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It Came From 1984


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The year 1984 was truly a great year for movies. There were so many classics that came out that year. There's a tribute art show being put on by Bottleneck Gallery in Brooklyn, NY called "It Came From 1984."

Some of the films represented at the show include Ghostbusters, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, This is Spinal Tap, The Terminator, Police Academy, Beverly Hills Cop, Gremlins, A Nightmare on Elm Street, Revenge of the Nerds, Purple Rain, The Karate Kid, Splash, and Red Dawn.

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Didnt Punk really take of in the 80's?

Yeah, but it started in the late 70s, as a reaction to what they considered more 'stuffy' rock (prog rock etc.) and the cheese of disco.

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New wave started in the seventies when the record labels didn't want to keep using the term punk.

New Wave grew out from Post-Punk. Acts like Magazine, Scritti Polliti, P.I.L., The Stranglers, Wire, Gang of Four, The Cars, Talking Heads, The Fall, Echo & The Bunnymen, Blondie, XTC, Ultravox, Gary Numan, John Foxx, Japan etc.

Punk had its origins (what's called 'Proto-Punk') in America with the Detroit scene in the late 60s (The Stooges and MC5) and later the New York scene in the early 70s (New York Dolls, Velvet Underground, Television, Ramones and Patti Smith). You could also trace Punk Rock in its Sex Pistols form to the Skiffle boom in the late 50s/early 70s. Also, The Stranglers owed a lot to Pub Rock bands like Dr. Feelgood.

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New Wave grew out from Post-Punk. Acts like Magazine, Scritti Polliti, P.I.L., The Stranglers, Wire, Gang of Four, The Cars, Talking Heads, The Fall, Echo & The Bunnymen, Blondie, XTC, Ultravox, Gary Numan, John Foxx, Japan etc

Let's not forget The Police, Joe Jackson, Elvis Costello, The Jam, The Pretenders, Ian Dury, Dr. Feelgood, The Knack, Madness, Fisher Z...

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New wave started in the seventies when the record labels didn't want to keep using the term punk.

Take it from someone who has been there, kid, New Wave was big in the '80s, not in the "70s. Everybody knows that, even without consulting wojopedia. That it has some roots in punk is not the issue.

Cheers!

Alex

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New wave started in the seventies when the record labels didn't want to keep using the term punk.

New Wave was big in the '80s, not in the "70s. Everybody knows that, even without consulting wojopedia

In the UK it was a late-'70s phenomenon more than an '80s movement.

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No, it wasn't. You are confused with the punk genre, which was kinda of an answer to disco.

I was there Alex. I bought the records, I read the magazines, I went to the concerts. In other words I lived the new wave from beginning to end -and yes, it was called "new wave". By 1981 it was already fading out in the UK, and the so-called New Romantics were the thing.

"By the end of 1977," new wave" had replaced "punk" as the definition for new underground music in the UK."

Correct.

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Yes, underground, but not 'mainstream'. Generally speaking, I think everybody knows the '80s are synonymous with New Wave, not the '70s. The '70s were about rock, hard rock, glam rock, pop, disco and punk. BTW, Ricard, you mentioned The Police as typical '80s, and they are, but they were already a phenomenon in 1978 with Roxanne. That song was like a revelation to the public.

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Generally speaking, I think everybody knows the '80s are synonymous with New Wave, not the '70s.

Yes, that's a common misconception. At least for the British New Wave (1977-early '80s).

BTW, Ricard, you mentioned the Police as typical '80s, but they were already a phenomenon in 1978 with Roxanne. That was like a revelation to the public.

No, I mentioned them as part of the New Wave. I became a die-hard fan of The Police in 1979, so I know "a little" about each of their "revelations" :)

Back to that 1984 thing... Here are some more examples from the art show:

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The-Terminator-by-Marco-DAlfonso.jpg

Steven-Hughes-Nightmare-Elm-Street.jpg

Timothy-Pittides-Temple-of-Doom.jpg

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New wave started in the seventies when the record labels didn't want to keep using the term punk.

Take it from someone who has been there, kid, New Wave was big in the '80s, not in the "70s. Everybody knows that, even without consulting wojopedia. That it has some roots in punk is not the issue.

