samples?

[gkgyver 1643]

Not yet. But it seems I have to now.

[chuck 154]

You should.

[gkgyver 1643]

I'm on mobile, so I can't.

Whatever he wrote, I doubt it tops Nino Rota.

[Jay 30987]

Listened to the samples (on my mobile device ), and I liked what I heard a lot!

[chuck 154]

It's a meh.

[Koray Savas 2188]

Did this get delayed?

[crocodile 6862]

It might be. Because Horner's music was published by different company, there are some strange legal things going on. And this album being delayed is one of those things. At least that's what happened before.

Karol

[filmmusic 1249]

It might be. Because Horner's music was published by different company, there are some strange legal things going on. And this album being delayed is one of those things. At least that's what happened before.

Karol

What? Horner's Romeo & Juliet was pubished?

[Incanus 5569]

It might be. Because Horner's music was published by different company, there are some strange legal things going on. And this album being delayed is one of those things. At least that's what happened before.

Karol

What? Horner's Romeo & Juliet was pubished?

Even though the music is not published to the audience it still has a company behind it. No score was "published" per se.

Oh and quite like Korzeniowski's work. I need to hear more than those samples to make the final judgement but I am liking what I am hearing thusfar. Very much in the vein of his popular work.

[crocodile 6862]

It might be. Because Horner's music was published by different company, there are some strange legal things going on. And this album being delayed is one of those things. At least that's what happened before.

Karol

What? Horner's Romeo & Juliet was pubished?

I'll rephrase that. Rights to that score belong elsewhere and with projects like that there's some legal stuff that needs to sorted out first. Because, obviously, Horner probably had a contract and was about to release the album. And now the label is releasing the score, but the composer's change. It's a mess.

Karol

[Incanus 5569]

It might be. Because Horner's music was published by different company, there are some strange legal things going on. And this album being delayed is one of those things. At least that's what happened before.

Karol

What? Horner's Romeo & Juliet was pubished?

I'll rephrase that. Rights to that score belong elsewhere and with projects like that there's some legal stuff that needs to sorted out first. Because, obviously, Horner probably had a contract and was about to release the album. And now the label is releasing the score, but the composer's change. It's a mess.

Karol

Yup. Well and concisely put Karol.

[publicist 4635]

Well, i still hope Horner puts his album out...legally or less legally. This sounds like a project where we can stomach two versions for the same material.

[crocodile 6862]

I'd like that. Hopefully Prokofiev does a cameo as well.

Karol

[Incanus 5569]

I am sure Horner would not forget to invite him.

[publicist 4635]

Danger motif for the Capulets!

[crocodile 6862]

Anyway, Korzeniowski's score is available on iTunes as of now.

Karol

[filmmusic 1249]

oh, you beat me to it!

[Koray Savas 2188]

I want my CD dammit!

[crocodile 6862]

It's coming out soon, don't worry.

In the meantime, I've just noticed that there's a promo of his score to Fritz Lang's Metropolis on iTunes for free. The sound quality leaves a lot to be desired (it's from live performance) and it's not an entire score (which clocks around 147 minutes, I think), but I'd recommend checking it out, especially if you like his bigger scores. It's in the Podcasts section, strangely enough.

Karol

[scallenger 424]

WOW this score is great! Both this and his score to Escape From Tomorrow are my favorite scores this year! Although I won't lie that I am still curious to hear what Horner did.

And I did NOT know about his score he did to Metropolis! Its one of my favorite films! Must seek that out!

[filmmusic 1249]

Actually the main title music from A Single Man, is a movement from Metropolis!

The Crypt Pt.2 is one of the most heartbreaking pieces I've ever heard...

I coincidentally was reading this poem here (it was in a facebook status), when I was listening to the piece for the first time , and i cried my eyes out!

http://eleternoretorno.blogspot.gr/2005/06/pablo-neruda-die-slowly.html

[KK 3251]

It's nice enough for the ears I suppose, but a bit too derivative. I was expecting more.

It's a pity that Korzeniowski has been typecasted like this. The producers probably asked him to go in this direction, but unfortunately, the style's novelty is wearing off...

I'm working on my review of the score as we speak, expect it to be posted on Friday.

[crocodile 6862]

KK, he's no more typecast than Desplat, Marianelli, Powell, Zimmer, Elfman. Plus it's an replacement job did in about 6 weeks.

But you're right - it would be great for him to do something else. He said something about the dream to score an action picure.

Actually the main title music from A Single Man, is a movement from Metropolis!

It's the other way around actually.

EDIT: Oh no, wait. I read your post wrong, filmmusic.

Karol

[KK 3251]

KK, he's no more typecast than Desplat, Marianelli, Powell, Zimmer, Elfman. Plus it's an replacement job did in about 6 weeks.

But you're right - it would be great for him to do something else. He said something about the dream to score an action picure.

You're talking about composers with a massive number of films under their name. Similarities are bound to pop up. Even with that, Marianelli has great diversity in his oeuvre, as does Elfman (and maybe even Desplat).

My main point is, W.E. and Romeo and Juliet, being two vastly different films/concepts in setting, plot, and themes have received two barely distinguishable scores.

Of course I understand its a replacement job, it doesn't change what the music is (not to mention I've heard more exciting replacement jobs, even from Horner himself). It's disappointing to hear this reliance on these simple structures, whose novelty, as I said, is sadly wearing off. This is especially the case because we know Korzeniowski is capable of so much more.

But I digress. I understand the conditions Korzeniowski had to work in, but that doesn't mean I going to fall head over heels for this W.E. knock-off. I'm only describing it as I hear it, and I'll enjoy it for what it is.

[publicist 4635]

My main point is, W.E. and Romeo and Juliet, being two vastly different films/concepts in setting, plot, and themes have received two barely distinguishable scores.

Oh the irony. The same accusation that would have met the Horner score without any discernible doubt. Just that in Horner's case we would actually be offended if it didn't feature at least 4 or 5 trademarks.

[KK 3251]

I can't expect anything better of Horner. It's become an all-too exhausting fault of his really, no use in fighting it.

I CAN however expect much more of Korzeniowski, who has shown flashes of brilliance and diversity in his other greats, proving that this semi-Glass, drama material, as beautiful as it sounds, isn't the only thing he can churn out.

Also, in Horner's defence, he is known to at least try to diversify the application of his reused musical ideas.