Arpy 4,145 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Sausage anyone? Clemmenson is still an enemy. He brushes many of my personal favorite cues aside and labels them trash. His word is final it seems. No one dare contradict him. Or else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 He sounds like me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 He kind of does, actually. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 He kind of does, actually. KarolWe contradict Stefan on daily basis. Hence the huge post count. He has to call everybody idiot at least once a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Can someone be an idiot more than once a day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Only Stefan knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Only Martha Knows (begins to whistle even though it never appeared in the episode) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 I eagerly await Clemmy's reviews. However, he has an annoying habit of wheaving a political rant in his reviews at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Flying With Mother (Film Version/Mix) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Lovely! Each time I listen to it I love it even more, one of THE Powell cues of his career. I specially love the "jazzy" part on the middle, with the relaxing percussion and the chilling choir. Great stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Love the part at 1:47! My favorite theme from the film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 You mean Hiccup's theme?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 You mean Hiccup's theme?KarolAh so that is what it is. Nice to discover new stuff about this score still. I just saw the film and the score worked brilliantly and really brought home the themes of the film.I still wonder why didn't Cate Blanchett sing the For the Dancing and the Dreaming herself. Perhaps she doesn't have that good of a singing voice then. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I think it is, it may be also exploration/map theme. But because it underscores Hiccup's interaction with his mother in this sequence and him in other scenes I thought it must be related to him specifically. The main theme in that cue, sung by chorus, is called "lost and found" theme. Which represents many different plot points in the film.I like Alpha theme very much - second part of track 7. A darker variation (related to evil Alpha) you can hear at the beginning of the battle cue.Courting song also appears as a theme in the score. Not only in Stoick's funeral, but at the very beginning of Hiccup confronts Alpha scene.Drago's theme you know.And there are few others I can't recall at the moment. But there are definitely around a dozen of them in the score ot more (including the ones from first film).Karol Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 You mean Hiccup's theme?KarolHiccup's/Toothless I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Yeah that Hiccup/Exploration theme was perhaps the one I was least actively aware of but yes it is featured throughout. Powell keeps juggling a lot of material in the film and on the album. Watching the film clarified a lot of thematics of the score for me, as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Incanus, I was also wondering why Blanchett didn't sing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 At first I thought it's maybe because she had never sung before (at least according to IMDb) but the song it's sung on purpose a little "off-key" to make it feel more sincere instead of a squeak-clean Broadway number. So I don't see why she didn't want to do it; maybe she just wasn't available when those recording sessions took place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 You mean Hiccup's theme?KarolHiccup already has a theme....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 He had a theme that represented his bond with Toothless, but not his own. That's how I see it.But that's all incorrect anyway, because Powell doesn't like to associate themes with characters. That's not how he thinks.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 He had a theme that represented his bond with Toothless, but not his own. That's how I see it.KarolAgain he already had a theme.It even appears in the the second film linked to Hiccup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Again, John Powell doesn't really write themes for characters. So we're both wrong.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 FSM interview.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Ah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 He associates themes with ideas and plot points.But, out of curiosity, which theme from the first score would you associate with Hiccup?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 He associates themes with ideas and plot points.But, out of curiosity, which theme from the first score would you associate with Hiccup?KarolThe theme that plays while Hiccup is falling down the mast of Eret's ship and later while Astrid is talking to Drago. (0:49) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 OK, you may have a point. So what would the new theme represent then? Is it a map theme? Or is it another theme for Hiccup, the older one?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I consider it a type of Map/Exploration/Discovery/Family theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 We don't really disagree then. Notice how all these things relate to Hiccup's character in the second film. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Is anybody else planning to edit the ending down? The final shot and the closing bars of John Powell's score are chill inducing... at least until the horrible pop song kicks in accompanied by awkward comedy and some nonsense about them being "warriors for peace". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,676 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Not quite with you there - do you mean removing the Jonsi track from the album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 We don't really disagree then. Notice how all these things relate to Hiccup's character in the second film. KarolYes the new theme in HTYD 2 seems to connect with Hiccup's desire to belong, to know who he is and what is his place in the world. And of course all the stuff Faleel mentioned relates to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jonesy 55 Posted November 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2014 The FYC promo is available on this site:http://www.dwaawards.com/score/ A. A. Ron, crocodile, Incanus and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Ooooh great find! Nearly 75 minutes of pure Powell score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 just shows the main soundtrack already had most of the music from the movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 Woah! I wonder if it's less brickwalled too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 There are some differences, like 'Toothles Comes Back' lacks the intro of 'Toothless Found'not sure which one is closer to the movie version then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 There seems to be a slight mixing mistake on the middle part of "Hiccup and Toothless Attacked", when the female choir sings solo Valka's theme. One of the choir sections seems to play a little later than the other one. Now, I don't know if this was a desired effect, but as it isn't on album I'm guessing it was an error of some kind. Apart from that, this sounds so damn good. Finally we have "Me Likey"! And also, that Astrid's theme heroic variation on "I Grew Facial Hair for You" is breathtaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 And also, that Astrid's theme heroic variation on "I Grew Facial Hair for You" is breathtaking.Cool title, too.Yeah I was thinking exactly the same thing. And yes the promo shows that main meat of the score is indeed on the OST. The additions on the promo are quite short in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 What quality are the mp3s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 192 kbps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 There seems to be a slight mixing mistake on the middle part of "Hiccup and Toothless Attacked", when the female choir sings solo Valka's theme. One of the choir sections seems to play a little later than the other one. Now, I don't know if this was a desired effect, but as it isn't on album I'm guessing it was an error of some kind. Well that is unfortunate. I wonder if the error will be discovered, and the file replaced on the website eventually?192 kbps.Jeez, that is also unfortunate. Shouldn't they provide the best quality possible if they want academy members to vote for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I doubt the academy members would hear a difference, or that their votes would be different if the sound quality was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I doubt the academy members would hear a difference, or that their votes would be different if the sound quality was better.And Powell is not nearly as exotic sounding a name to have even a snowflake's chance in hell to win an Oscar for Best Score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 Really the nomination is more of an honor than the win when it comes to the Best Score Oscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Woah! I wonder if it's less brickwalled tooYes.Nice to hear the unmicroedited Dragon Racing cue.There seems to be a slight mixing mistake on the middle part of "Hiccup and Toothless Attacked", when the female choir sings solo Valka's theme. One of the choir sections seems to play a little later than the other one. Now, I don't know if this was a desired effect, but as it isn't on album I'm guessing it was an error of some kind.Also note that an instrument is missing in the film/fyc version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Nice, will check it out. It is a fantastic score.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Nice to hear Drago's theme forshadowed "properly" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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