1977 1,743 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 On 5/5/2019 at 7:33 PM, JoeinAR said: Filmtracks credits Horner with more 5 star score in the modern era with one exception and one tie. Williams is the exception, Goldsmith is the tie. Interestingly those are my top 3 favourite composers JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 For many years, Torodd Wigum was the main co-conductor of "my" orchestra, Trondheim Symphony Orchestra, taking care of the orchestra when the principle conductor was out and about. A really nice guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 41 minutes ago, Thor said: That's OK. If it's possible, great. If not, that's OK too. At least you'll get the concert work out there. Yes, hopeful it can be performed more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 An album release is OK, as long as it's not complete! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Let it go please! Thor is perfectly entitled to his opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 That's OK - a Norwegian is unable to offend a Norwegian on JWFan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,262 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Any The New World score fans here? A few years ago one user on that now defunct forum posted an expanded edition for the score that combined the OST and a FYC released back then. It had some interesting material I haven't heard before, specially the supremely beautiful Nature and an expanded version of Rolfe Proposes. On the OST, this track ran for 4:30, but on the FYC it was expanded into two tracks, A New Life and again Rolfe Proposes, that together lasted almost 14 minutes. And there's this unreleased cue that I extracted from the film, which is not present neither on the OST nor on the FYC, and on which Horner heavily borrows from the opening of "The River Crossing to Stalingrad" from Enemy at the Gates (which by itself was already inspired by the Main Titles from Braveheart): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AyLHcQtcLnGIuN3THxLl-BQ15dEf0QEQ/view?usp=sharing It would be interesting an expanded edition with the complete recordings. We don't know how many hours of material Horner recorded for this movie, but while it's certainly more than what is on the OST, I guess it's probably less than the 5 hours Zimmer recorded for The Thin Red Line, so it can be released in 2 or 3 discs. Yeah, I know, the movie was released in December 2005, but anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 It has its moments. I like that one track with annoying bird sounds a lot. Nice ambiance in that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 41 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Any The New World score fans here? A few years ago one user on that now defunct forum posted an expanded edition for the score that combined the OST and a FYC released back then. It had some interesting material I haven't heard before, specially the supremely beautiful Nature and an expanded version of Rolfe Proposes. On the OST, this track ran for 4:30, but on the FYC it was expanded into two tracks, A New Life and again Rolfe Proposes, that together lasted almost 14 minutes. And there's this unreleased cue that I extracted from the film, which is not present neither on the OST nor on the FYC, and on which Horner heavily borrows from the opening of "The River Crossing to Stalingrad" from Enemy at the Gates (which by itself was already inspired by the Main Titles from Braveheart): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AyLHcQtcLnGIuN3THxLl-BQ15dEf0QEQ/view?usp=sharing It would be interesting an expanded edition with the complete recordings. We don't know how many hours of material Horner recorded for this movie, but while it's certainly more than what is on the OST, I guess it's probably less than the 5 hours Zimmer recorded for The Thin Red Line, so it can be released in 2 or 3 discs. Yeah, I know, the movie was released in December 2005, but anyway... I am the guy who made the combined FYC / OST album. I can't believe that was 8 years ago I did that. I titled that cue "Nature" because I didn't really care for the name "Forest Textures". Same with the cue "A New Life". I don't like the names "Rolfe Proposes 1" and "Rolfe Proposes 2" so I gave the former a new title. Just made sense at the time. Adding in the bird / vocal-less versions of cues as bonus tracks off the FYC seemed like the natural thing to do. Below is the custom back cover I'd done for the back of a theoretical CD years ago. Corellian2019 and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I had no idea there were versions that excluded the sound effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Yeah they're off the FYC, though if you play them at a loud volume you can still hear the birds. More dialed down very low than completely removed. Westenra's vocals are entirely removed on that FYC though. So basically it's like this: disc 1 1. The New World (OST version) 2. First Landing 3. Nature (Forest Textures on FYC) 4. A Flame Within 5. An Apparition in the Fields... 6. Journey Upriver 7. Of The Forest (Bird Demo on FYC) 8. Pocahontas and Smith (FYC has slightly longer oboe intro) 9. Forbidden Corn 10. A New Life (Rolfe Proposes 1 on FYC) 11. Rolfe Proposes (Rolfe Proposes 2 on FYC) disc 2 1. Winter (edit of the OST track to give it an ending) 2. The Battle (edit of both OST and FYC tracks, combining them together for an extended version) 3. All is Lost 4. A Dark Cloud is Forever Lifted 5. Listen To The Wind 6. The New World (FYC version) 7. Forbidden Corn (FYC version) 8. Rolfe Proposes (OST track) 9. All is Lost (ending taken from FYC) 10. A Dark Cloud is Forever Lifted (FYC version which cuts the opening piano intro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,262 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 53 minutes ago, NL197 said: I am the guy who made the combined FYC / OST album. I can't believe that was 8 years ago I did that. I titled that cue "Nature" because I didn't really care for the name "Forest Textures". Same with the cue "A New Life". I don't like the names "Rolfe Proposes 1" and "Rolfe Proposes 2" so I gave the former a new title. Just made sense at the time. Adding in the bird / vocal-less versions of cues as bonus tracks off the FYC seemed like the natural thing to do. Below is the custom back cover I'd done for the back of a theoretical CD years ago. Wow, thanks, you did a really great job on the score! I really appreciate the versions without those annoying birdsongs, and I love the new additions Nature/Forest Textures and the extended Rolfe Proposes. The movie utilizes the former on a small scene featuring Smith and Pocahontas when the indians are bringing food to the British colony, and the latter extensively on the second half, when she thinks Smith has died and marries Rolfe. The FYC is great, but I do wish Horner included the cue I posted above somewhere. Yeah, it's a new version of The River Crossing to Stalingrad, but I love that track from Enemy at the Gates, so the more the better . