#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Interesting article about some of Horners more undervalued scores (when it comes to non filmscore-buffs that is)http://www.rogerebert.com/balder-and-dash/james-horners-underrated-scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Set to replace CDs soon.Guess I'll have to buy the White Album again.(I mean Titanic!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 What would have been James Horner's next 3 projects revealed:Avatar 2 for James CameronHacksaw Ridge for Mel Gibsonand12th Man for Harald Zwarthttp://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/avatar-hacksaw-ridge-12th-man-an-unwritten-future/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Chilling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Another collaboration with Gibson was something I was looking forward to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Whaaaaaaat?! (from Filmtracks)Listen to this NPR interview with Antoine Fuqua about "Southpaw" (audio will be available at around 7PM Eastern Time): http://www.npr.org/2015/07/17/423899444/in-portrait-of-a-boxer-fuqua-takes-the-action-outside-the-ring Towards the end he's asked about James Horner, who he says composed the score to Southpaw for free. Then he mentions that he recently received the score for "The Magnificent Seven" which Horner composed from the script.Is this the first anyone has heard of this?http://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/forum.cgi?read=3028Could this be the fourth project that was being mentioned in Jay's post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlytoot 97 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Has everyone seen this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,270 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Whaaaaaaat?! (from Filmtracks)Listen to this NPR interview with Antoine Fuqua about "Southpaw" (audio will be available at around 7PM Eastern Time): http://www.npr.org/2015/07/17/423899444/in-portrait-of-a-boxer-fuqua-takes-the-action-outside-the-ringTowards the end he's asked about James Horner, who he says composed the score to Southpaw for free. Then he mentions that he recently received the score for "The Magnificent Seven" which Horner composed from the script.Is this the first anyone has heard of this?http://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/forum.cgi?read=3028Could this be the fourth project that was being mentioned in Jay's post?Wow! I wonder how much he wrote...I admit I'm a little skeptical and feel like he might be exaggerating there. Like it's more a suite of themes, but even that would be something. Either way, seems like Fuqua would be keen to somehow use whatever material Horner wrote in his honor. He speaks so highly of him in that interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 What an odd development Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Whaaaaaaat?! (from Filmtracks)Listen to this NPR interview with Antoine Fuqua about "Southpaw" (audio will be available at around 7PM Eastern Time): http://www.npr.org/2015/07/17/423899444/in-portrait-of-a-boxer-fuqua-takes-the-action-outside-the-ringTowards the end he's asked about James Horner, who he says composed the score to Southpaw for free. Then he mentions that he recently received the score for "The Magnificent Seven" which Horner composed from the script.Is this the first anyone has heard of this?http://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/forum.cgi?read=3028Could this be the fourth project that was being mentioned in Jay's post?Wow! I wonder how much he wrote...I admit I'm a little skeptical and feel like he might be exaggerating there. Like it's more a suite of themes, but even that would be something. Either way, seems like Fuqua would be keen to somehow use whatever material Horner wrote in his honor. He speaks so highly of him in that interview.Probably some demo themes/motifs that he mocked up and shipped to Fuqua. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 From the sounds of it, Horner seemed to have written more than a demo. Fuqua mentioned that Horner's music team brought the score to him in Baton Rouge, so it could be a full piano sketch of the score. And likely mock-ups of the main themes.A very interesting development indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 People talk a lot in interviews. It would be a rather peculiar act: writing a complete score without a movie at hand - no timings, no nothing - and then shipping your written 1000-page score to a director who by all accounts neither reads nor plays music. I say it's urban legend and Horner probably sent him something that could be the thematic germ of a heavily doctored score in a year or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Didn't Horner do the same for The 33? I think director Patricia Riggen said Horner presented her with the score as they wrapped shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 People talk a lot in interviews. It would be a rather peculiar act: writing a complete score without a movie at hand - no timings, no nothing - and then shipping your written 1000-page score to a director who by all accounts neither reads nor plays music. I say it's urban legend and Horner probably sent him something that could be the thematic germ of a heavily doctored score in a year or so.I listened to the NPR interview with Fuqua... it definitely doesn't sound like Horner just wrote a theme.http://n.pr/1Gr8IsG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Not sure if this has been mentioned at all on any of the Horner threads, but if you're in Dublin or able to go, then this should be a lovely concert. I've got my ticket.https://www.nch.ie/Online/RTECO-James-Horner-17Sep15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 People talk a lot in interviews. It would be a rather peculiar act: writing a complete score without a movie at hand - no timings, no nothing - and then shipping your written 1000-page score to a director who by all accounts neither reads nor plays music. I say it's urban legend and Horner probably sent him something that could be the thematic germ of a heavily doctored score in a year or so.We could be wrong on this—and I confess, I haven't listened to that interview yet—but I'm leaning more in this direction myself. Stories like this do tend to proliferate after the death of artists who were commissioned for, or are in the midst of, writing a new work. Again, that's not to say there might not be something to this . . . but it would very much surprise me (and, I'll admit, delight me) if this turned out to be more than a simple sketch or two of ideas Horner was thinking on during the earliest stages of the creative process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Yeah. All i'm saying is that how these Horner scores usually are synched to picture it seems very unlikely that this process works like Fuqua has described it. This isn't some 70's Morricone with 3 pieces looped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,973 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Unless Fuqua decided to take a Jupiter Ascending approach: temping the film with original music. