#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 On 3/24/2019 at 7:41 AM, publicist said: To cite Pauline Kael's review back from 1961 which seems prophetic in foretelling the problems of adapting that thing for a 2019 audience: Did Lalaland have any of those issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Unlike Burton's Sweeney Todd, Spielberg is clearly going for the traditional Hollywood musical extravaganza based on the chorus line concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Williams is not scoring this ? it means he's retiring after episode 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 No it doesn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Or that he's done with adapting other composers' material. Actually, he told Stevie You need a better composer for this. Then Stevie replied; I know, but Bernstein's all dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 On 2/6/2019 at 10:38 PM, The Illustrious Jerry said: Personally, I think this is terrible idea for Spielberg to undertake at this point. I am not at all interested in the film. But interestingly enough I'm excited to hear what Newman does. I haven't heard too much from him since Ice Age. well, David Newman has many memorable scores, like..wait. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Yeah, I love the score to Wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,466 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 David Newman is a fine composer. Not as original as his brother, perhaps, but damn enjoyable scores on his resume anyway -- FIRE BIRDS, PARADISE, THE PHANTOM, THE AFFAIR OF THE NECKLACE are particular favourites. MATHILDA, WAR OF THE ROSES, ICE AGE are others. Actually, since he doesn't have much of a personal voice, but does pastiche wonderfully (and conducts other people's work quite good), he might be perfectly suited to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Is it bad that I'm only familiar with ICE AGE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 minute ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Is it bad that I'm only familiar with ICE AGE? Nope. His projects are quite random and all over the place. I stated my preference the other day. On 4/22/2019 at 9:09 AM, Disco Stu said: Operation Dumbo Drop ... I'm that score's biggest and only fan On 4/22/2019 at 1:34 PM, Disco Stu said: It's my favorite D. Newman score by far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,466 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Yeah, OPERATION DUMBO DROP is cool too. Forgot to mention that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 Hidden among the recent announcement of all the Disney/Fox blockbuster release changes, it was announced this will release December 18, 2020. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Disney is releasing AVATAR movies the pre-Christmas weekend every odd-numbered year starting in 2021. They are releasing STAR WARS movies the pre-Christmas weekend every even-numbered year starting in 2022. What do they release the pre-Christmas weekend of 2020? WEST SIDE STORY OF COURSE. It's so obvious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I mean Mary Poppins Returns was their big December 2019 release, another throwback musical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 It's basically a Star Wars movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 37,287 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I mean Mary Poppins Returns was their big December 2019 release, another throwback musical. You mean 2018? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Gorge Lucas Tar Wars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 48 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I mean Mary Poppins Returns was their big December 2019 release, another throwback musical. Yeah, makes sense. Ever since Chicago it seems Hollywood always tries to get big musicals in around Christmas for Oscar bait and/or box office. It’s worked like gangbusters (Les Mis, La La Land, Greatest Showman) or fine (Sweeney Todd, Into the Woods, Mary Poppins) enough times to excuse the disasters (Annie, Nine). This year will be Tom Hooper’s Cats... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Christmas 2015: STAR WARS Christmas 2016: STAR WARS Christmas 2017: STAR WARS Christmas 2018: mary poppins Christmas 2019: STAR WARS Christmas 2020: west side story Christmas 2021: AVATAR Christmas 2022: STAR WARS Christmas 2023: AVATAR Christmas 2024: STAR WARS Christmas 2025: AVATAR Christmas 2026: STAR WARS Christmas 2027: AVATAR Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 You work with what ya got! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 How convenient that you didn't start just one year earlier, when Disney's big December was the musical Into the Woods! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,466 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I'm terrible at following production updates and that kind of stuff. But yikes, it's one and a half YEAR untill WSS premieres? I thought it was just around the corner, relatively speaking. For those in the know, is Spielberg multi-tasking and doing other projects that we can look forward to before that? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 49 minutes ago, Thor said: I'm terrible at following production updates and that kind of stuff. But yikes, it's one and a half YEAR untill WSS premieres? I thought it was just around the corner, relatively speaking. For those in the know, is Spielberg multi-tasking and doing other projects that we can look forward to before that? This is actually really really really late for Spielberg. Spielberg is a very quick worker. He turned around the Post in literally 7 months or so. So it is surprising. This should not even have a ton of CGI. Most of it will be medium shot dancing and singing scenes. Or perhaps Spielberg has something pretty big planned. There's no reason this couldn't be finished and released this year. The music is done. It's not like they need to write new stuff. It is already written and orchestrated. They just need to get an orchestra together and record it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 The release date could very well have been the decision of a Disney executive, and not Spielberg himself. And he could always finish and turn in the movie early, and they could just sit on the finished film until release. And no, he has no other films in preproduction right now, and only Indy 5 has a release date attached to it out of anything he's been attached to. