#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, Drax said: No American actors in Harry Potter! Zoë Wanamaker was in the first film as Madame Hooch, and she's American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 11 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Zoë Wanamaker was in the first film as Madame Hooch, and she's American. //convoluted explanation courtesy of COS Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 That's how the conversation usually goes. Someone says "No American actors in Harry Potter!", someone else brings up Zoe Wannamaker, then the first person comes up with some convoluted reason why she was acceptable. Use your brain, Cozzie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I don't use my brain, and I don't visit Potter forums. I present facts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I'm more comfortable with other people's guesses than your facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Why thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 What about Howard Shore? What's he up to nowadays? Conrad Pope must be itching for some work, especially now that stubborn John Williams fellow is conducting again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Whoard Shore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 On 1 februari 2016 at 7:55 PM, Stefancos said: I'm sure the directors, the producers etc find the music important. You and MSM are acting like presumptious fanboys. Yet they lack the insight to recognize the emotional impact of musical storytelling, which shows time and again. The composers should have it but choose to create their own world rather than respect the already carefully established musical identity of the series. Will you please back your opinions with some constructive arguments rather than committing cheap ad hominem falacies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 1 hour ago, MSM said: Will you please back your opinions with some constructive arguments rather than committing cheap ad hominem falacies? You first! Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timm6011 1 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I think the producer, David Heyman did care about the score. He was the one that tried to bring John Williams back but Yates wasn't flexible with his schedule. This is a quote from him "The question is will John Williams come back? I’m a huge fan of John Williams he did three of the scores and I think he is amazing. He came up with some of the themes that have carried on. We have talked to John Williams and a lot of it will depend on his schedule for [Harry Potter] seven part two. If we can make work , and that’s a big if, for his schedule and ours then yes." I wonder if they even asked John Williams this time around. I think he would do it, if asked, and if it fits his schedule, even though he is technically retired. I went to a concert with John Williams conducting and before the Harry Potter suite, the way he talked about J.K. Rowling's work, he really seemed to respect and care for the world she created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Didn't someone ask Williams about Potter 8 at a concert and he said he was hoping to return and finish off the franchise? Another internet story is Williams asked for a first cut by a certain date but Yates couldn't accommodate the timeline. Then you had Desplat saying Yates asked him to score Part 2 at the recording sessions for Part 1, almost as if he was pigeonholing the producers. Hard not to get the impression Yates didn't try very hard to get Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,278 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 To be fair, he had plenty of other things to worry about besides jumping through hoops to make John Williams happen. My guess is he was excited about the idea of getting Williams but not in any special way. Yates never came across as a director with any particular interest in film music as a narrative device, his movies always tending to value it more as a "mood generator." Any attempts at continuity from he and his composers were pretty weak...all the tracked music in HBP and DH2, the Possession "theme" reappearing in HBP, Hooper's bizarre choice to reprise the four-note Quidditch motif from Azkaban of ALL things. Umbridge's theme was alright, Desplat's attempts were okay....I like the Horcrux motif and the "Band of Brothers" theme as he called it, but still not that inspired. Lily's Theme got off to a good start but falls flat in the second half for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Yates is an idiot for not getting Williams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 What's wrong with Hooper's usage of the Quidditch theme? I think Umbridge's theme is useless, doesn't portray her character at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 The way Hooper used it. It sounds callow and milk-fed. A great piece reduced to it's most simplistic component parts. It's a good thing Hooper did not use more of Williams' themes. Because he's not talented enough a composer to do them justice. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 No offence, but isn't Williams's main strength that his themes are simple melodies and therefore very memorable? I know that he writes in a complex way, but isn't that one of his great talents? I think Hooper's usage shows that he doesn't understand the theme. because he uses the wrong part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 John Williams themes are far from simple. He's very good in creating melodies that catch the ear, but are actually quite complex musically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Yeah, like how a simple looking website has a lot of complex code in the backend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Just try to come up with a melody such as the Raiders march. There's far more too it then you would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 The odd thing is that I only know one other Hooper score, Andes to the Amazon, and it's better than his HP scores on every level, so he clearly CAN do more. Might