Romão 2,274 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 He's probably playing the adult Edgardo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,310 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 2 hours ago, Romão said: He's probably playing the adult Edgardo My thoughts as well. Spielberg's assembling one hell of a team for this film. Sounding great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted July 16, 2016 Author Share Posted July 16, 2016 I've seen some people speculate that he could be playing the father. Would be cool if he has a role that lets us see him and Rylance together a fair amount. Those two will certainly know what to do with Tony Kushner dialogue. Whatever one's opinion of Lincoln and Bridge of Spies, I do feel like Spielberg's direction of actors has become more astute than ever. Lately he seems to love simply watching people talk more than anything, even in The BFG. It's like he looked back at his career and suddenly realized he never made a great chamber drama, perhaps a type of film he always admired but never thought was in his wheelhouse until now. He's never exactly been Sidney Lumet or Mike Nichols in that respect, but he is so naturally crafty and such an underrated director of actors that I am curious if he has it in him to make a talky masterpiece. The kind of movie that has the dramatic quality and atmosphere of a scene like this throughout its running time: He made a strong go of it with Lincoln, a fantastic screenplay that was held back somewhat IMO by an unusually reserved and objective directorial approach....which on some level is what you want but somehow it could have used a little more fire. But it has individually great scenes and you do get these bursts of outrage or dialogue-chewing from DDL or Tommy Lee Jones that are just so impressive that you feel like, if Spielberg could only channel all that energy from his blockbusters, epics, and thrillers into the entirety of his dramas he might be on to something. Munich had a lot of nerve, but that also allowed him to be in his element with a built-in action/suspense component, same with Schindler's sense of scope. Could Spielberg ever make his 12 Angry Men, Network, The Verdict? I think Kushner's good for him, though, his writing has such a strong vitality and POV that I feel like there's still a lot of potential for Spielberg to really bring it, cinematically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Filming will begin in February 2017 in Bologna, Italy: http://deadline.com/2016/09/steven-spielberg-the-kidnapping-of-edgardo-mortara-leone-film-group-mark-rylance-oscar-isaac-1201814431/ Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 But will Williams score it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I guess he will, unless EpVIII schedule will go crazy with too many rewrites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,310 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 RPO: November-February VIII: March-September KOEM: October-December RPO Pickups: January-March 2018 Also, I hate to say it, but on the surface this story seems remarkably dull to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 This film is Thomas newman bait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,310 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 If Williams can't do it, one of the Newmans can! I want more Rey's Theme! I think there'll be some extensive choir pieces if JW scores this. Given the time period and location, it has the potential to be a goldmine for Williams, probably the type of score very few modern composers actually have the classical musical literacy to write. I'm guessing he would channel the operatic romanticism of 19th century Italian composers; fitting for that era. Certainly uncharted territory for both Spielberg and Williams, so that's exciting I guess. Once and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Harvey Weinstein is preparing another film on the same subject, with Robert De Niro set to star: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steven-spielberg-harvey-weinstein-prep-928387 Typical Hollywood craziness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 On 9/15/2016 at 4:45 AM, TownerFan said: Harvey Weinstein is preparing another film on the same subject, with Robert De Niro set to star: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steven-spielberg-harvey-weinstein-prep-928387 Typical Hollywood craziness. What the... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 It's not the first time such things happen. They seem to happen with regular intervals (DEEP IMPACT/ARMAGEDDON, ROBIN HOOD: PRINCE OF THIEVES/ROBIN HOOD, JOBS/STEVE JOBS, THE CAVE/THE DESCENT, DANTE'S PEAK/VOLCANO and so on). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 That's just a start! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_films Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 14 hours ago, Jay said: That's just a start! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_films Indeed, although some of those are a bit of a stretch. Yes, both THE ROAD and THE BOOK OF ELI are postapocalyptic films, but that's pretty much where the similarity ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 There is a difference between movies based on similar ideas and movies based on the exact same idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 David Kertzer, author of the novel, tweeted this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Battle of the Hollywood Jews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Anti-semite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Yeah, I'm not sure how that "rights" stuff works. I can understand two movies being made about he same subject if they're based on different sources, but how can different studios make a movie on the same novel if the rights are with Spielberg? Same thing I don't get about The Jungle Book. Doesn't Disney have the rights, how is another movie coming out next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 43 minutes ago, nightscape94 said: Same thing I don't get about The Jungle Book. Doesn't Disney have the rights, how is another movie coming out next year? What do you mean? Next year's JUNGLE BOOK 2 is Disney's sequel to the film this year, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 There is no Jungle Book film coming out next year There is one coming out in 2018 that is directed by Andy Serkis, and is completely unrelated to any of the Disney films https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungle_Book_(2018_film) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Yeah, that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted October 1, 2016 Author Share Posted October 1, 2016 2 hours ago, nightscape94 said: Yeah, I'm not sure how that "rights" stuff works. I can understand two movies being made about he same subject if they're based on different sources, but how can different studios make a movie on the same novel if the rights are with Spielberg? Same thing I don't get about The Jungle Book. Doesn't Disney have the rights, how is another movie coming out next year? I'm definitely not an expert on copyright, but I think that