Lurker 5 Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 Just a quick heads up that Attack of the Clones has been nominated for a major award. You can read all about it here.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 how well deserved too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 I love these awards. Especially when you note that there is a potential Oscar nominee in the pack (Christopher Walken).Jeff -- who thinks Swept Away was tons worse than Crossroads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFKevin 0 Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 Jumped for joy at this news, didn't you Neil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted February 10, 2003 Author Share Posted February 10, 2003 Jumped for joy at this news, didn't you Neil?I actually couldn't care less. I just wanted to post that the film was noiminated for several awards. I never said what awards they were. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFKevin 0 Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Ahhh, regardless.Personally, I think it's pretty damn ridiculous. It may not be an excellent movie, but the WORST of 2002? Come on. Stealing Harvard? Blue Crush? Swept Away? Pluto Nash? Ecks vs Sever? Please. Obvious bitterness involved or a lack of seeing other movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskobolus 3 Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 It was probably had the smallest success to anticipation ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf 4 Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Yet it made 300 + million dollars....hmmm, dangerous and disturbing this puzzle is... It was probably had the smallest success to anticipation ratio.So true...I so anticipated full frontal nudity from Natalie Portman...and I didn't get it! I was so disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYPHER 1 Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 The Razzies obviously nominate movies that either deserve the criticism or can survive with it. There's no point in dumping on small-budget films made by inexperienced film-makers. It's far kinder and much more fun to ridicule films that at least had something going for it e.g. big budget, tons of advertising and hype, world-famous singers turned actresses, actresses turned singers turned actresses or being a prequel in the most famous film series of all time ... and yet still managed to stuff it up. CYPHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren 75 Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 yeah, i heard that on tv last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Yet it made 300 + million dollars....hmmm, dangerous and disturbing this puzzle is... so, Grease was a big hit in its day, but like mononucliosus, it refused to go away, and then there was the blockbuster called Armageddon, and another big hit Blair Witch Project. All were vomit. AOTC isn't that bad.And neither was the afoar mentioned Blue Crush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 :spiny: For once I not only agree with Joe but strongly agree.Although I found Armageddon a non-serious, fun and amusing flick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted February 11, 2003 Author Share Posted February 11, 2003 Grease was a big hit in its day, but like mononucliosus, it refused to go awayBut Joe, Grease is the time and the place and the motion and Grease is the way we are livin'!Neil - Grease is the word, is the word , is the word , is the word , is the word , is the word , is the word , is the word , is the word , is the word , is the word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Grease was a big hit in its day, but like mononucliosus, it refused to go awayBut Joe, Grease is the time and the place and the motion and Grease is the way we are livin'!Neil - Grease is the word, is the word , is the word , is the word , is the word , is the word , is the word , is the word , is the word , is the word , is the word from this quote of Neil's you can dissearn 1 thing, like the song from Styx, Neil has... Too Much time on my hands, too much time on my hands, ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted February 12, 2003 Share Posted February 12, 2003 As much as I dislike elements of AOTC. This is silly, worst film of the year? Give me a break. One of the worst films? Well that's another story. Justin -Wondering where Home Alone 4 is!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted February 12, 2003 Author Share Posted February 12, 2003 Justin -Wondering where Home Alone 4 is!! On television, mercifully.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dole 17 Posted February 12, 2003 Share Posted February 12, 2003 I'm just happy George Lucas and Natalie Portman received nominations. The fact that a 4 time (?) Academy Award nominee with an endless amount of resources can't write or direct decently is upsetting. And Natalie is beautiful but her acting is like something straight out of a junior high school production of Hamlet. But I agree that AOTC shouldn't be listed as one of the 5 worst films of the year. There were several others that were far worse.Dole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2003 Share Posted February 12, 2003 Yet it made 300 + million dollars....hmmm, dangerous and disturbing this puzzle is... It was probably had the smallest success to anticipation ratio.So true...I so anticipated full frontal nudity from Natalie Portman...and I didn't get it! I was so disappointed. I heard people expected to see portman in a metal bikini (hum! déjà vu...)Catherine - who isn't suprised to see AOTC nominated when confronted with such poor movies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Portman is decent with good direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 I LOVE ATTACK OF THE CLONES I thought the score wasn't as strong as it could have been but hey it's Williams!