Popular Post Jean-Baptiste Martin 254 Posted May 14, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2023 To celebrate the one year anniversary of the concert, the video of Spectral Shimmers is now available. Henry Sítrónu, Yavar Moradi, Faleel and 6 others 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted May 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2023 On 26/4/2023 at 1:07 PM, Trope said: I would love expansions of Bicentennial Man and Deep Impact. I know they're full of recycled Horner-isms, but they're just so good! yes, the unreleased parts in Deep Impact (first part of the movie) are soooo good. Piano, Synths, bass … gosh I love this stuff. leeallen01, Edmilson, Trope and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post karelm 2,913 Posted May 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2023 It is crazy to imagine if James Horner were still alive, he would only be 69. He would probably still be a major figure in the scoring world. In contrast, Silvestri is 73. Zimmer is 65. Elfman is also 69. James Newton Howard is 71. JTN, Yavar Moradi, Bespin and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Yeah... Actually I have mixed feelings about how I feel about his death, partly because I feel some of my feelings are selfish in that since I never met him, I feel like I'm mourning music I'll never get to hear rather than the human being, father, husband, etc, that I never knew. Certainly I think that's a loss for me and the world, but after seeing his studio and his family talk about him and just generally learning more about him as a human being, then yes, I think my feelings are perhaps superficial. Just some random weird thoughts. Then again, I can't deny the joy his music gave me, so perhaps its not so selfish to mourn the fact that the person responsible had died. I have a vivid memory of first learning about the plane crash as I was stepping into a taxi, while checking out Facebook - I think Intrada's page was where I first saw the news, and my heart just sank. It really felt like a punch in the gut. It wasn't clear then if he had been in his plane, it was just confirmed that his plane had crashed. And I saw some posts on Facebook from people a little angry that his death was alluded to at least prematurely and felt there was a chance someone else was flying his plane... but I never held such hope, and then it was confirmed maybe an hour or so later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Horner gets a couple of shout-outs and praises in this video, particularly this one and one near the end It's not anything out of this world, but hey, it warms my heart to see Horner remembered. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted May 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2023 I met him in Vienna and to this day I feel sad and stupid that I had nothing better to do than asking him to sign the concert brochure. I wish I would have told him that his music was part of my childhood and youth and growing up. Then again, I’m sure he got to hear that plenty of times before… JTN, Kasey Kockroach and karelm 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,383 Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 9 hours ago, karelm said: He would probably still be a major figure in the scoring world. I'm not sure that he felt that he would have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,434 Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 I still remember what I was doing when I first saw the news: listening to Georges Delerue while browsing Facebook, then I saw the news on Variety. When it was confirmed, I understood exactly what fans feel when their favorite rock/pop stars die, particularly when they die young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 It's one of those moments where most of us remember where we were at the time. I woke up from an SMS ticking in on my phone. It was from a rather distant acquaintance of mine that has some interest in film music, and he had woken up earlier and seen the news online. I quickly got up and rushed to the laptop to read more, in a rather shocked, half awake state of mind. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,383 Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Yeah, I had just moved across the US with my wife and kids, we were living with my parents while we shopped for a house, and my grandmother was in hospice (she would pass away a week or so later). Then I read the news about Horner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,282 Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 I was on cruise in the Mediterranean and we were in Rhodes and I'd logged onto the wifi of a cafe while having a drink and I saw an email from, I think, BSX which said "remembering James Horner" which initially I just thought was just a bit of a strange email heading and then I read more... not gonna lie, I cried. I know we'll never quite know how we'll react to things, but it seemed far more of a shock than, say, when Jerry died. Guess the age and manner made it feel all the worse. Anyway, I gave this cheeky little number a spin today... pretty much of a patchwork of 80s Hornerisms without a defining "thing" to make it stand out, but if the worst thing you can say is that it's a patchwork of 80s Hornerisms, it's not so bad. Tallguy and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 On 15/5/2023 at 5:49 PM, karelm said: It is crazy to imagine if James Horner were still alive, he would only be 69. He would probably still be a major figure in the scoring world. I have doubts that would have been the case. He had noted in the early ‘10s that film scoring needs were shifting away from his aesthetic. I seem to recall around the time of The Amazing Spider-man him saying that he was either surprised or lucky to have gotten the job and that his future gigs appeared to lie with small pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,434 Posted May 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, Bayesian said: I have doubts that would have been the case. He had noted in the early ‘10s that film scoring needs were shifting away from his aesthetic. I seem to recall around the time of The Amazing Spider-man him saying that he was either surprised or lucky to have gotten the job and that his future gigs appeared to lie with small pics. If he was alive, worst case scenario he still would've done at least the Avatar sequels. I don't think Cameron would've chosen anyone other than Horner to score them - even without Horner, he turned to his second in charge. Tallguy, JTN, mrbellamy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Edmilson