Incanus 5,818 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Oh it's clearly a reworked version of his Amazing Spiderman theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 The best Horner theme in years. Second best, actually, the best is that spanish lament in CRISTIADA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,876 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 This got nothing on Balto's theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Baptiste Martin 260 Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 French teaser from Wolf Totem, James Horner's score included.And on Dec. 8, 2014, French trailer from Wolf Totem to include more James Horner's score!http://youtu.be/vEBQ-qEavmw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 So when's the score coming out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,647 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 James Horner explains why he didn't score Amazing Spider-Man 2:http://comicbook.com/2014/12/07/james-horner-explains-why-he-didnt-score-the-amazing-spider-man-/“[Director Marc Webb] was very inexperienced and he and I had a very good relationship and the producers had their own opinion,” Horner explained. “And they didn't want his input. And then Sony had their own, they just wanted action.”"To me, the whole thing about doing the movie was I liked the director and there was a chance to write something for the two lead characters and then she dies in the next movie,” he said. “But the next movie ended up being so terrible, I didn't want to do it. It was just dreadful.” At least Horner has good taste in movies. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,755 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,876 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Too bad he didn't get a chance to ask him about Ender's Game; would have been interesting to know some more details on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Too bad he didn't get a chance to ask him about Ender's Game; would have been interesting to know some more details on that."It looked so bad, and I didn't want to do it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,741 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Perhaps he left because of Orson Scott Card's controversial statements on homosexuality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 966 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 "To me, the whole thing about doing the movie was I liked the director and there was a chance to write something for the two lead characters and then she dies in the next movie,” he said. “But the next movie ended up being so terrible, I didn't want to do it. It was just dreadful.”At least Horner has good taste in movies.Nice way of retrofitting an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 At least Horner has good taste in movies.He still scored the first one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,445 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Which was an OK movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,870 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Jerry hated The Mummy so much, he refused to score Imhotep's return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 He didn't object to BAD GIRLS, KING SOLOMON'S MINES and THE SWARM so this amounts to a hearty 'whatever'. I'm sure that if Sommers hadn't treated him like shit on this he never would have uttered a word. And i don't think he would have scored MUMMY RETURNS, being too weak for another mammoth blockbuster score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,445 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Too weak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,870 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 He didn't object to BAD GIRLS, KING SOLOMON'S MINES and THE SWARM so this amounts to a hearty 'whatever'. I'm sure that if Sommers hadn't treated him like shit on this he never would have uttered a word. And i don't think he would have scored MUMMY RETURNS, being too weak for another mammoth blockbuster score.Being too weak didn't stop him from scoring Star Trek Nemesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Which obviously wasn't a really huge score compared to the workload of a MUMMY sequel with 2 hours of music and lots of last-minute editing. And from what i remember, reports of him being visibly weakened throughout the NEMESIS sessions indicated that he wouldn't be around that much longer in recording studios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,610 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I'm sure that if Sommers hadn't treated him like shit on this he never would have uttered a word. Do we know that? Or is it just an assumption?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,445 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 The Mummy Returns is a 2001 film while Nemesis is late 2002.Goldsmith was healthy in 2001. He even did concerts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I'm sure that if Sommers hadn't treated him like shit on this he never would have uttered a word. Do we know that? Or is it just an assumption?KarolSecond-hand, yes. Sommers was not only director but also producer on this. As i understood the grapevine he agreed with Goldsmith on spotting and Goldsmith wrote a score accordingly. After the fact, when Goldsmith was already in London recording the score Sommers demanded a substantial amount of additional music and Goldsmith had to write them in a haste in his hotel room which must have been a stressful experience - the way this whole matter was handled soured JG so he declined to do any further work with Sommers (remember, post-production changes are not unusual in Hollywood so there must have been an additional fuckup here). The Mummy Returns is a 2001 film while Nemesis is late 2002.Goldsmith was healthy in 2001. He even did concerts.I don't know in what universe a man diagnosed with colon cancer and leukemia undergoing chemo is considered healthy, but i'm sure it is not inconceivable that he wasn't too keen on doing huge and demanding blockbuster scores after 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,445 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I believe Goldsmith was in remission at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,870 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I thought he only had colon cancer. I didn't know he had leukemia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 He was a seriously ill former chain-smoker who died only two years later (scoring NEMESIS, i mean) and was undergoing steady treatment from 2000 on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard P 4,267 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I'm sure that if Sommers hadn't treated him like shit on this he never would have uttered a word. Do we know that? Or is it just an assumption?KarolSecond-hand, yes. Sommers was not only director but also producer on this. As i understood the grapevine he agreed with Goldsmith on spotting and Goldsmith wrote a score accordingly. After the fact, when Goldsmith was already in London recording the score Sommers demanded a substantial amount of additional music and Goldsmith had to write them in a haste in his hotel room which must have been a stressful experience - the way this whole matter was handled soured JG so he declined to do any further work with Sommers (remember, post-production changes are not unusual in Hollywood so there must have been an additional fuckup here). What's never made sense to me is what the additional music was. There's nothing in the film that strikes me as overscored, and AFAIK the album has no alternates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 It's 95 minutes of score, that leaves room for 20 minutes unaccounted by the spotting sessions. And who knows what changes were demanded beyond that. The better question: why are we discussing it in a thread dedicated to the appreciation of, of all people, James Horner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,610 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Because they were friends? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,870 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 To absent friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,755 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I'll get us back on topic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Yeah, i want that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,308 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Sounds good! That's trailer music at the end right?I don't love the theme, but this score sounds promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,610 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I need this in my life.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,610 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Horner's Pas de Deux Double Concerto for Violin and Cello will get an album release next year (according to James Horner Film Music).Here's the trailer: Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,755 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,445 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Horner at his most English! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,818 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Well it is very Horner, this new piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,445 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 It sounds good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,818 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 And Horner can't resist recycling his accelerating fanfares from Rocketeer and The Amazing Spiderman for this one. Sounds very good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,445 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 It's called reimagining! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,818 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 It's called reimagining!It is recycling, keeping the world a better place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,445 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Jamie has gone Green! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,818 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 He has been in the vanguard of Green all these years. A pioneer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,445 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Ridiculed he was, but he saw the cutting edge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 They should put this logo on his OSTs: John Dutton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Hope there's more to it than those very cinematic excerpts. And that Górecki rip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dutton 7,502 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 His hairline is receding! Time to shave it all off, tan and get buff, Horner!So he rips off his own score for The Rocketeer and this passes as some new concert piece from the composer of legendary scores for Avatar and Battle Beyond the Stars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,308 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Yeah, that Gorecki rip was a bit heavy handed. And it sounds a bit too much like film music, and his usual fare. Hope there's more to it though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,445 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Sounding like film music is not a bad thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 No, but if he's writing a piece of concert music, which is rare for him, I'd rather hear something that I can't hear by listening to any number of his film scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,445 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Maybe he doesnt know how to write outside that mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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