bollemanneke 3,338 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 But Fiennes would have read it brilliantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 You know this? How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Dunno, I just... hear him deliver those lines lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Yates gets a lot of blame but I don't think Steve Kloves was such a great writer either. There's a bit in the Half Blood Prince screenplay where he changed Snape's line from the book "Don't call me a coward" to "Don't ever associate that word with my name again." Like what in the actual fuck man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 He should have changed it to: "Don't ever call me that word, which is not representative of who I am as a person". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 He never figured out how to make wand battles very interesting. Dumbledore vs Voldemort, Harry vs Voldemort. Standing in one place...You didn't like the battle between Dumbledore and Voldemort in OOTP? I kinda dug it. I really felt the intensity and thought it was neat when they cast ridiculous magic like a fire dragon and a tidal wave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Yeah that one was pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 That was wise spotting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Off-topic, but I thought the way that played out was how a battle between Yoda and the Emperor should have been in Star Wars. Matt C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I don't know how, but Yates somehow turned the beloved Molly Weasely "Get away from her you bitch!" scene from Deathly Hallows 2 lackadaisical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 He never figured out how to make wand battles very interesting. Dumbledore vs Voldemort, Harry vs Voldemort. Standing in one place...You didn't like the battle between Dumbledore and Voldemort in OOTP? I kinda dug it. I really felt the intensity and thought it was neat when they cast ridiculous magic like a fire dragon and a tidal wave.No, you're right, that is a cool one. I guess I was just thinking of the beginning where they're standing with the magic beam of light between them. They took that from GOF and then kept relying on it later, they do it a few times in Part 2, Harry/Voldemort do it a bunch. It's not that exciting, there's nowhere to go with it. At least in OOTP it sent loads of debris flying everywhere, but you do pretty much have to have spirits start coming out of the middle to make it interesting, or you just quit and switch to fire dragons and tidal waves. And the wand battles earlier in the Ministry were just characters shooting sparks at each other and making people fall backwards. Not much variety going on.I mean, Patronuses always look neat, the shield charm around Hogwarts in Part 2 was cool, but the only little bit of combat magic that I remember was where Kingsley did like some time reverse charm, froze a guy and then sent him back. They could have used more stuff like that, not just knocking people out but adding little effects. I felt like whenever people took out their wands it always ended up like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Yeah, that's some pretty boring magic duels right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Better than LOTR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Absolutely not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Funny guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Indeed you are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Data... [that was] NOT funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 It was not my intention to amuse you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I am unable to grasp such a basic concept as humour. This emotion chip may be the only answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 All right... Listen! At the first sign of trouble, I'm going to deactivate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Yates gets a lot of blame but I don't think Steve Kloves was such a great writer either. There's a bit in the Half Blood Prince screenplay where he changed Snape's line from the book "Don't call me a coward" to "Don't ever associate that word with my name again." Like what in the actual fuck man.I wish Michael Goldenberg had worked on more Potter films other than OOTP, like GOF and HBP. He knew how to condense and find the core of the story better, without OOC line changes like Kloves did. But then he did a horrible job on Green Lantern, so I digress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Um... Ecuse me? OOTP is THE example of how NOT to condense a story, he left out so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Um... Ecuse me? OOTP is THE example of how NOT to condense a story, he left out so much.He left out all the filler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 He failed to make the audience understand the gravity and complications of the prophecy. He completely botched Harry and Kreacher's relationship (tell me, why does Harry hate him in film 7?) He left out Mrs Weasley's boggart. He left out Cho and Harry's date. He messed up Snape's worst memory. Need I continue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Can't we just all agree that all the films are pretty average adaptations (minus the first two)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 As long as that means from film 4 onwards, you have my full support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 No. 3 too.It's a good film, but as an adaptation, it fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 In what way? I know that the stag thing wasn't explained, but other than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Film 3 only needs a few extra lines of dialogue to bring in the important aspects of the book that were left out.Film 4 onward are missing entire key scenes, and they more actively changed things (and characters) instead of just leaving stuff out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 In what way? I know that the stag thing wasn't explained, but other than that?It left out too much vital information that would have helped make a lot of things clearer not only in this film, but the later ones as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 No. 3 too.It's a good film, but as an adaptation, it fails.Huh? As film adaptations, the first two sucked because of their slavishly literal devotion to the source material. The third film finally felt like its own independent work free from the shackles of adherring to every last word-for-word detail. It was a true film adaptation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 To me, a good adaptation retains all the major plot elements and information that are found in the book. In that regard, the first two were the best adaptations. But there were not particularly remarkable films.POA, on the other hand, was not a particularly good adaptation, but was a good film.The following films were not really good adaptations nor good films. They were... OK, I guess. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 A good adaptation captures the spirit of its source without the need to adhere to redundant points that can be axed or simplified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Well, sure, some things can be axed or simplified, I'm not denying that. But removing stuff that it is essential to understand what's going on doesn't make a good adaptation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 They got rid of a lot of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I agree. Especially in OOTP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 After the first 3 it all went to hell!PJ clearly lost his mind and was just seeing dollar signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Why should things be simplified? What annoyed me most about Deathly Hallows was that the plot was made so incredibly simple. The result of that was a totally pointless Kings's Cross scene where Dumbledore seemed more drunk than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 After the first 3 it all went to hell!PJ clearly lost his mind and was just seeing dollar signs.Hehehe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Why should things be simplified? What annoyed me most about Deathly Hallows was that the plot was made so incredibly simple. The result of that was a totally pointless Kings's Cross scene where Dumbledore seemed more drunk than anything else.Because at its heart, essentially it's about "Harry has to beat Voldemort or else the world will go to shit". It needs to be stripped bare or else each film would run longer than The Cure for Insomnia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Because at its heart, essentially it's about "Harry has to beat Voldemort or else the world will go to shit".Yes, in the end, it's just Potter v Voldemort! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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