said: If he was alive, worst case scenario he still would've done at least the Avatar sequels. I don't think Cameron would've chosen anyone other than Horner to score them Ah yes, you’re right about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 I recall reading he had signed on for a few movies. One was The Wall, the Matt Damon Great Wall of China movie. I haven’t seen it but it had fantasy elements so that and the setting could have made for an epic score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 1,037 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 41 minutes ago, pete said: I recall reading he had signed on for a few movies. One was The Wall, the Matt Damon Great Wall of China movie. I haven’t seen it but it had fantasy elements so that and the setting could have made for an epic score He said he was going to compose the score for hacksaw ridge on record mrbellamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Here's the source for The Great Wall. http://filmmusicreporter.com/2016/09/08/james-horner-revealed-as-original-composer-for-the-great-wall/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 The end credits of Hacksaw Ridge have Horner’s name “in memoriam”. Not sure about Great Wall though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 4 hours ago, pete said: I recall reading he had signed on for a few movies. One was The Wall, the Matt Damon Great Wall of China movie. I haven’t seen it but it had fantasy elements so that and the setting could have made for an epic score That would have been great. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,003 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 It’s interesting because James Horner passed away relatively young, yet he has such a rich and full body of work that I somehow don’t feel that he could have done much more, because he already did so much at such a young age. He’s kind of like Mozart who, at just 35, left behind an enormous amount of work. Horner thankfully was a very prolific composer as well who, had he retired at the age of 50, still would be regarded as one of the best film composers with many classic scores under his belt. With all that said, I miss his “voice” very much and he’ll always be one of my favorite film composers whose CDs I often listen to and collect. Tom Guernsey and karelm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,434 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 10 hours ago, DangerMotif said: He said he was going to compose the score for hacksaw ridge on record Hacksaw Ridge could've been such a great score in his hands. Kinda like a new Enemy at the Gates or Windtalkers. JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 7,493 Posted May 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2023 1 hour ago, JTW said: It’s interesting because James Horner passed away relatively young, yet he has such a rich and full body of work that I somehow don’t feel that he could have done much more, because he already did so much at such a young age. He’s kind of like Mozart who, at just 35, left behind an enormous amount of work. Horner thankfully was a very prolific composer as well who, had he retired at the age of 50, still would be regarded as one of the best film composers with many classic scores under his belt. With all that said, I miss his “voice” very much and he’ll always be one of my favorite film composers whose CDs I often listen to and collect. As we alluded to earlier in this thread, there's a LOT of unreleased Horner material out there, so we hopefully have a lot of "new" Horner to look forward to, even though he's passed away. By the way, speaking about Horner projects that were in the making before his passing, another was the Norwegian war film THE 12TH MAN directed by Harald Zwart (Horner previously collaborated with Zwart on the NEXT KARATE KID movie). I don't think he ever wrote anything for it, and it ended up being scored by Christophe Beck (who I interviewed in 2017 here, about that project and other things). Yavar Moradi, karelm and JTN 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DangerMotif 1,037 Posted July 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2023 https://newsroom.ucla.edu/stories/james-horner-archive-ucla-library enderdrag64, crocodile and LSH 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 968 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, DangerMotif said: https://newsroom.ucla.edu/stories/james-horner-archive-ucla-library Man, I'd kill for a few hours with all of that. MikeH and Trope 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,826 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, DangerMotif said: https://newsroom.ucla.edu/stories/james-horner-archive-ucla-library Ok, good news I guess, but it's so difficult most of the times for someone to have access to these scores collections, that I don't see the point why they are held in universities. I guess only people who live in LA will have access on site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Quote Man, I'd kill for a few hours with all of that. Indeed. Especially the completely unreleased stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,913 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 20 hours ago, DangerMotif said: https://newsroom.ucla.edu/stories/james-horner-archive-ucla-library I'll go check it out once it's accessible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyncMan 314 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Of particular interest is that UCLA's Royce Hall presents one LTP concert every November, courtesy of the Amercian Youth Symphony Orchestra. Since 2015, their LTP concerts have all been from the production company 'Film Concerts Live', probably because one of the orchestra's board members, Steven Linder, is the co-founder of FCL. In November 2019, the American Youth Symphony Orchestra presented the 'Apollo 13' LTP concert. The article says that the Horner collection will be available to researchers in the fall. I am wondering whether UCLA, the American Youth Symphony, and FCL will get together to present an LTP concert of a film featuring a Horner score this November as a way to inaugurate the collection--for awareness and/or fundraising opportunities. Definitely a good way to spend a week-long vacation for a film-music fan--studying composer's scores for days and caping the final evening with an LTP concert. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 On 15/07/2023 at 9:25 AM, karelm said: I'll go check it out once it's accessible. I plan to do the same if I return to visit LA. But if you beat me to it, I'd love to know the slates for Vibes and The Pelican Brief! