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Twin Peaks 3x03 The Return, Part 3

 

The Return of Agent Cooper - Loved all of this!  The opening dialogue-free ~15 minutes with Coop in that weird room with the lady with no eyes, the people banging on the door, climbing up to flip the switch, the face that said Blue Rose, awesome trippy stuff.  When he goes back down and now she can talk and says it's her mother banging on the door, and he has to go get sucked into that thingy on the wall, all good stuff too!  Seeing Evil Coop falling asleep at the wheel was a bit uncomfortable, then the crash was kind of oddly filmed I thought.  

 

The appearance of a THIRD Cooper was something I wasn't expecting!  Kyle MacLachlan was GREAT as a third character here, Dougie, as briefly as we got to see him.  I actually really liked all the scenes with Jade, both with Dougie and then with Reincarnated Coop who can't seem to talk much yet.  Never seen this actress before but she totally killed in the role.  The two guys that were sent to kill Coop and then put the tracker on the car, I guess this is what was setup last week with that one scene set in Las Vegas, but I already don't even remember what those two guys said and don't really know how they knew Coop would eventually replace Dougie, but I guess we'll find out.


The whole ending bit in the casino was really good, primarily because it finally actually featured some real music.  I mean, MacLachlan was amazing, but the music that played as he wandered through the slots, the little guitar bit each time the floating symbol thingy appeared was really nice.

 

Another good scene was Dougie's final bit of life, when he shrank up in the black lodge, leaving behind only a little golden orb and a ring, which Mike picks up.  Interesting how important Mike seems to be as a character so far this year.

 

Lucy, Andy, and Hawk look over the evidence - A pretty funny scene, with Lucy fretting over eating a chocolate bunny.  But AGAIN, I feel like the scene really had HALF the impact it could have if they just put some MUSIC under it!  The initial establishing shot of the sheriff's station was crying for music, as was Lucy's freakout to undercut her shrieks with comedic tons.  Shame.

 

Gordon, Albert, and the FBI - This was cool, then annoying, but ultimately great.  What I mean is, It was great to see these two characters again, and when we learn they are investigating that weird room in New York City, that's cool.  But then when it talks about some guy who killed his wife and his clues in the garden, and the camera slowly panned over them, it really seemed like this was some connection to some Twin Peaks book I haven't read or something.  I could be wrong but that's how it felt.  Anyways, when they get the call about Coop, but then say South Dakota so you know its Evil Coop after his car crash, that was cool. looking forward to them interacting with him.

 

Dr. Jacoby paints his shovels - His device to paint them seems needlessly elaborate.  Could he have just held them in one hand and painted them with the other?

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57 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

Dr. Jacoby paints his shovels - His device to paint them seems needlessly elaborate.  Could he have just held them in one hand and painted them with the other?

 

Ruined the episode for me! Unforgivably sloppy, something Gilligan would not have allowed.

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I'd actually say Jacoby prepping the shovels is the second lowest point of the show so far (after Nine Inch Nails: The Complete Music Video). It was life threateningly dull. 

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9 minutes ago, Quintus said:

I'd actually say the Jacoby prepping the shovels is the second lowest point of the show so far (after Nine Inch Nails: The Complete Music Video). It was life threateningly dull. 

 

The 3 minute shot of the bar being cleaned?

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1 hour ago, BloodBoal said:

 

That was Major Briggs, by the way.

 

Oh wow, I totally didn't recognize him!  That explains why I saw the him credited in the end credits!  Thanks!

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2 hours ago, Quintus said:

I'd actually say the Jacoby prepping the shovels is the second lowest point of the show so far (after Nine Inch Nails: The Complete Music Video). It was life threateningly dull. 

 

I thought both of those segments were superb.

 

The low point so far is the endless Dougie Jones antics; on second place is the absence of Badalamenti's shuffling, jazzy percussion cues for the comedy scenes involving the sheriff office.