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 Yeah, I think Disney just wants it to be a holiday release and don’t want it up against Star Wars. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s done and moved onto Indy (or whatever else) by early next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe Brausam 214 Posted May 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2019 I’m surprised people seem “eh” about the David Newman announcement. Nobody mentioned, but he has conducted the vast majority of the live to film performances of the original WSS film - he’s actually a perfect choice and should know the score very intimately at this point. Bayesian, Cerebral Cortex and Jurassic Shark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,301 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Jay said: And he could always finish and turn in the movie early, and they could just sit on the finished film until release. I think that's probably the case. He'll finish WSS before the end of this year/early next year, then devote his full attention to developing Indy 5 in the hope of shooting that by mid-2020. That's the only way he can turn around that film for its July 2021 release. Was very surprised it wasn't delayed despite the rumours of the latest Kasdan script being tossed out and started from scratch. They must be reasonably confident it's going to happen? Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 13 hours ago, Jay said: Christmas 2015: STAR WARS Christmas 2016: STAR WARS Christmas 2017: STAR WARS Christmas 2018: mary poppins Christmas 2019: STAR WARS Christmas 2020: west side story Christmas 2021: AVATAR Christmas 2022: STAR WARS Christmas 2023: AVATAR Christmas 2024: STAR WARS Christmas 2025: AVATAR Christmas 2026: STAR WARS Christmas 2027: AVATAR Add Marvel movies, mix it with Disney live-action-ization of classic animations, add a pinch of potential new IPs and there you have it. This is the new Hollywood. I very much hope the Criterion Channel will arrive soon in my country so I can really forget about anything new and spend my time with true cinema classics. However, I'll grab my popcorn to see Disney forcing Cameron to release 4 films in 6 years... considering he usually takes 10 years to make just one. 7 hours ago, mrbellamy said: Yeah, I think Disney just wants it to be a holiday release and don’t want it up against Star Wars. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s done and moved onto Indy (or whatever else) by early next year. "Untitled Indiana Jones Film" is still set for July 9, 2021. But it still looks a dubious release date considering they have just commissioned a new script and there's a lot of people that have to give the green-light before anything move forward. So we'll see. 9 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: This is actually really really really late for Spielberg. Spielberg is a very quick worker. He turned around the Post in literally 7 months or so. So it is surprising. This should not even have a ton of CGI. Most of it will be medium shot dancing and singing scenes. Or perhaps Spielberg has something pretty big planned. There's no reason this couldn't be finished and released this year. The music is done. It's not like they need to write new stuff. It is already written and orchestrated. They just need to get an orchestra together and record it. Producing, preparing, filming, editing and finishing a big movie musical ain't a cakewalk. Considering what they have to achieve, just filming could potentially be scheduled between 90 and 120 days at the very least. Spielberg is a fast shooter, so he won't indulge in a long filming schedule, but this ain't The Post or Bridge of Spies, it's gonna be much bigger and more ambitious. I expect Spielberg working on it as long as he can. While of course they're using Bernstein's original Broadway score, the music still has to be prepared, synced, conformed and recorded to the new film. It's quite a major feat, it's not just dusting off an old score and record it fresh. Newman will also write any new incidental score the film might need. By the way, the release date is something that was likely concurred between Amblin and Disney. Releasing it at Christmastime makes sense for a box office perspective. However, the listing relased yesterday by WDS is just a list of potential dates. They can be pushed back or forward any time. It's something they need to make public mostly to reassure investors and make some media noise. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, TownerFan said: I very much hope the Criterion Channel will arrive soon in my country so I can really forget about anything new and spend my time with true cinema classics. Same here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 They'll never let that happen in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,466 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 There is no "Criterion Channel", as far as I know, but mubi.com fills some of that potential (albeit a curated selection of films every month rather than thousands upon thousands of titles available all at once). Highly recommended if you want a break from all the AVATARs and STAR WARSes and Marvels and what-have-you. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 I am a subscriber of Mubi and I enjoy it a lot Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Perhaps I'll have to check that out. What's the monthly subscription price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 9 hours ago, Thor said: There is no "Criterion Channel", as far as I know https://www.criterionchannel.com/ 10 hours ago, TownerFan said: Spielberg is a fast shooter, so he won't indulge in a long filming schedule, but this ain't The Post or Bridge of Spies, it's gonna be much bigger and more ambitious. It is sometimes hard to really guess with him, though. He shot Saving Private Ryan in the same number of days as Bridge of Spies (less than 3 months) Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,466 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Perhaps I'll have to check that out. What's the monthly subscription price? Monthly: 99 NOK/month Yearly: 69 NOK/month So basically the cost of a beer on the town (which is the benchmark I use for all things). 1 minute ago, mrbellamy said: https://www.criterionchannel.com/ Ha! Whaddayaknow! Didn't know that. Seems pretty closely molded on MUBI's interface. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Thor said: So basically the cost of a beer on the town (which is the benchmark I use for all things). Alcohol is extremely expensive in Norway though. