Composer Threads The Official James Horner Thread

[Henry Sítrónu 494]

11 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said:

Interesting LA Times interview with JH from 1995… https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-02-13-ca-31547-story.html

Horner’s mood is joking but sometimes severe, especially when the orchestra members begin chatting between takes.

“I don’t think they do that with John Williams,” Horner says of the orchestra’s restlessness after work for the day is done, “but they do that with me. It’s a little bit of the age thing--I’m the same age as some of them, or younger than some of them, and don’t have the credits John does. I like to use young people because I find for the most part they’re very responsive and the mold hasn’t been set yet.”

 

[Bespin 8,480]

The latest addition to my CD collection.

 

[Jay 37,336]

One of my favorites

[Bespin 8,480]

Slowly but surely reconstituing the last part of Horner's legendary career.

 

[DangerMotif 1,037]

 

James Horner referred to the danger motif as the ‘diddly dah’s’

[Jay 37,336]

It's not clear that "us" in that sentence includes Horner. 

[WampaRat 1,105]

Listened to The Perfect Storm for the first time in a while. There’s some terrific terrific music in that one. I’ve forgotten how much soaring action it contained (and how sad I am that he isn’t around to do Avatar 2). 

 

While it’s still written in his unmistakable voice, it doesn’t seem to directly lift from his prior scores. At least nothing really jumped out at me. High time for an expansion (along with Mask of Zorro!)

[NL197 368]

7 hours ago, Gibster said:

 

James Horner referred to the danger motif as the ‘diddly dah’s’

 

For proper context. 

[Jay 37,336]

Doug Fake has posted that "several" Horner titles are in the works at Intrada

 

https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/sc.13/category.60330/.f

[Edmilson 7,424]

[Tallguy 3,381]

What do we want? What's out there that should be expanded?

[Jay 37,336]

I can't speak for anyone else, but the James Horner scores I'd most like to see get the specialty label treatment are

 

The Hand (1981)

The Pursuit of DB Cooper (1981)

Brainstorm (1983)

Uncommon Valor (1983)

Volunteers (1985)

Sneakers (1992)

The Mask of Zorro (1998)

The Legend of Zorro (2005)

Avatar (2009)

The Amazing Spider-man (2012)

[Laserschwert 475]

Mask of Zorro and Perfect Storm, please!

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

The Amazing Spider-Man would be such an absolut treat

[Edmilson 7,424]

24 minutes ago, Jay said:

Sneakers (1995)

 

Sneakers was released in 1992, not 95.

[Bespin 8,480]

I would vote for Brainstorm, I don't own this score on CD, I always waited for a proper release.

[Jay 37,336]

Just now, Edmilson said:

Sneakers was released in 1992, not 95.

 

Fixed!

 

Just now, Bespin said:

I would vote for Brainstorm, I don't own this score on CD, I always waited for a proper release.

 

Varese Sarabande has perpetuity rights, so Intrada can't do that one.

[Bespin 8,480]

Well, I'll perpetually wait!

[Edmilson 7,424]

The Mask of Zorro and The Perfect Storm are long overdue for an expansion. It'd be great if it was one of them. The Legend of Zorro may be off limits since it is a late-2005 movie.

[Mr. Who 919]

This is great news! I really hope that they do a 2 score release of both Zorro scores!

[Yavar Moradi 2,593]

37 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

What do we want? What's out there that should be expanded?

A lot of the more recent Intrada Horner expansions (*batteries not included, Apollo 13, Balto, An American Tail, The Land Before Time…) have been of Universal Music-owned (often MCA) original albums.
 

So I’m thinkin’ these might be possible…

An American Tail: Feivel Goes West (MCA)

We’re Back! (MCA)

Dad (MCA)

The Man Without a Face (Philips, also UMG-owned)

The Pursuit of D.B. Cooper (Polydor, also UMG-owned)

A Beautiful Mind (Decca, also UMG-owned)

 

But Intrada also did some recent Horner expansions from Sony (Jumanji, Legends of the Fall) so stuff like The Spitfire Grill, To Gillian on Her 37th Birthday, Deep Impact, Freedom Song, The Perfect Storm, Enemy at the Gates, The Four Feathers, The Missing, Sneakers, or the Zorro scores could also be possible.

 

Of course it could also be an expansion of a Hollywood Records (Disney-owned) title such as Mighty Joe Young.

 

Or who knows… maybe a premiere! The sky’s the limit really…

 

Yavar

[Corellian2019 386]

The Pelican Brief and Vibes, please!

[Thor 7,490]

No expansions for me, please, but there's a slew of premieres I'd like to see:

 

https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=114840&forumID=1&archive=0

[Tallguy 3,381]

Since we're all just guessing, Volunteers would be pretty cool.

[Trope 526]

I would love expansions of Bicentennial Man and Deep Impact. I know they're full of recycled Horner-isms, but they're just so good! 

