Popular Post King Mark 3,631 Posted December 30, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2013 It was pretty good, I liked it better than the first part and I liked Tauriel.In Imax 3D no HFR...which confirms to me it looks better than HFRThat's it.And to start my own hobbit thread too Smeltington, crocodile and indy4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 So this is how you deal with the lack of Hunger Games threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,358 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 What you think of Smaug?Did you notice anything about the score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 The visual effects on Smaug were amazing, but my favorite part of the film is Gandalf investigating the dark fortressesI noticed a few good cues in the score like the rest of the other scores. I'll make a play list of what I like of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,358 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Yea I am excited for the Dol Guldur payoff in the next filmYea Smaug had pretty much flawless special effects, though I am bummed they made his front legs part of his wings instead of the wings being a separate body part from his arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Yea Smaug had pretty much flawless special effects, though I am bummed they made his front legs part of his wings instead of the wings being a separate body part from his armsThere was ONE instance in the bloated dwarf action chase in the end (I believe its the part where Smaug is struggling in the pool of molten gold), where he looked truly awful...as if the CG model of the dragon was still in the pre-visual stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 He was a bit blurry at times, but that could be the 3D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,358 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Yea, the shots concerning Smaug being covered in molten gold were probably the worst in the entire film, made worse by the fact the entire sequence was stupid and unneeded anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 I thought it would kill him and the 3rd film about something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,358 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 You don't remember what happens in the book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 I read it 25 years ago..or did I?I have it on my desk now though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,358 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Well, it would be pretty silly to have all those scenes concerning Bard's ancestor Girion and his inability to skill Smaug back in the day with his fancy black arrows if he was just going to be killed in a completely different manner in the film (another reason why the gold bit shouldn't have been in there) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 Yeah, I forgot that. We know Smaug's demise basically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,358 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 At least in the original structure (only 2 films instead of 3), all of that stuff with the arrows would have been introduced in the same film where Smaug's ultimate fate is revealed instead of introducing them in one film and not pay off until another, making any one watching the films who actually hadn't read the books easily figure out what's going to happen. They should have never changed their original plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 I must say the film ended very abruptly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 It's the Empire Strikes Back of the series.But if you're gonna create a thread just to tell us you saw it then you could have at least written an actual review...Joey is gonna love you for making another Hobbit thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 I'm not very good at long reviews, so I'm expecting others to add comments about what they liked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Joey will really appreciate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 Well it was a bit of a joke, just to throw oil in the fire at the excessive Hobbit thread topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I had a feeling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 And don't anyone dare merge this thread with the main Hobbit thread SafeUnderHill and indy4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 The HFR was great! It was like watching a video in the cinema. Film sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I'm glad you liked it KM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Is it just me or does this (unnecessary) thread seem to exist merely for ego-stroking? How nice that KM complained about ... nevermind. Jilal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I got that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 The molten gold was one of the worst sfx in the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 The molten gold was one of the worst sfx in the series.Molten fudge you mean.I guess the dwarves were quite the confectioners but alas hot fudge can't kill dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 The molten gold was one of the worst sfx in the series.I agree and it would certainly seem that way, but does anyone really know what molten gold on that scale looks like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I am sure they did hours and hours of research and found out it was not that different from gold paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Ive printed gold paint lots of times. It dont look like it did in DoS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 My last hero has fallen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Hymn to the Fallen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Just give Pasi another reason to leave again... Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,687 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 The molten gold was absolutely stupid - partly from an effects PoV (easily the worse large-scale effect in the franchise), and partly due to what Jay pointed out - there's no possible way they will kill the dragon with the 'black arrow' subplot hanging and an entire 150 minute threequel to get through.Splitting it into 3 films was easily the worst decision PJ's ever made IMO. All the material I've seen so far in both films would make a perfectly entertaining 2 hour film. Instead, it was without a doubt the longest I felt I'd ever sat in a cinema for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I think even if they had decided to do 3 films from the development stage, it would have been better. But to do so while shooting?Both films feel padded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 30, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2013 Splitting it into 3 films was easily the worst decision PJ's ever made IMO.Yep. Most problems with those films all come down to this decision.Weird pace, weird editing, uninteresting added subplots, hacked up score, last-minute changed designs, changed character roles, unexisting endings... Most of these things happened after they decided to do three films. Incanus, Sharkissimo and Delorean90 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Weird though that for DoS soooo much stuff from the book was dropped or truncated in the first half. It felt like the film had barely been going by the time they were in the Elvish prisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Splitting it into 3 films was easily the worst decision PJ's ever made IMO.Yep. Most problems with those films all come down to this decision.Weird pace, weird editing, uninteresting added subplots, hacked up score, last-minute changed designs, changed character roles, unexisting endings... Most of these things happened after they decided to do three films.I think the "last minute decision" syndrome affects these films a heck lot more than they ever did LotR even though it had its fair share of changes throughout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Weird though that for DoS soooo much stuff from the book was dropped or truncated in the first half. It felt like the film had barely been going by the time they were in the Elvish prisons.And still there is such an urgency in the film all the time. There is no time for a breather at any point nor is passage of time felt. It feels like it takes 4 days to reach Lake-Town and 1 to the hidden door and still the film is 2h 40 minutes long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,358 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 The EE will fix a lot of these issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 The EE will fix a lot of these issues.PJ should stop relying on the EEs to "fix" his films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 The EE will fix a lot of these issues.PJ should stop relying on the EEs to "fix" his films.Exactly! Lose the extraneous material and Tauriels and subplots that don't go anywhere and focus on the main story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Better then AUJ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Better then AUJ!Yes yes. We all know there is a nice Hobbit movie under all that fat but PJ should have trimmed a good portion of it to make it into a watchable film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Because he didnt Warner will probably make an extra 1 billion USD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Because he didnt Warner will probably make an extra 1 billion USDThey could have made 2 with an even better (shorter) film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 With all the padding, chances that TABA will end with a version of The Scouring Of The Shire are good though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Weird though that for DoS soooo much stuff from the book was dropped or truncated in the first half. It felt like the film had barely been going by the time they were in the Elvish prisons.And still there is such an urgency in the film all the time. There is no time for a breather at any point nor is passage of time felt. It feels like it takes 4 days to reach Lake-Town and 1 to the hidden door and still the film is 2h 40 minutes long.So, how long till I declare it an absolute mess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Weird though that for DoS soooo much stuff from the book was dropped or truncated in the first half. It felt like the film had barely been going by the time they were in the Elvish prisons.And still there is such an urgency in the film all the time. There is no time for a breather at any point nor is passage of time felt. It feels like it takes 4 days to reach Lake-Town and 1 to the hidden door and still the film is 2h 40 minutes long.So, how long till I declare it an absolute mess?Not yet...not quite yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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