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,317 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 6:12 onwards SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 46 minutes ago, Bellosh said: 6:12 onwards That cue is in the running for best thing the guy ever wrote. The whole score has what it takes to be a symphonic concert staple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jean-Baptiste Martin 246 Posted August 5, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2020 For the past six months, James Horner Film Music has embarked on an exciting new phase in its charter to celebrate and preserve the legacy of James Horner's career that I've been reluctant to share here, being somewhat apprehensive of the varied responses it might yield. However, not presenting it here denies a potential audience important news and opportunities that I think is worthy of your consideration. James Horner’s disappearance has left a void. Yes, his music remains but the problem is that we no longer have his new music that used to rock our lives month after month, year after year. We no longer have the excitement of new projects. We don’t have the interviews that revealed the other side of the story and the creative process. James Horner Film Music has been trying since 2015 to solve this problem, to fill this void by bringing the composer’s work to life. We want to relive the excitement, the joy of discovery. Since 2018, following our visit to his studio, we have embarked on several ambitious projects: Organize a concert with several rare and almost unknown concert works on 7 May 2021 in Sczecin, Poland. Collaborating on a new video documentary short about James Horner, which will premiere as part of the concert experience in Szczecin. Recording and releasing an album featuring the rare, almost unheard concert works. Write a reference book on the composer to be published in English and French. The book is being written after two years of data collection. All living directors have been contacted for an interview. Thus the book will present the unpublished testimonies of Roger Corman, Walter Hill, Nicholas Meyer, Christopher Cain, Jean-Jacques Annaud and many others. Numerous correspondences have been made with the composer’s closest collaborators and family in order to tell the story of his career in the most accurate way possible. 150 interviews of the composer (including about fifteen unpublished or rare ones) have been collected in order to offer the most complete description of his career. For several months now, many people have been supporting the projects and following their progress, while benefiting from new and exclusive content. If you're interested in joining them, please visit: https://www.patreon.com/jhfm James Horner Film Music is offering an opportunity to dive into the heart of our projects, see what goes on behind the scenes, get to know us better, experience our news live and access exclusive digital content. For our part, we want to deepen our relationship with you and offer you more and more content. If you, too, want to be more familair with our endeavors and who we are, if you believe in our work and want to nurture and foster it in the long term, then please join us on Patreon. We have already published on our Patreon page about forty articles with images, unpublished videos, audio excerpts from A Forest Passage, the table of contents and excerpts from our book... And our patrons have come together on Discord (a modern voice & text chat app), which is a place of sharing for fans of James Horner’s music. In the nine years since James Horner Film Music was established, we've accomplished a great deal, having shared nearly 300 articles about the music of James Horner. But there is still so much more to do in the service of properly honoring our beloved maestro's legacy. The contributions of our patrons will be used to finance our projects: rights to use images for the book, filming and editing costs for the documentary, developing the concert events, and an uncountable host of other activities necessary to continue this work. If you have enjoyed our work in the past and want to contribute to its future, we hope you will consider becoming a patron. Visit https://www.patreon.com/jhfm; with your help, we'd love to see you at a concert, CD release, or book event! Bayesian, TSMefford and SteveMc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,306 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Wow!"Eight months between posts! Was there ever any official memorial or funeral service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SteveMc 2,674 Posted November 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2020 Henry Sítrónu, crocodile, KK and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 On 11/17/2020 at 9:59 PM, SteveMc said: what a gem! I think no Horner recording session footage in the DVD era was that long and interesting! SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,042 Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 There's a documentary about Horner coming out in June! Curiously, this trailer for it doesn't use any of Horner's music SteveMc, karelm, bollemanneke and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Probably too expensive to license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 On 11/17/2020 at 12:59 PM, SteveMc said: Looks like Steven Spielberg playing the violin at 5:23 crocodile and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,448 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Jay said: "The Greatest Composer"? What the actual? In his own head, maybe. Jurassic Shark and bollemanneke 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Clearly its the opinion of the filmmakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bounty95 548 Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: "The Greatest Composer"? What the actual? In his own head, maybe. I'm used to people calling Hans Zimmer the greatest composer, so the video isn't that offensive. Edmilson, TSMefford, Smeltington and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,262 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Yeah, this "The Greatest Composer" was very weird, and felt wrong. I'm a Horner fan and I don't think he's the greatest composer of anything! Maybe the greatest composer named James (sorry JNH). bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 It's a perfectly fine thing to say for a documentary made by fans. I think it's clear from the trailer this is not exactly a super professional production made by objective journalists. Bilbo and bruce marshall 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,448 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Bounty95 said: I'm used to people calling **** ****** the greatest composer... Don't you EVER say his name! