Ricard 2,270 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 The year 1984 was truly a great year for movies. There were so many classics that came out that year. There's a tribute art show being put on by Bottleneck Gallery in Brooklyn, NY called "It Came From 1984."Some of the films represented at the show include Ghostbusters, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, This is Spinal Tap, The Terminator, Police Academy, Beverly Hills Cop, Gremlins, A Nightmare on Elm Street, Revenge of the Nerds, Purple Rain, The Karate Kid, Splash, and Red Dawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,578 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Let us also remember the 30th anniversary of the 1984 Apple Macintosh commercial: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,450 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Steef only had 200 posts back then. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,578 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 And already he was celebrating his beloved '80s (with 1982 being the year 'zero')!! Doesn't he realize the '80s also brought forward New Wave?!!! Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 80's?I'm not really an 80's buff, the 90's is my decade. The 80's has a campy charm ofcourse.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 New wave started in the seventies when the record labels didn't want to keep using the term punk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Didnt Punk really take of in the 80's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,383 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Didnt Punk really take of in the 80's?Yeah, but it started in the late 70s, as a reaction to what they considered more 'stuffy' rock (prog rock etc.) and the cheese of disco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 There was some hideous pop music in the 70's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,974 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 New wave started in the seventies when the record labels didn't want to keep using the term punk.New Wave grew out from Post-Punk. Acts like Magazine, Scritti Polliti, P.I.L., The Stranglers, Wire, Gang of Four, The Cars, Talking Heads, The Fall, Echo & The Bunnymen, Blondie, XTC, Ultravox, Gary Numan, John Foxx, Japan etc.Punk had its origins (what's called 'Proto-Punk') in America with the Detroit scene in the late 60s (The Stooges and MC5) and later the New York scene in the early 70s (New York Dolls, Velvet Underground, Television, Ramones and Patti Smith). You could also trace Punk Rock in its Sex Pistols form to the Skiffle boom in the late 50s/early 70s. Also, The Stranglers owed a lot to Pub Rock bands like Dr. Feelgood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Aaaanyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 The 1984 NBA draft was brimming with once in a generation -- perhaps once in a lifetime -- talent: Akeem Olajuwon, Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley, John Stockton. What a year. Joni Wiljami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,270 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 New Wave grew out from Post-Punk. Acts like Magazine, Scritti Polliti, P.I.L., The Stranglers, Wire, Gang of Four, The Cars, Talking Heads, The Fall, Echo & The Bunnymen, Blondie, XTC, Ultravox, Gary Numan, John Foxx, Japan etcLet's not forget The Police, Joe Jackson, Elvis Costello, The Jam, The Pretenders, Ian Dury, Dr. Feelgood, The Knack, Madness, Fisher Z... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,578 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 New wave started in the seventies when the record labels didn't want to keep using the term punk.Take it from someone who has been there, kid, New Wave was big in the '80s, not in the "70s. Everybody knows that, even without consulting wojopedia. That it has some roots in punk is not the issue. Cheers!Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,270 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 New wave started in the seventies when the record labels didn't want to keep using the term punk.New Wave was big in the '80s, not in the "70s. Everybody knows that, even without consulting wojopediaIn the UK it was a late-'70s phenomenon more than an '80s movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,578 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 No, it wasn't. You are confused with the punk genre, which was kinda of an answer to disco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 "By the end of 1977," new wave" had replaced "punk" as the definition for new underground music in the UK."I put more stock in Wikipedia than Alzcremers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,270 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 No, it wasn't. You are confused with the punk genre, which was kinda of an answer to disco.I was there Alex. I bought the records, I read the magazines, I went to the concerts. In other words I lived the new wave from beginning to end -and yes, it was called "new wave". By 1981 it was already fading out in the UK, and the so-called New Romantics were the thing."By the end of 1977," new wave" had replaced "punk" as the definition for new underground music in the UK."Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Of course, in some parts of Germany and Scandinavia, the 80s are still going, with the loud hair music as strong as ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,578 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Yes, underground, but not 'mainstream'. Generally speaking, I think everybody knows the '80s are synonymous with New Wave, not the '70s. The '70s were about rock, hard rock, glam rock, pop, disco and punk. BTW, Ricard, you mentioned The Police as typical '80s, and they are, but they were already a phenomenon in 1978 with Roxanne. That song was like a revelation to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Ok, pops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,578 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Well, just look at them gazillion 'best of the '80s' compilation CDs, if you don't believe me. I know what I'm taking about. I was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,270 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 Generally speaking, I think everybody knows the '80s are synonymous with New Wave, not the '70s.Yes, that's a common misconception. At least for the British New Wave (1977-early '80s).BTW, Ricard, you mentioned the Police as typical '80s, but they were already a phenomenon in 1978 with Roxanne. That was like a revelation to the public.No, I mentioned them as part of the New Wave. I became a die-hard fan of The Police in 1979, so I know "a little" about each of their "revelations" Back to that 1984 thing... Here are some more examples from the art show: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,974 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 New wave started in the seventies when the record labels didn't want to keep using the term punk.Take it from someone who has been there, kid, New Wave was big in the '80s, not in the "70s. Everybody knows that, even without consulting wojopedia. That it has some roots in punk is not the issue.New Wave began in 1978. The 80s is more associated more with synth pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,578 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 