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 So is all other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 5 hours ago, TownerFan said: Add Marvel movies, mix it with Disney live-action-ization of classic animations, add a pinch of potential new IPs and there you have it. This is the new Hollywood. I very much hope the Criterion Channel will arrive soon in my country so I can really forget about anything new and spend my time with true cinema classics. Here is the Russo brothers themselves on this subject, giving a pretty honest answer from their perspective Quote Joe: Here’s where it’s all headed, and I think social media was the driver for all of this: There’s a very clear metric between generating conversation and box-office revenue. With all of the quality content you can get in your home and given that [streaming companies are] only going to increase what they’re spending on that content, getting people out of the house requires a special experience. That’s why movies are becoming more event-sized. Marvel is creating this emotional connection with its audience—it has done so over a decade, and there’s emotional capital invested. This generation is more invested in serialized storytelling than they are in two-hour narratives. Joe: We’re children of the ’70s and ’80s, the golden era of auteur filmmaking. We love it, but at some point the impressionists have to step aside, and the next group of artists has to show up and paint in a different way. I think this generation of viewers is going to change the way that we perceive narrative because audiences are so facile in the way they consume content. Whether it be on Twitter in 30 seconds, on YouTube in five minutes, on Netflix, at the theater, they all value different experiences, but they value a connection and, above all, a conversation. That’s why I think movies in the middle have sort of disappeared, because they don’t drive conversation the same way that event movies do, and they don’t drive it on a global scale the way event movies do. https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2019/05/russo-brothers-interview-avengers-marvel-endgame/588832/ Essentially, if you're not a franchise IP that appeals to the important demos, you're going to a streaming service on TV. Corellian2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 What if you need a date movie at the cinema but your crush isn't interested in big blockbusters and she prefers a calmer, middle of the road movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 383 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Quote Joe: We’re children of the ’70s and ’80s, the golden era of auteur filmmaking. We love it, but at some point the impressionists have to step aside, and the next group of artists has to show up and paint in a different way. I think this generation of viewers is going to change the way that we perceive narrative because audiences are so facile in the way they consume content. Whether it be on Twitter in 30 seconds, on YouTube in five minutes, on Netflix, at the theater, they all value different experiences, but they value a connection and, above all, a conversation. That’s why I think movies in the middle have sort of disappeared, because they don’t drive conversation the same way that event movies do, and they don’t drive it on a global scale the way event movies do. The only emoji this deserves is a vomit face, but since this forum doesn't include one, I had to settle for a sad face. Sickening how the studios/corporations and their creative lackeys, the "successful" directors, attempt to deflect blame for catering to adolescent tastes and enabling fanboy culture over the years. This guy considers himself part of a group of artists? Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 18 hours ago, mrbellamy said: https://www.criterionchannel.com/ It is sometimes hard to really guess with him, though. He shot Saving Private Ryan in the same number of days as Bridge of Spies (less than 3 months) He's a fast shooter absolutely. On set he's not Finchering - looking to find the film or something. He has every single take, edit, shot, set-up figured out. When he gets on to the set, he's just quickly shooting economically exactly what he wants. He does not have to do re-shoots. He knows exactly what he wants. And his movies cut together quickly because he edits "in camera". In short, he's a proper old fashioned genius filmmaker. Even with this being more ambitious, Speilberg would absolutely be able to turn this around for this year. So I do agree with those stating it's a studio mandated date and not his choice. Bilbo and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Zzzzzzzzz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,359 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 2 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: He's a fast shooter absolutely. On set he's not Finchering - looking to find the film or something. He has every single take, edit, shot, set-up figured out. When he gets on to the set, he's just quickly shooting economically exactly what he wants. He does not have to do re-shoots. He knows exactly what he wants. And his movies cut together quickly because he edits "in camera". In short, he's a proper old fashioned genius filmmaker. Even with this being more ambitious, Speilberg would absolutely be able to turn this around for this year. So I do agree with those stating it's a studio mandated date and not his choice. If he’s such an efficient filmmaker, he really should try to get WSS in the can as soon as possible and move onto another project before Indy 5 ramps up. And I know of a certain composer he could use who’s free after December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Corellian2019 said: The only emoji this deserves is a vomit face, but since this forum doesn't include one, I had to settle for a sad face. Hmm it used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Geez, does Jerry have to fix everything on this site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 10 hours ago, Corellian2019 said: The only emoji this deserves is a vomit face, but since this forum doesn't include one Um Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 On 5/8/2019 at 4:03 AM, TownerFan said: Spielberg is a fast shooter, That's what Amy Irving said in the divorce papers.😄😱 A24 and Disco Stu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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