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: "The Greatest Composer"? What the actual? In his own head, maybe. You sick bastard! You're the kinda person who makes this a terrible world to live in! bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,448 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,935 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 I would very much like Something Wicked This Way Comes to get a complete re-release. Karol bollemanneke and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 All three of the Horner scores that didn't get OSTs at the time of release, but Intrada later debuted using abridged & arranged albums (Honey I Shrunk The Kids, The Journey of Natty Gann, Something Wicked This Way Comes) would make very welcome complete and chronological releases, IMO bruce marshall and Yavar Moradi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,308 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Oh, I thought he was suggesting a title for a JW documentary at first. I for one would prefer 'they're all dead'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,262 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 From Horner I believe Willow is the more urgent expansion. Bounty95 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Why is it "urgent"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Put this on right now bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I don't think the labels draw up a chart of every score that exists ranked by "urgency" then do them all in that order. They license what they can license, they get elements when they show up, each project takes a different amount of time, each approval process is completely different from one another. Stuff just comes out when it's ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I'd rather get the score for Captain EO and the THX trailer score recording sessions than Willow bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 7 hours ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: I'd rather get the score for Captain EO and the THX trailer score recording sessions than Willow Absolutely. It's amazing how seemingly every thread here turns into a discussion of expansions wants. There's still a considerable list of completely unreleased Horners, CAPTAIN EO being one of them. I did a thread over on FSM charting these unreleased gems (I haven't updated it in a while, so some corrections might be in order): https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=114840&forumID=1&archive=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Doesn't this stuff all sound like star Trek II? bollemanneke and bruce marshall 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 The labels try just as hard to do completely unreleased scores as they do longer albums for scores that had one already. Sometimes the stuff that never came out is just harder to get a license for, or the elements can't be found or whatever else. Them working on an expansion isn't an indication that they consider it more "important" than a completely unreleased score. They do what they can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 23 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: "The Greatest Composer"? What the actual? cringeworthy indeed and I'm saying this as a Horner fan! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,457 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 James Horner's Spider-Man, should I go there or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 I thought it was boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 It's really good! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Jamezzzzzzzzz Horner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,262 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Horner's Amazing Spider-Man is not as good as his adventure scores from the 80s and 90s, but is still a decent score. It's basically a mix between A Beautiful Mind and the action music from Avatar. The movie, on the other hand, is horrible. Probably one of the worst movies he scored. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,420 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 52 minutes ago, Bespin said: James Horner's Spider-Man, should I go there or not? I'll make it easy. Yes! Go there! Bespin and Jurassic Shark 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,222 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 55 minutes ago, Bespin said: James Horner's Spider-Man, should I go there or not? Definitely, it's a really great score and the main theme is super catchy too (although I have to admit that I think that Giacchino's captures the character better to some extent, Elfman's is great, but perhaps a bit too epic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,306 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Bespin said: James Horner's Spider-Man, should I go there or not? Listen to me on this: his last great score and the movie is way above average for a super hero film. Ignore the other comments. Joe Brausam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,457 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 I don't know if it's been asked before, but according to experts, what are the "best" expanded scores of James Horner? Not best in terms of your favourite ones, but which are the best in the sense that they bring so more much to the listening experience or the representativity of the score, comparing to the OST experience, so that they are kind of "essential". A top 5, a top 10? Tell me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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