New wave started in the seventies when the record labels didn't want to keep using the term punk.Take it from someone who has been there, kid, New Wave was big in the '80s, not in the "70s. Everybody knows that, even without consulting wojopedia. That it has some roots in punk is not the issue.New Wave began in 1978. The 80s is more associated more with synth pop.Again, it began as underground in the late '70s, then in the '80s it became mainstream hit parade music. New Wave is a broad term covering many different subgenres. I was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,974 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 New wave started in the seventies when the record labels didn't want to keep using the term punk.Take it from someone who has been there, kid, New Wave was big in the '80s, not in the "70s. Everybody knows that, even without consulting wojopedia. That it has some roots in punk is not the issue.New Wave began in 1978. The 80s is more associated more with synth pop.Again, it began as underground in the late '70s, then in the '80s it became mainstream hit parade music. New Wave is a broad term covering many different subgenres. I was there.Ok, fair enough - it survived till the early 80s. But look at Simple Minds' New Wave/Post Punk records from Life in a Day to the great New Gold Dream, followed by awful Stadium Rock shite from '84 onwards.Alex, name me a New Wave album from 1984. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 So if I want to put The Cars' first album on my iPod, I have to change the year to sometime in the 80s because new wave wasn't a 70s thing. Good to know. Thanks Alex! Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,270 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 look at Simple Minds' New Wave/Post Punk records from Life in a Day to the great New Gold Dream, followed by awful Stadium Rock shite from '84 onwards.Hey, Simple Minds' "awful stadium rock shite" is the best thing that came out from the mid-'80s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 World War II was more of a 40s thing. That's when it really became mainstream. Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,974 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 look at Simple Minds' New Wave/Post Punk records from Life in a Day to the great New Gold Dream, followed by awful Stadium Rock shite from '84 onwards.Hey, Simple Minds' "awful stadium rock shite" is the best thing that came out from the mid-'80s!Nope, that would be The Smiths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,270 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,974 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 So if I want to put The Cars' first album on my iPod, I have to change the year to sometime in the 80s because new wave wasn't a 70s thing. Good to know. Thanks Alex!He's got it All Mixed Up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,270 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 World War II was more of a 40s thing. That's when it really became mainstream.LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,578 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 So if I want to put The Cars' first album on my iPod, I have to change the year to sometime in the 80s because new wave wasn't a 70s thing. Good to know. Thanks Alex!That's right. Even though it started in the late seventies (such as that Cars album you refer to), New Wave is an '80s thing. The '80s are associated with New Wave, not the seventies. Is that so difficult to understand? Why don't you look it up in Wikipedia? What happened to you? Your info used to be more accurate, wikiwojo. Then again, you weren't there so how would you know?Alex, name me a New Wave album from 1984.Some Great Reward by Depeche Mode.Cheers!Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,320 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 New Wave grew out from Post-Punk. Acts like Magazine, Scritti Polliti, P.I.L., The Stranglers, Wire, Gang of Four, The Cars, Talking Heads, The Fall, Echo & The Bunnymen, Blondie, XTC, Ultravox, Gary Numan, John Foxx, Japan etcLet's not forget The Police, Joe Jackson, Elvis Costello, The Jam, The Pretenders, Ian Dury, Dr. Feelgood, The Knack, Madness, Fisher Z... And the B-52's. They are one of my all time favorite bands, next to Talking Heads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I don't care to know associations. That's a gray term, based on opinion and popularity. I wanted the cold hard facts. When did the genre begin? You have confirmed that. I can now die in peace. Thank you, Alzcremers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,578 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 You showed that you are an idiot today, wojo. Twice!First in the Philip Seymour Hoffman thread and now here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Oh trust me, today was not the first time Wo showed his true colours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,578 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 He does deserve a point for Alzcremers. It's original and I know he didn't get that from wikipedia.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Having an unpopular and callous opinion does not make someone an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,270 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 You showed that you are an idiot today, wojo. Twice!First in the Philip Seymour Hoffman thread and now here.I totally agree with everything he's said in this thread, does that make me an idiot too?The Philip Seymour Hoffman thing was uncalled for, but it doesn't make him an idiot either. Plus he apologized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 The images from the 1984 gallery are quite nice. I apologized that what I said was offensive, but not for what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,270 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 I apologized that what I said was offensive, but not for what I said.Then you're an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I guess it's certifiable now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 He does deserve a point for Alzcremers. It's original and I know he didn't get that from wikipedia.AlexI prefer Asscremers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 You would! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 AssCremers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 1984 was a very good year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,427 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 look at Simple Minds' New Wave/Post Punk records from Life in a Day to the great New Gold Dream, followed by awful Stadium Rock shite from '84 onwards.Hey, Simple Minds' "awful stadium rock shite" is the best thing that came out from the mid-'80s!Nope, that would be The Smiths.+ 1 !!!!Wasn't the Apple ad. directed by a certain R. Scott, esq?Anyway, yous all forgot the most significant film to be released in 1984... Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,974 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Alex, name me a New Wave album from 1984.Some Great Reward by Depeche Mode.Synthpop!Having an unpopular and callous opinion does not make someone an idiot.Unpopular no, but callousness is one of the requirements for idiocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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