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted February 14, 2003 Share Posted February 14, 2003 I gotta admit I am really hoping Natalie Portman wins "Worst Acrtess". She would really deserve it too! Her performance in AOTC (or complete lack thereof) completely baffled me in her complete lack of an ability to "emote".The acting level was absolutely abysmal in Episode II! Attack of the Monotones is more like it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted February 14, 2003 Share Posted February 14, 2003 Why didn't the actors just say this dialogue is impossible to act. :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted February 14, 2003 Author Share Posted February 14, 2003 Why didn't the actors just say this dialogue is impossible to act. :roll:Do you really think that writer-director George "I"m mad with power" Lucas would listen? The man micro manages every detail of these films (does he really need to be there when Ewan McGregor is getting his head shaved?) that I don't think he's going to let anyone change his vision.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 14, 2003 Share Posted February 14, 2003 Why didn't the actors just say this dialogue is impossible to act. :roll:I'm sorry, but I won't let the actors off so easy. They have a responsibility to rise above the material. They didn't. I don't always blame the director either. Overall the mess that is AOTC is George's responsibility, but the actors must take blame too.And I have decided that Natalie Portman isn't such a good actress afterall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted February 14, 2003 Share Posted February 14, 2003 Why didn't the actors just say this dialogue is impossible to act. :roll:Do you really think that writer-director George "I"m mad with power" Lucas would listen? The man micro manages every detail of these films (does he really need to be there when Ewan McGregor is getting his head shaved?) that I don't think he's going to let anyone change his vision.NeilHe took suggestions from Spielberg and Ron Howard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted February 14, 2003 Share Posted February 14, 2003 Why didn't the actors just say this dialogue is impossible to act. :roll:Do you really think that writer-director George "I"m mad with power" Lucas would listen? The man micro manages every detail of these films (does he really need to be there when Ewan McGregor is getting his head shaved?) that I don't think he's going to let anyone change his vision.NeilHe took suggestions from Spielberg and Ron Howard.He took, takes and will take. Hence the musical edits of the score. (they maybe not all of them but i'm sure some are) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted February 14, 2003 Share Posted February 14, 2003 He took, takes and will take. Hence the musical edits of the score. (they maybe not all of them but i'm sure some are)Are what? Spielberg and Howard's suggestions?Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 Natalie Portman's performance in AOTC is just correct. But in TPM, she was so good!I think George Lucas is a good director, with one only mistake: he has spent too much time with the same films, the same characters, etc. This has avoided him expanding his horizons. I'm sure that after Episode VI he will direct excellent movies. Can't wait to see them.I don't know why everyone waits these films to be masterpieces, when they only purpose is entertainment, pure entertainment. In fact, they are the most entertaining movies nowadays.scissorhands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 Well done. At least it is nominated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 He took, takes and will take. Hence the musical edits of the score. (they maybe not all of them but i'm sure some are)Are what? Spielberg and Howard's suggestions?JustinSpielberg and Howard suggestions make him change the movie in it's lasts production moments. I believe that's why TPM battle was so edited musically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 Spielberg and Howard suggestions make him change the movie in it's lasts production moments. I believe that's why TPM battle was so edited musically.No. George Lucas' insecurity was responsible for the last minute re-edits. And the music edits were the result of his absolute (although unconcious) lack of respect for John Williams, Film Music and Music in general (which was reproven and reconfirmed forever in the 2nd episode of the saga).Don't blame (not even indirectly) two filmmakers who DO love music and respect the artists they work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted February 15, 2003 Author Share Posted February 15, 2003 I don't know why everyone waits these films to be masterpiecesBecause the first one set such a high level of expectation.