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Baptiste Martin 249 Posted July 24, 2015 Author Share Posted July 24, 2015 eDIT FILMMAKER’S FESTIVAL: MASTER CLASS WITH JAMES HORNER CINEMA MUSICA: INTERVIEW WITH JAMES HORNER THE NAME OF THE ROSE: JAMES HORNER’S POETICS BAFTA GURU: A CONVERSATION WITH JAMES HORNER WOLF TOTEM: JAMES AND THE WOLF SOUTHPAW: FIRST LISTEN ANTOINE FUQUA: “JAMES HORNER WROTE THE MUSIC FOR MAGNIFICENT SEVEN” ALLEGRETTO: JAMES HORNER FILM MUSIC MAGAZINE AVATAR, HACKSAW RIDGE, 12TH MAN: AN UNWRITTEN FUTURE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Baptiste Martin 249 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 THE 33: FIRST SCORE SAMPLES20th Century Fox has released two clips, each containing footage from The 33, providing us with the first samples of James Horner's music.http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/the-33-first-score-samples/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Sounds neat. Southpaw was great, so maybe this will be another awesome sendoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 SOUTHPAW may have been great, sadly it wasn't music. This sounds at least like there have been musical considerations instead of sound design's 3rd limp leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post publicist 4,643 Posted September 19, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2015 On FSM this cool rare footage of James Horner conducting the long main title of SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES was posted: Muad'Dib, Dixon Hill and Incanus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Yea, its great! The footage actually starts in Part 4, at 5:18, though Horner doesn't show up until 7:04 Pre-English accent! karelm and Incanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,901 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Yea, its great! The footage actually starts in Part 4, at 5:18, though Horner doesn't show up until 7:04 Pre-English accent!Very cool to see. What a baby face he was but serious talent. Interesting that he doesn't have his accent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Check out the immortal Emil Richards doing his thing! Really cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I told you it was a fake Madonna accent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 A reverse Joss Stone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Check out the immortal Emil Richards doing his thing! Really cool.Back when he still did. Tidbit: in FSM he once told how Horner became pricklish when Richards wouldn't lend him strange ethnic instruments (without Richards playing them, that is) and never called him again. This behaviour seems quite frequent, thinking how he ousted Shawn Murphy from his merry gang. Would be interesting to hear why he may have acted this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Just rumors of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Obviously not, you fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Horner dismissed Murphy around the time when his mixing became really crap. I wonder if that had anything to do with it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Horner dismissed Murphy after he painstakingly recorded his most successful score over a period of many months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Titanic already sounds off in places. Maybe Horner saw the writing on the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 And then hired Simon Rhodes for the muddy catastrophe that is DEEP IMPACT, a sound that is exactly what Murphy later got his lashings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,973 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Maybe moody is the new clear?Karol fommes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Horner has always been notorious in the industry for being one of the most difficult persons to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 On FSM they said that he only used the English accent for interviews or public apperances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 What a ponce! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,901 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Horner has always been notorious in the industry for being one of the most difficult persons to work with.This is true - frequent stories of odd behavior. It seems like a recurring theme was brilliance, ego, shyness, and awkwardness. I think in retrospect with his tragic passing, pieces take on a bit more clarity in who he was but there are a few stories of rages in front of the orchestra, firing sections, and diva behavior from a very young age. A friend of mine knew him in high school and Horner was convinced from then that he would be a great composer and told everyone about it. It turns out he was right but that isn't an endearing quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Kitchen psychology tells me that he may have been too sheltered in his wunderkind tower and also that the mere fact of having to musically dress up so many inferior commerce products that ultimately ill-helped his reputation as brilliant talent - even if there were remarkable musical pieces in scores like PAGEMASTER or LAND BEFORE TIME, hardly anyone besides film music fans really took notice.So i guess he probably was - or felt - very isolated in his profession (compared to pragmatists like Goldsmith, who may have been grouchy but never antagonized people like that, as far as i'm aware). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 He seemed to maintain good relationships with most of his collaborators over the years so he couldn't have been that bad, could he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Yeah. Crawl to the bigwigs, bully the underlings. Old and proven principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Hmm, I should try it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,901 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I think a more constructive way to think about it is he had personality quirks/flaws that rubbed people the wrong way. These seem petty in context of the loss. During the grind and pressure on a production, the mundane annoyances and tiffs take on too much importance but are quickly forgotten given the significance of the loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 He's hardly the only composer to have such stories circulate about him, even though they may be more plentiful for him than others. It's a good bet that any field where people are involved (so... everything) will yield instances and rumors of difficult personalities. Not a big deal, really, even if it's habitual and genuinely obnoxious. Easy to just let it go. TownerFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Yeah. But we still need more juicy Horner stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Maybe I just wasn't paying attention, but I seem to recall and don't really get why he spoke about sitting in on the Star Trek: The Motion Picture recording sessions and digging it, then shit-talked Goldsmith's score in another interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 He insinuated over several interviews that he liked the more mysterious/impressionist parts but not the main theme (read: the Williams-inspired march approach). He did go on praising ALIEN in the same interview though and given his broad romantic approach on practically every big adventure movie he did we can only surmise that James Horner just wasn't a big fan of marches in these kind of movies but dug the strange, ethereal textures by Goldsmith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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