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderdrag64 624 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 On 14/07/2023 at 12:45 PM, filmmusic said: Ok, good news I guess, but it's so difficult most of the times for someone to have access to these scores collections, that I don't see the point why they are held in universities. I guess only people who live in LA will have access on site. Actually it looks like they offer free digitization services: https://www.library.ucla.edu/about/policies/lsc-duplication-and-copyright-policies/ filmmusic and Jay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,055 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Poor UCLA library staff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neumation 12 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: Poor UCLA library staff... They won’t copy a complete score for free and the copies they provide aren’t very high quality—they are iPhone pics. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,055 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 That's not very professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neumation 12 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 It’s not ideal, but they have moved in the right direction for accessibility. For awhile, it was impossible to get copies. It’s a great benefit to film music scholarship to have even meh quality copies, given how short staffed they are. The other university across town should take a leaf from UCLA in that regard… enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Corellian2019 386 Posted August 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2023 Kino Lorber just announced that a 4K release of Sneakers is coming soon. Perhaps it'll coincide with an expanded score reissue? Jurassic Shark, enderdrag64, JTN and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 48 minutes ago, Corellian2019 said: Kino Lorber just announced that a 4K release of Sneakers is coming soon. Perhaps it'll coincide with an expanded score reissue? Would be awesome! Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post michael_grig 471 Posted August 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2023 Yesterday James Horner would have turned 70. As a small tribute I made a reduction of "Casper's Lullaby", one of my favorite pieces by him: Bespin, Tallguy, 1977 and 2 others 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,383 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Such a lovely score. Such a terrible movie. Damn, I didn't realize how much of that time and place I had stored up in that tune. Ouch. I didn't know it was his birthday. But I listened to The Perfect Storm anyway. Yavar Moradi and MaxMovieMan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 21 hours ago, Tallguy said: Such a lovely score. Such a terrible movie. Agreed. Not even President Whitmore could save it Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,383 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Thinking back to 1995 - It was an interesting time Hollywood-wise. They were trying to make the next blockbuster but they weren't trying to make the same blockbuster. The effects industry was becoming more than just "ILM and then everyone else". And James Horner and Jerry Goldsmith were movie score rockstars. MaxMovieMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,434 Posted August 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2023 1995 was by far the best year in James Horner's career. Braveheart, Apollo 13, Casper, Jumanji, Balto... He was on fire during the 90s. enderdrag64, MikeH, Tallguy and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1983 was, by far, the best year in James Horner's career. SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES KRULL TESTAMENT BRAINSTORM THE DRESSER GORKY PARK UNCOMMON VALOR... He was on fire, in the 80s Tallguy and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,598 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I think he's got other years that even compete with those two great ones... I don't know that I could declare *any* year in his career "by far the best". Yavar Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: ...he's got other years that even compete with those two great ones... Yavar 1982! 1984! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 968 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I’ve always divided Horner’s career into two sections. Pre and post Titanic. Easy as that. I think it’s quite a good spot to begin noticing stylistic tendencies either side. You can sub-divide obviously. For instance, 1991 to 1997 was a huge leap in his thematic ‘lushness’. Can’t think of a better word right now. His action music went up a notch during that era too. One of my favourite sub-eras, shall we call it. But there are others. MaxMovieMan and Trope 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,383 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 16 hours ago, LSH said: I’ve always divided Horner’s career into two sections. Pre and post Titanic. Easy as that. I think it’s quite a good spot to begin noticing stylistic tendencies either side. That's hard for me to pick that as the line because in 1994 / 1995 he did Apollo 13 / Legends of the Fall / Braveheart. All very much in the Titanic mode. Of course you could draw that line as to where he got a lot richer. MaxMovieMan and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Horner's career can be divided into two sections: "1982 - 1986", and "Everything Else". Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,434 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Yeah, I agree that it is hard to pick a best era for Horner, because overall he was consistently great from 1982 to 2005. Sure, there were some high and lows during this time, but everything was still mostly great. After that there were some stuff that weren't as good as before (Apocalypto, Avatar, etc) but judging by Wolf Totem he could've gone through a reinassance if he hadn't played pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,383 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 38 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Horner's career can be divided into two sections: "1982 - 1986", and "Everything Else". An American Tail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, Tallguy said: An American Tail? To quote Max Kalba: "What of it?". Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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