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Twin Peaks 3x04 The Return, Part 4

 

Everyone thinks Cooper is Dougie - The continuing of the casino sequence was fun, especially when two actors I like showed up - the head of the casino that gives him the bag of money is from Go On and Another Period (and is pretty drastically different in all 3 roles I've seen him in now), and the pit boss was the guy from The Dark Knight and Ant-man.

 

Back at home, I loved it when Dougie has a wife, and its freaking Naomi Watts (I've loved her since Mulholand Dr).  She was pretty good in this role, but I had one problem with this whole sequence:  As Dougie's wife, she would KNOW that Cooper isn't Dougie.  Just because he has the same face doesn't mean she'd be fooled for an entire day about him.  I suppose its a minor quibble.  Kyle MacLachlan killed it again this week, he was so good in all his scenes at home.  I thought for sure once the kid finally came in, he go "hey mom, who'se the guy wearing dad's clothes, but nope.  Anyways, his interaction with the kid was fun, and I loved how when he saw the coffee he kind of lit up and you think the original Cooper is starting to come through.  Interesting little bit where Coop sees Mike in the black lodge, and he tells him that either him or Evil Coop must die.  So if Evil Coop dies, will all of Cooper's memories and personality instantly return or something?  Hmmm.

 

The other Sheriff Truman - As soon as we got the news of Robert Forster being cast, I knew he would kill it, and he does; He was GREAT here (he's always great!)  It's really a shame the original Sheriff Truman actor didn't want to un-retire to film a few scenes for this, but I suppose it was the next best idea to have a different actor play his brother, and keep his character alive (maybe he'll be willing to un-retire for a season 4).

 

Andy and Lucy's son - W...t...f... I usually like Michael Cera but found these whole scene to be sooo weird.  Just the way he talked, I guess.  I thought it would have been funny if Lucy and Andy's son was like, super intelligent, but this route they took was interesting too; He's already a nationwide traveler by 24, where Lucy and Andy have probably never left Twin Peaks before.  I can't imagine he'll be an important character and doubt we'll see him again, but it was nice to see what Lucy and Andy beaming with pride over him.

 

Deputy Bobby Brigs! - Bobby's back!  Kinda logical that he never left town, the former high school football stud sticking around.  I wonder if he's married to a character we know from the original series.  I liked how when he saw the picture of Laura Palmer, we FINALLY got some music played in Twin Peaks!  Was that a new recording of Laura's theme, or straight from the 90s show?

 

The FBI - Woah, I had forgotten that they got David Duchovny to come back!  So funny that Denise has risen the ranks to not only be Gordon's boss, but the Chief of Staff of the entire FBI, lol.  His little bit about using the full words Federal Bureau of Investigation, was that some kind of X-Files thing, or some other in joke?

 

Not really sure what to think of Agent Preston, the way she swings her hips way out side to side when she walks is kinda silly, and her car sickness thing seems like some other clue that there's more to her than meets the eye.  I suspect she's some kind of tool of bad people in the black lodge or something.

 

Gordon and Albert meeting with Evil Coop was a good scene!  Kyle MacLachlan is so good on this show, I hope he gets an emmy nom.  I'm glad that Gordon and Albert knew right away something wasn't right.  One thing that bugged me was, the whole bit where Evil Coop says he was working for Philip Jeffries and Albert confessed to Gordin that he told Jeffries where an undercover agent was once and he was killed a week later... once again, this feels to me like a connection to some Twin Peaks book I haven't read (or maybe the movie I haven't seen), just like the garden clues from last week's episode.  What's up with that?  Do I need to see the movie to get the most out of this show?

 

The Military angle - So the only continuation of the South Dakota librarian / Matthew Lillard subplot this week came from the lady from Hung running prints on the body that was paired with the librarians head, and it came back with a military block.  Interesting!  Next, Bobby Briggs mentioned to everyone that Dale Cooper was the last person to see his dad alive.  Finally, when Albert and Gordon were talking at the end, Albert mentioned Blue Rose, which was what the floating Major Briggs head said last week.  Looks like we got something brewing here!