 

Imagine just having eaten the best meal of your life, and then the chef comes out and proceeds to ask if you would like several more helpings, with only a few ingredients swapped around. You'd be a fool to refuse!

[Jurassic Shark 12,051]

Not if you're full.

[Trope 526]

2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Not if you're full.

Good point! Let's say the chef offers to let you take the extra helpings home so you can eat them when you have your appetite back.

[Jurassic Shark 12,051]

But then it will be cold and I don't have a microwave oven. 

[GerateWohl 4,349]

You should buy less CDs and more microwave ovens.

 

But maybe it's sushi anyway.

[Jurassic Shark 12,051]

I think the microwave oven is an analogy for a CD player here.

[GerateWohl 4,349]

So, you were actually saying, you don't have a CD player.

 

You should buy more CD players.

[Jurassic Shark 12,051]

4 minutes ago, GerateWohl said:

So, you were actually saying, you don't have a CD player.

 

I do, but it's occupied with the other Horner CD.

[GerateWohl 4,349]

3 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

I do, but it's occupied with the other Horner CD.

If you had one CD player for each CD you would save the effort of changing CDs.

 

[Jurassic Shark 12,051]

That's my goal in life.

[SyncMan 314]

A CD release of 'Volunteers' maybe a miracle to pull off. You, @Jay , shared with us news on the situation with that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[GerateWohl 4,349]

24 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

That's my goal in life.

Goals are important.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,511]

17 hours ago, Tallguy said:

What do we want? What's out there that should be expanded?

 

Fucking BRAINSTORM!!!!!!

[Bespin 8,480]

I approve that choice!

[Edmilson 7,424]

2 hours ago, Trope said:

I would love expansions of Bicentennial Man and Deep Impact. I know they're full of recycled Horner-isms, but they're just so good! 

 

Both of those would be amazing choices. 

 

In fact, I'd love expansions of pretty much anything Horner wrote post-Titanic and pre-2005, it's my favorite era for him.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,511]

2 hours ago, Bespin said:

I approve that choice!

 

I approve your approval.

[Yavar Moradi 2,593]

2 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

Fucking BRAINSTORM!!!!!!

 

If only Varese didn't control this one in perpetuity...

 

Yavar

[Tom Guernsey 2,282]

22 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said:

 

If only Varese didn't control this one in perpetuity...

 

Yavar

Given that the OST is, if I remember rightly, a re-recording, does their rights holding extend to the original film tracks too?

[Jay 37,336]

Yes, they do (according to something I read on FSM once anyway, I forget who posted it there or how to find the post now)

[Yavar Moradi 2,593]

2 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said:

Given that the OST is, if I remember rightly, a re-recording, does their rights holding extend to the original film tracks too?

 

They do indeed, confirmed multiple times by folks at other labels. And a former Varese employee (Peter Hackman) confirmed trying to pursue a Deluxe Edition while at Varese, but someone apparently shot it down.

 

Two other 80s scores which Varese controls in perpetuity due to their specific licensing agreements despite releasing re-recordings rather than the original tracks: Miklos Rozsa's Eye of the Needle (though the superior original recording was luckily released as an isolated score track on the Twilight Time Blu-ray) and Danny Elfman's Pee-Wee's Big Adventure.

 

Yavar

[Tom Guernsey 2,282]

Just now, Yavar Moradi said:

 

They do indeed, confirmed multiple times by folks at other labels. And a former Varese employee (Peter Hackman) confirmed trying to pursue a Deluxe Edition while at Varese, but someone apparently shot it down.

Thanks both, I figured that was the case but thought I'd ask anyway! Shame. Wonder why someone shot it down (unless it was James Horner himself, but this seems unlikely) as I think it would be a good seller and is a very well regarded score. Oh well, we can but hope... if nothing else, the OST could use a bit of a remaster.

 

1 minute ago, Yavar Moradi said:

Two other 80s scores which Varese controls in perpetuity due to their specific licensing agreements despite releasing re-recordings rather than the original tracks: Miklos Rozsa's Eye of the Needle (though the superior original recording was luckily released as an isolated score track on the Twilight Time Blu-ray) and Danny Elfman's Pee-Wee's Big Adventure.

 

Yavar

Varese do at least seem to have picked up on doing expanded editions again (even if the production quality has been variable at times) so we can only hope these get some attention eventually.

[Jurassic Shark 12,051]

Anybody likes this album?

 

[Thor 7,490]

8 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Anybody likes this album?

 

It's OK. Different enough interpretations to make the "evergreens" interesting.

[GerateWohl 4,349]

8 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Anybody likes this album?

 

No.

[NL197 368]

9 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Anybody likes this album?

 

 

Eww. Not at all. 

[Tom Guernsey 2,282]

11 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Anybody likes this album?

 

Is it similar to the Hans Zimmer one with various artists doing random interpretations? I have to admit that I quite liked that one, but overwrought/pop-infused versions of Hans Zimmer's music work in a way that I'm not sure I'd enjoy with James Horner's.