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 Spielberg and Howard suggestions make him change the movie in it's lasts production moments. I believe that's why TPM battle was so edited musically.No. George Lucas' insecurity was responsible for the last minute re-edits. And the music edits were the result of his absolute (although unconcious) lack of respect for John Williams, Film Music and Music in general (which was reproven and reconfirmed forever in the 2nd episode of the saga).Don't blame (not even indirectly) two filmmakers who DO love music and respect the artists they work with.Take Lucas insecurity and Spielberg (the man who did The Lost World: Jurassic Park)/Howard suggestons and you have the edits on TPM.Spielberg and Howard did see the reels of the movie and make suggestions, While Williams music was already composited, but i could be mistaken.But anyways, i hope Lucas still fixxes the edit porblem with Hiring Williams again. And i hope he agrees under a non-editing contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 Spielberg (the man who did The Lost World: Jurassic Park)/Howard suggestons and you have the edits on TPM.You mean the man that changed his own film to fit the score? (E.T.)Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 Ahhh, regardless.Personally, I think it's pretty damn ridiculous. It may not be an excellent movie, but the WORST of 2002? Come on. Stealing Harvard? Blue Crush? Swept Away? Pluto Nash? Ecks vs Sever? Please. Obvious bitterness involved or a lack of seeing other movies.Yes, the worse.Klesko24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted February 16, 2003 Share Posted February 16, 2003 Spielberg (the man who did The Lost World: Jurassic Park)/Howard suggestons and you have the edits on TPM.You mean the man that changed his own film to fit the score? (E.T.)JustinHe didn't actually tell Lucus to edit the score though, that would be a wholely different thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted February 16, 2003 Share Posted February 16, 2003 Take Lucas insecurity and Spielberg (the man who did The Lost World: Jurassic Park)/Howard suggestons and you have the edits on TPM.Spielberg and Howard didn't suggest Lucas to make such a horrendous use of the TPM music.Spielberg and Howard did see the reels of the movie and make suggestions, While Williams music was already composited, but i could be mistaken.You're not mistaken. Lucas is entirely responsible for his acts, though. Suggestions can be followed or ignored.But anyways, i hope Lucas still fixxes the edit porblem with Hiring Williams again. And i hope he agrees under a non-editing contract I'm afraid that will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 Why didn't the actors just say this dialogue is impossible to act. :roll:Because for many of them it is impossible to act ......... PERIOD!Haydan Christiansen could not act Shakespeare! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dole 17 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Haydan Christiansen could not act Shakespeare! I disagree. I saw Christensen in Life as a House and he was quite good. He received a Golden Globe and a Screen Actors Guild nomination for Best Supporting Actor last year for that role. And while everyone on this board probably has two or three Golden Globe nominations for something, the SAG awards are decided by fellow actors and actresses. I'd think that it's considered a tremendous honor for your peers to recognize your talents, especially in a field where everyone is almost egotistical and self-absorbed enough to nominate themselves whether they were in a movie that year or not. I think Christensen and McGregor were just hampered by the dialogue. Portman on the other hand has never been good in anything I've ever seen her in. Just my two cents.Dole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Haydan Christiansen could not act Shakespeare! I disagree. I saw Christensen in Life as a House and he was quite good. He received a Golden Globe and a Screen Actors Guild nomination for Best Supporting Actor last year for that role. And while everyone on this board probably has two or three Golden Globe nominations for something, the SAG awards are decided by fellow actors and actresses. I'd think that it's considered a tremendous honor for your peers to recognize your talents, especially in a field where everyone is almost egotistical and self-absorbed enough to nominate themselves whether they were in a movie that year or not. I think Christensen and McGregor were just hampered by the dialogue. Portman on the other hand has never been good in anything I've ever seen her in. Just my two cents.Well spoken, Dole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFKevin 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 INdeed.I have to agree with Ricard, by the way, in regards to Lucas being insecure. Anyone who goes back and makes changes on his movies a few times, even a few months after it was released, and refuses to let anyone see the original versions of the movies.....that's.......I dunno. If that isn't insecurity, what is it, exactly? I'm sure we'll see further changes when the original trilogy comes out in 2005. It'll further my belief, that I've felt for a while, that Lucas is indeed an insecure film maker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 OK maybe there is still hope for Haydan (I doubt it but maybe) , but Portman is a lousy actresss IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFKevin 0 Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 Y'ever see The Professional? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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