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30 minutes ago, Jay said:

Andy and Lucy's son - W...t...f... I usually like Michael Cera but found these whole scene to be sooo weird.  Just the way he talked, I guess.  I thought it would have been funny if Lucy and Andy's son was like, super intelligent, but this route they took was interesting too; He's already a nationwide traveler by 24, where Lucy and Andy have probably never left Twin Peaks before.  I can't imagine he'll be an important character and doubt we'll see him again, but it was nice to see what Lucy and Andy beaming with pride over him.

 

I think this was just a straight-up ode to Marlon Brando in ONE-EYED JACKS (which, as it happens, is also the name of the bordello in TWIN PEAKS). I doubt we'll see anything more from Cera's character. Just one of the MANY asides in the story that we just have to approach on an individual scene level. But I could be wrong, of course.

 

30 minutes ago, Jay said:

Not really sure what to think of Agent Preston, the way she swings her hips way out side to side when she walks is kinda silly, and her car sickness thing seems like some other clue that there's more to her than meets the eye.  I suspect she's some kind of tool of bad people in the black lodge or something.

 

Goes to show how many potential situations have been set up when I've completely forgotten about this....

 

This is without question a show I have to see many, many times to properly grasp. Even if this third season is all that will ever be.

 

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Btw, had FWWM only been notable for just one thing (it isn't), it'd be this stunning piece, which is among the very best of all of Badalamenti's work in the Twin Peaks universe:

 

 

The feeling of catharsis it provides in the final scene is absolute. 

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On 6/30/2017 at 10:28 PM, TheGreyPilgrim said:

Lara Flynn Boyle is an absolute fox in this.

 

You're talking about the original seasons from the 90s right?  If so, I can't really agree; I found Audrey to be way, way hotter than Donna.  

 

Audrey > Heather Graham > Shelly > Donna

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2 hours ago, Thor said:

The low point so far is the endless Dougie Jones antics; on second place is the absence of Badalamenti's shuffling, jazzy percussion cues for the comedy scenes involving the sheriff office.

 

You mean Cooper in Vegas where everyone thinks he's Dougie, right?  Because we only saw the actual Dougie for basically one scene before he disappeared and was replaced by Cooper, then one final scene when he shrank up in the black lodge.  Or does the actual Dougie come back later?

 

I thought the whole sequence with Cooper at breakfast with the tie on his head while Naomi Watts cooked stuff and his kid ate pancakes was pretty funny, loved how it was set to Take Five too!

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Quintus said:

Highlight of the show so far. 

 

2 hours ago, Stefancos said:

She's damn hot!

 

 

She's too skinny for my tastes

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, BloodBoal said:

LeBlanc, you should definitely watch the film (even before you continue watching the other episodes). It is essential to understand some of the stuff happening in season 3 ("Blue rose" is a good example of that).

 

 

About that:  I figured when the floating head said "blue rose", it was a new clue.  But this morning I pulled my Twin Peaks blu ray box set down from the shelf and opened it up, and saw the back cover and one of the inside pages has a blue rose graphic.  So, is Blue Rose something from the original series I forgot about, or something invented for the movie?

Also, I think I convinced Marcy we should watch it this afternoon!

 

 

 

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Oh, and it's "Gordon", not "Gordin". ;)

 

 

Fixed!  Obviously, I've been playing too much Fire Emblem: Heroes

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The blue rose probably refers to Cole's special cases files, think "Project BLUE Book", an "X-Files" kind of deal of which he is in charge of at the bureau. It's much more clearly defined in FWWM. 

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1 hour ago, Thor said:

I think this was just a straight-up ode to Marlon Brando in ONE-EYED JACKS (which, as it happens, is also the name of the bordello in TWIN PEAKS). I doubt we'll see anything more from Cera's character. Just one of the MANY asides in the story that we just have to approach on an individual scene level. But I could be wrong, of course.