Spielberg having the book means that he only has rights to Kertzer's interpretation and account of the Mortara story (for example if Kertzer invented any dialogue, Tony Kushner could use that) plus they get the book's title, but since the story itself is true and has been documented by so many sources, I don't think Kertzer could claim that Weinstein is infringing on his specific copyrighted work just by making a movie about the case. Also Jungle Book is public domain now, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 8 hours ago, Jay said: There is no Jungle Book film coming out next year There is one coming out in 2018 that is directed by Andy Serkis, and is completely unrelated to any of the Disney films https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungle_Book_(2018_film) Yes, Jon Favreau has THE JUNGLE BOOK 2 out next year: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5626032/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted October 1, 2016 Author Share Posted October 1, 2016 A sequel is in the works but not for next year. There was no release date announced. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 OK, you're right. I see that no concrete date has been given yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 They forgot about an animated reboot. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 The sequel to Favreau's film is planned for 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Amblin Announces Casting Call for Title Character in “The Kidnapping of Edgardo Mortara” The article mentions "The film will shoot in Europe beginning April, 2017", so if all goes to plan it seems it will be finished in time to come out by the end of this year. So, Williams should be able to score it in between Episode 8 main scoring, and any last minute Episode 8 rewrites. BuzzLightyear and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Apparently DeNiro is in the film? Unconfirmed at this point, of course Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 De Niro in a Spielberg film! Ooooh, tantalizing indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Zzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, Thor said: De Niro in a Spielberg film! Ooooh, tantalizing indeed. Not after Dirty Grandpa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 On 9/12/2016 at 5:39 PM, Jay said: But will Williams score it? Just a reminder that that question hasn't been officially answered yet, since there seems to be an assumption that he will. After TLJ, only Ready Player One and Indiana Jones 5 have been confirmed to be scored by Williams. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 FYI, shooting will take place all in Italy starting next April. Local casting agencies are already at work to find extras. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Williams probably won't "officially" be brought on board until they've actually begun filming and the film will actually happen crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 7 hours ago, Ricard said: Just a reminder that that question hasn't been officially answered yet, since there seems to be an assumption that he will. I really hope he's able to score it. In some ways, I'm actually looking forward to it more than VIII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 It's been easy to forget that (barring unexpected developments, of course) this will be our next Williams score release, even before TLJ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 605 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I think the inclusion of De Niro is a mix-up. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I wonder what angle Williams would approach this from culturally. Will it feature religious choral and/or Italian influences or will it be more of a "vanilla" drama score in the vein of The Book Thief/Angela's Ashes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 15 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: religious choral and/or Italian influences I'm betting on this. Or at least it's what I've been imagining. I doubt Spielberg would settle for a "regular" drama score. He may request a religious flavor. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 30 minutes ago, Will said: I'm betting on this. Or at least it's what I've been imagining. I doubt Spielberg would settle for a "regular" drama score. He may request a religious flavor. That would be ideal. Williams hasn't done much choral music lately (apart from a couple isolated examples such as "Appomattox, April 9th, 1865" and the low-male droning of "Snoke") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 This Edgardo, do they finally find him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Mortara, who is he? Is he a passenger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 10 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: I wonder what angle Williams would approach this from culturally. Will it feature religious choral and/or Italian influences or will it be more of a "vanilla" drama score in the vein of The Book Thief/Angela's Ashes? You literally just put one of Williams' weakest scores (THE BOOK THIEF) next to one of his strongest (ANGELA'S ASHES). But yeah -- I'm also curious about how he would approach this. If there's any religiousity in it, that would be tremendous -- it is, after all, my favourite "sound" of his. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,310 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Given that religious identity is the central theme of the story, I can't see how Williams would overlook it. Both the Jewish and Italian aspects. The Pope is one of the lead characters. JW rarely misses a chance to infuse religious/cultural instrumentation into his scores with a focus on religion. Schindler's List and Munich being obvious examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 10 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: I wonder what angle Williams would approach this from culturally. Will it feature religious choral and/or Italian influences or will it be more of a "vanilla" drama score in the vein of The Book Thief/Angela's Ashes? Well, the story takes place in mid-19th century Italy, the period when Giuseppe Verdi was at the height of his power... It'd be very nice indeed if Williams will put some genuine Italian operatic flair into it. It's known he loves Italian opera composers, so perhaps he will pour some of that into the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Really looking forward to this, it's a fascinating story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 56 minutes ago, TownerFan said: Well, the story takes place in mid-19th century Italy, the period when Giuseppe Verdi was at the height of his power... It'd be very nice indeed if Williams will put some genuine Italian operatic flair into it. It's known he loves Italian opera composers, so perhaps he will pour some of that into the score. Morricone would be a better choice for this film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Nice, and now a Schindler's List prequel ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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