New Wave began in 1978. The 80s is more associated more with synth pop.

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New wave started in the seventies when the record labels didn't want to keep using the term punk.

Take it from someone who has been there, kid, New Wave was big in the '80s, not in the "70s. Everybody knows that, even without consulting wojopedia. That it has some roots in punk is not the issue.

New Wave began in 1978. The 80s is more associated more with synth pop.

Again, it began as underground in the late '70s, then in the '80s it became mainstream hit parade music. New Wave is a broad term covering many different subgenres. I was there.

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New wave started in the seventies when the record labels didn't want to keep using the term punk.

Take it from someone who has been there, kid, New Wave was big in the '80s, not in the "70s. Everybody knows that, even without consulting wojopedia. That it has some roots in punk is not the issue.

New Wave began in 1978. The 80s is more associated more with synth pop.

Again, it began as underground in the late '70s, then in the '80s it became mainstream hit parade music. New Wave is a broad term covering many different subgenres. I was there.

Ok, fair enough - it survived till the early 80s. But look at Simple Minds' New Wave/Post Punk records from Life in a Day to the great New Gold Dream, followed by awful Stadium Rock shite from '84 onwards.

Alex, name me a New Wave album from 1984.

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look at Simple Minds' New Wave/Post Punk records from Life in a Day to the great New Gold Dream, followed by awful Stadium Rock shite from '84 onwards.

Hey, Simple Minds' "awful stadium rock shite" is the best thing that came out from the mid-'80s!

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look at Simple Minds' New Wave/Post Punk records from Life in a Day to the great New Gold Dream, followed by awful Stadium Rock shite from '84 onwards.

Hey, Simple Minds' "awful stadium rock shite" is the best thing that came out from the mid-'80s!

Nope, that would be The Smiths.

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So if I want to put The Cars' first album on my iPod, I have to change the year to sometime in the 80s because new wave wasn't a 70s thing. Good to know. Thanks Alex!

That's right. Even though it started in the late seventies (such as that Cars album you refer to), New Wave is an '80s thing. The '80s are associated with New Wave, not the seventies. Is that so difficult to understand? Why don't you look it up in Wikipedia? What happened to you? Your info used to be more accurate, wikiwojo. Then again, you weren't there so how would you know?

Alex, name me a New Wave album from 1984.

Some Great Reward by Depeche Mode.

Cheers!

Alex

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New Wave grew out from Post-Punk. Acts like Magazine, Scritti Polliti, P.I.L., The Stranglers, Wire, Gang of Four, The Cars, Talking Heads, The Fall, Echo & The Bunnymen, Blondie, XTC, Ultravox, Gary Numan, John Foxx, Japan etc

Let's not forget The Police, Joe Jackson, Elvis Costello, The Jam, The Pretenders, Ian Dury, Dr. Feelgood, The Knack, Madness, Fisher Z...

And the B-52's. They are one of my all time favorite bands, next to Talking Heads

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I don't care to know associations. That's a gray term, based on opinion and popularity. I wanted the cold hard facts. When did the genre begin? You have confirmed that. I can now die in peace. Thank you, Alzcremers.

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You showed that you are an idiot today, wojo. Twice!

First in the Philip Seymour Hoffman thread and now here.

I totally agree with everything he's said in this thread, does that make me an idiot too?

The Philip Seymour Hoffman thing was uncalled for, but it doesn't make him an idiot either. Plus he apologized.

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look at Simple Minds' New Wave/Post Punk records from Life in a Day to the great New Gold Dream, followed by awful Stadium Rock shite from '84 onwards.

Hey, Simple Minds' "awful stadium rock shite" is the best thing that came out from the mid-'80s!

Nope, that would be The Smiths.

+ 1 !!!!

Wasn't the Apple ad. directed by a certain R. Scott, esq?

Anyway, yous all forgot the most significant film to be released in 1984...

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Alex, name me a New Wave album from 1984.

Some Great Reward by Depeche Mode.

Synthpop!

Having an unpopular and callous opinion does not make someone an idiot.

Unpopular no, but callousness is one of the requirements for idiocity.

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