 

I thought it was completely fine as a single-scene comedic aside / character building for Andy and Lucy.  But yea, I have to imagine it'd get grating if he played any kind of important role in the season.  I have never seen One-Eyed- Jacks so whatever reference they were doing here was lost on me.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Thor said:

Goes to show how many potential situations have been set up when I've completely forgotten about this....

 

It's actually not just the wide hip-swinging, and carsickness;  Also after they interviewed Evil Coop, the three agents were talking outside and Gordon used some device and said "you're wearing a wire!" and she said "You told me to!", and then he tells her to go wait inside the restaurant, and only once she's inside do Gordon and Albert have their conversation about the dude that Evil Coop claimed he was working for that I assume is a reference to either the movie or the book, or whatever.  So yea, I'd say they're setting her up to either by some kind of spy, or just a red herring for the real spy (Denise?)

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Laura Palmer's murder has been solved.  Soon I'll be on to FWWM, then the new stuff.  

 

My impressions so far are that it's a fantastic show, but I think my expectations were a little off the mark and I was thus a little let down.  Unless the second half of season 2 takes a different turn, which seems possible, I was hoping for much more outright weirdness from this story.  More Red Room, more stuff with the Bookhouse Boys and their ancient mission, more of The Giant, more stuff like Major Briggs delivering a message from another galaxy to Cooper - which I think has been my favorite scene so far.  

 

But apart from how it has compared to what I expected, it really is great, great stuff.

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Most all of the weirdest stuff the show has to offer comes after Laura's murder is solved, not before it

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3 hours ago, Jay said:

 

You mean Cooper in Vegas where everyone thinks he's Dougie, right?  Because we only saw the actual Dougie for basically one scene before he disappeared and was replaced by Cooper, then one final scene when he shrank up in the black lodge.  Or does the actual Dougie come back later?

 

His story arc has yet to be resolved as of episode 8. Sorry for the spoiler, but you asked! :)

 

By the way, I just watched FWWM again, and I was reminded yet again what a f....ng masterpiece that film is! Jesus Christ on a stick!

 

But it begs the question -- what is Lara Flynn Boyle's beef with Lynch? She was replaced in this, and does not appear in the third season?

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Didn't Flynn Boyle refuse to be in the movie?

Also, she ran interference on the second season of the show I believe. Lynch probably didn't wanna have her back.

7 hours ago, Jay said:

Most all of the weirdest stuff the show has to offer comes after Laura's murder is solved, not before it

 

Absolutely wrong! And that's certainly wasn't Lynch's intention. 

If the new show does one thing it's show how Laura Palmer is central to the Twin Peaks mythology.

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7 hours ago, Thor said:

By the way, I just watched FWWM again, and I was reminded yet again what a f....ng masterpiece that film is! Jesus Christ on a stick!

 

I'd give it 3.5 out 5.

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That would give it an aggregate score of 4,25 out of 5.

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She was pretty good in this role, but I had one problem with this whole sequence:  As Dougie's wife, she would KNOW that Cooper isn't Dougie.  Just because he has the same face doesn't mean she'd be fooled for an entire day about him.  I suppose its a minor quibble.

 

Absolutely vital for the continuation of that plot thread that she is absolutely clueless about anything.

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Ha, ha....I agree with Hitler!

 

By the way, that poor UNTERGANG movie. Such a brilliant film and performance (this scene in particular), but after the million of parodies, it's hard to keep a straight face while watching the real thing now.

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So, if the two week break and the theory that last episode was intended as a sort of half way juncture, with a line drawn underneath its intermissionary tone, what are the odds on us seeing this in the opening credits sequence of the next instalment:

 

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1 hour ago, Quintus said:

So, if the two week break and the theory that last episode was intended as a sort of half way juncture, with a line drawn underneath its intermissionary tone; what are the odds on us seeing this in the opening credits sequence of the next instalment:

 

MxolkAN.jpg

 

 

Non existent!

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