publicist 4,636 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I say: it's middle-of-the-road Silvestri, there are countless better scores in which you should invest first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 32,105 Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 Would people recommend this score a person who only knows the music through the magnificent choral finale. Does the rest of the score contain equally engaging (if not as dramatic) material?I think so, yes. There's great action cues, good suspense and exploration cues, fun music for the water tentacle's appearance, and a perfect buildup to that choral finale. Check out the samples on Varese's site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,097 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I say: it's middle-of-the-road Silvestri, there are countless better scores in which you should invest first.Which are?Is Blown Away one of them, by any chance?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,636 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Rather. ABYSS is not bad, but Silvestri and Goldsmith/Horner, two composers this score also draws from, have done this kind of stuff better on a lot of other occasions. It's all a bit by the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 322 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Would people recommend this score a person who only knows the music through the magnificent choral finale. Does the rest of the score contain equally engaging (if not as dramatic) material?I think so, yes. There's great action cues, good suspense and exploration cues, fun music for the water tentacle's appearance, and a perfect buildup to that choral finale. Check out the samples on Varese's site!I agree with Jason it definitely is a good score to own though.Publicist if you don't have Back To The Future that's another I'd recommend getting. Intrada's release for that is perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,636 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 What a major offence, to insinuate i wouldn't have BTTF!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,256 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I have it, listened to it once. Regret forking over the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 322 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 What a major offence, to insinuate i wouldn't have BTTF!!!!! Well I wasn't sure... I have it, listened to it once. Regret forking over the money.Are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,256 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Yep. Great theme. Nothing much there otherwise. Most dissapointing purchase for years. A holy grail thats only a holy grail because it wasnt available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,636 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Without hesitation i would say i prefer VAN HELSING as complete score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,256 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Silvestri didnt know how to orchestrate in the 80's I think. Even though he used big orchestra's, the result always was a bit thin and weedy.If you compare that to later works like Judge Dredd and The Mummy Returns.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,097 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Without hesitation i would say i prefer VAN HELSING as complete score.Oh I truly hate this one. Horrible score.Silvestri didnt know how to orchestrate in the 80's I think. Even though he used big orchestra's, the result always was a bit thin and weedy.If you compare that to later works like Judge Dredd and The Mummy Returns....Maybe, but it works in favour of some of his works - like Predator, for instance. Very economic approach works wonders here.Oh and he still doesn't orchestrate, by the way! Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,256 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I could never get through Predator either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,636 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 There's hardly a Silvestri score that needs that excessive length outside the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,097 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Why are we talking about albums all of a sudden?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,636 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 You are going to buy one, aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 468 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Without hesitation i would say i prefer VAN HELSING as complete score.Oh I truly hate this one. Horrible score.Silvestri was repeatedly instructed to 'ramp it up' at the sessions, so I don't think you'll ever get a sensible interpretation of this one.The album is dire - it omits so much of the softer material (such as it is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,097 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 The Abyss? Yeah, I haven't got the original album.But we were talking about orchestrations and stuff and how Silvestri wasn't that well-versed in the subject back in the 80's...Without hesitation i would say i prefer VAN HELSING as complete score.Oh I truly hate this one. Horrible score.Silvestri was repeatedly instructed to 'ramp it up' at the sessions, so I don't think you'll ever get a sensible interpretation of this one.The album is dire - it omits so much of the softer material (such as it is). Yes, that's the thing. It starts big and nothing ever changes, themes always in the same key and always forte fortissimo. I actually like the finale cue, with those ghostly vocals, but otherwise this is a train wreck.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,636 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I like VAN HELSING. No awards for subtlety, but it's just a fun meat platter.And croc: you don't necessarily need THE ABYSS only because Varése just released it deluxe. Orchestrations or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,097 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I don't need any score ever in life, if we're to be honest.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,771 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I need them all!Much of Silvestri's Abyss is a bit skippable, but I've always adored the almost magical and ethereal material (!) at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,636 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I don't need any score ever in life, if we're to be honest.KarolBe careful what you wish for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,097 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Too late...Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 322 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I only get what interests me. I'm not like a lot of other people where they buy EVERY album from the labels that's released. What's the point of buying something you're not interested in and or not going to listen to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,450 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 To have it! He with the most scores wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 322 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 To have it! He with the most scores wins.To me that's just hoarding and a waste of money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 32,105 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 Humor. It is a difficult concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,450 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Trent's got like a 0.312 lifetime of getting my sarcasm. He won't get this one either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,771 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I must possess ALL or I possess NOTHING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 2,639 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Van Helsing is easily the dullest Silvestri score I've heard (but I also hate what I've see of the movie). The quieter material not on the album is beautiful though. I believe that was a case of the album having to be prepared before that was recorded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I'll be all over this one. The movie remains one of my favorites among Cameron's repertoire, and the score is fantastic. I've been wondering for years when someone would get around to it. (I'm one of those who's truly interested in the missing material, Jason.)- Uni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 32,105 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 The glimpses of never before heard material in the samples on their website are fantastic. That alternate Crane Crash cue was freaking awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 468 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Sold out at Colosseum (as are Vibes and Runaway). Still available at Varese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 322 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Sold out at Colosseum (as are Vibes and Runaway). Still available at Varese.I wonder how many copies Varèse still has for The Abyss. Don't they sometimes list how many copies are left?This long wait for them is killing me. I really want to hear The Abyss bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,219 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Yes they update the site with quanties when they get low. That's why I'm not in a rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 468 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Yes they update the site with quanties when they get low. That's why I'm not in a rush.The inexact science of adding a large quantity to my shopping cart at Varese tells me that there are 1311 available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 322 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Yes they update the site with quanties when they get low. That's why I'm not in a rush.The inexact science of adding a large quantity to my shopping cart at Varese tells me that there are 1311 available.Make that 1,179 copies available. I don't think this will be around to much longer. So don't be to surprised if it sells out in a couple of months.Using your method I did the same for Star Trek Nemesis and there's 3,036 copies still left of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 201 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Glad to see it's selling well. It should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 322 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Well this thing ships next Monday along with the other releases. I'm looking forward to The Abyss the most. Star Trek Nemesis I've heard countless times via the boot. I'll only listen to a couple of cues from Nemesis before getting it onto my iPod. Specifically a couple of the alternates and the two cues that were left off the boot "Allegiance" and "The Mine (Revised)". Then I'll dive (no pun intended) into The Abyss, this is one I'm eagerly waiting to hear the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,771 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I'm eager to hear all of Nemesis on my hi-fi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 322 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I'm eager to hear all of Nemesis on my hi-fi.I bet that'll be nice. Although didn't you have the boot for Nemesis? I guess it's not the same if you had just the mp3 version of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,771 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I'm eager to hear all of Nemesis on my hi-fi. I bet that'll be nice. Although didn't you have the boot for Nemesis? I guess it's not the same if you had just the mp3 version of it...Shh! I'll get into trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,256 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Do you own officially unreleased copyrighted material? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,771 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Do you own officially unreleased copyrighted material?No, officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 322 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Apparently two people on FSM reported they got shipping notification from Varèse today about their club purchases. Has anyone from here gotten a confirmation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 201 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 322 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I haven't either...wonder if some really went out today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,771 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Varese staff slept in again this morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 322 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Maybe they didn't get them until very late last night, who knows. I got my shipment notification (along with tracking) from Todd at Varèse about 31 minutes ago. Since it's today they were going out I might not have them until Monday, maybe Tuesday at the latest.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 201 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I got my shipping notification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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