mean he just misunderstood the assignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I do like "Dumbledore's Army" but the rest is pretty bland. The biggest weakness with Hooper's score wasn't the themes (which weren't great, don't get me wrong) but with the bland and directionless underscore. "ding ding string tremolo ding ding ding string tremolo ding ding" DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Very accurate description. His Amazon themes are better. Don't forget to mention the simplistic chords though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I really do like Fireworks. It was a great opener for the OOTP album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 So di I, until it was included in the HP5 credits, in the Wizard Wheezes scene AND looped in the HP6 credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 1 minute ago, bollemanneke said: So di I, until it was included in the HP5 credits, in the Wizard Wheezes scene AND looped in the HP6 credits. It was good enough to be repeated. Every time it plays, I'm like "yeahhh this is kewl". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Obviously Hooper was pretty impressed with himself for writing that cue. So much so, it basically became his very own self-anointed Hedwig's Theme! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timm6011 1 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Check this article out http://moviepilot.com/posts/3772083 It seems like this author just listed a bunch of random composers... And I really hate comments like this "Reznor and Ross consistently push the boundaries of a "typical" film score, choosing to break the mold rather than conform." Why is it such a crime nowadays to a have a traditional, orchestral film score. Does the author of that article really think a score like the one in Gone Girl fits in the Wizarding World. I feel like this is why film scores have become weaker over the years, people just want things that are "different" even if it is not very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Well isn't that basically Filmtracks' philosophy? Be original and surprise your audience, anything predictable/derivative is stupid? EDIT: Hans Zimmer? Never! Marianelli, why not? Desplat might do a fine job as well. Doyle would be my dream scenario. But then again, as the article states, film scores tell us about the essential emotional moments the characters/story experiences, and Yates is the director, so does it matter who composes? A guy who doesn't understand that you need music after Voldemort's defeat is going to mess up any score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 On 2/5/2016 at 8:04 AM, bollemanneke said: No offence, but isn't Williams's main strength that his themes are simple melodies and therefore very memorable? "Simple" is the wrong word here. To paraphrase Williams himself, he writes melodies that seem like they've always been there, that seem inevitable, but that he spent hours working on and are deceptively intricate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 44 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Well isn't that basically Filmtracks' philosophy? Be original and surprise your audience, anything predictable/derivative is stupid? Not really, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 The Filmtracks philosophy is anything that sounds like Zimmer gets two stars or less, melodic Williams scores get five stars but the more experimental ones get three or less... It's quite confusing at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Filmtracks reviews are irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Trent Reznor is the musical voice of this generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Fuck him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, Drax said: Trent Reznor is the musical voice of this generation. When is Kanye West going to break into film music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Just now, Koray Savas said: When is Kanye West going to break into film music? When he does, he'll match Gustavo in Oscar wins for his innovative, groundbreaking scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I prefer Beyonce and Jay-Z. To hell with this symphonic background elevator music. There are no words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timm6011 1 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 So, neither of the two projects Yates worked on since HP were by Nicholas Hooper, so I think it is safe to rule him out, given they were frequent collaborators before HP. He is currently working on Legend of Tarzan with Mario Grigorov. Is anyone here familiar with his work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 http://filmmusicreporter.com/2016/04/07/james-newton-howard-to-score-fantastic-beasts-and-where-to-find-them/ This makes me very very happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Hmm... Well he's certainly capable of writing 'magical' music. Let's hope Yates doesn't choose not to score all the scenes he could do a great job on. Is he gonna do all three? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 13 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Is he gonna do all three? No idea. I certainly hope so. I wanted him to score a Harry Potter film and was disappointed when he didn't, but this is even better because he can do his own thing and not have to take into account what Williams did like Doyle, Hooper and Desplat had to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Well, could have been worse I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 This is the best possible result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Yep, if not Williams, JNH would've been in my top 3 choices to do this. Debney or Danna would've been excellent choices as well. Let's just hope this isn't as dreary as Yates' Potter films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 I wouldn't hold my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Fantastic, go Jamie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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