BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Just now, Romão said: Those were not the examples I was thinking about Then, what were you thinking about? The only real, in-your-face fan service moment to me was Spoiler The two guys from the Mos Eisley cantina showing up on Jedha. And Vader's castle being on Mustafar, I suppose. Oh, and I guess Saw Gerrera, too. The rest was more in-the-background stuff, that can easily be missed if you're not a true SW fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,790 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 minute ago, BloodBoal said: Then, what were you thinking about? The only real, in-your-face fan service moment to me was Reveal hidden contents The two guys from the Mos Eisley cantina showing up on Jedha. And Vader's castle being on Mustafar, I suppose. Oh, and I guess Saw Gerrera, too. The rest was more in-the-background stuff, that can easily be missed if you're not a true SW fan. Spoiler the pair of droids. Could have been just walking in the background without C3PO stating the obvious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,268 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Just now, BloodBoal said: Then, what were you thinking about? The only real, in-your-face fan service moment to me was Hide contents The two guys from the Mos Eisley cantina showing up on Jedha. And Vader's castle being on Mustafar, I suppose. Oh, and I guess Saw Gerrera, too. The rest was more in-the-background stuff, that can easily be missed if you're not a true SW fan. Spoiler The C-3PO and R2 Cameo, like Manuel Said. Bail mentioning, without actually saying the names, Obi-Wan and Leia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,268 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 It's fan service. It something that has absolutely no relevance to the story being told. It's something that does not stand on its own, unless viewed through the lenses of the movie that follows. If you took all those moments out, the movie would lose absolutely nothing A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 11 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: Still too much. It's still typical Star Wars, to a point that you've seen it all before, but it's less a carbon copy that TFA is. I think our brains just work differently. For me, a film is not defined by its plot points. TFA followed a lot of previous Star Wars plot points but while coloring in with refreshing new characters and tone and visuals that all fit comfortably in the existing universe. I'll defend it as the 3rd best Star Wars to my grave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,790 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I'm with merkel. There could have been there with different execution. Bail's talk about leia was very strange.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,306 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 8 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I think our brains just work differently. For me, a film is not defined by its plot points. TFA followed a lot of previous Star Wars plot points but while coloring in with refreshing new characters and tone and visuals that all fit comfortably in the existing universe. I'll defend it as the 3rd best Star Wars to my grave! Indeed, different brains. To me, TFA wasn't new and refreshing at all. I can convert everything you see in TFA to earlier films with ease. It's not because Rey is a girl that she isn't Luke Skywalker. Et cetera ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,612 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 hour ago, BloodBoal said: What is "THE" sentence? I have a bad feeling about this? May the force be with you? I'm your father? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO? Wessa gonna die? "Where's the beef?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,045 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,304 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 This article sums up pretty well the limitations of Jyn's character. http://ew.com/movies/2016/12/21/rogue-one-star-wars-nostalgia-jyn-erso/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,045 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Article lost me when he started talking about a gender flipped A New Hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,304 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Yea, I'd skip all that nonsense. It was just a hypothetical situation he was setting up to eventually compare Luke and Jyn against each other again and how the former is free of the plot-driven limitations of the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 hour ago, KK said: This article sums up pretty well the limitations of Jyn's character. http://ew.com/movies/2016/12/21/rogue-one-star-wars-nostalgia-jyn-erso/ Quote (When people play Hamlet, nobody thinks they should do a whole play about Hamlet with the pirates, or what life was like when Hamlet’s dad was King.) Better tell Tom Stoppard, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Interesting article. I didn't even think about the Jyn Erso / Jan Ohrs connection. http://www.pcgamer.com/four-ways-that-rogue-one-plays-homage-to-star-wars-pc-games/?utm_content=bufferd17ce&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamerfb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Quintus 5,399 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Smith has probably already rewatched that scene a dozen times via the YouTube bootleg versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 So he's your kind of nerd? I bet you showed it to Brucey countless times! http://epicstream.com/news/The-Huge-Mistake-Rogue-One-Makes-According-to-Star-Wars-Title-Designer The standalone film doesn't have an opening title and text crawl, and the man who spent a lot of time trying to make a version that George Lucas liked, thought it was a mistake. Frankly, it is a huge mistake, because the image is so iconic and it's so important to tens of millions, hundreds of millions of fans. I couldn't imagine it starting without that. It's foolish. Frankly I don't agree. Disney will make loads of these, and not every one will require a title crawl to set up events. Also it will simply get a bit boring after a while. I'm not sure Rogue One's cold opening worked though. That almost felt like they cut out the title crawl at the last minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nick1Ø66 4,667 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Just saw this, and enjoyed it more than I thought I would. A bit disjointed at times, and definitely sags a bit in the middle, but the last third was classic Star Wars and I was on the edge of my seat. Some of the most stunning visuals every in a SW film, and I'd say the best space battle. Gia's score, which I've been listening to all week, did the job better than it has a right to. I think I got every OT reference, and it was clearly the most nostalgia driven of the Star Wars films made since the OT. It might just be a little sad that my favourite parts were those call backs...I'm not sure I would have enjoyed it nearly as much without them. The old "found footage" of the rebel pilots worked great, and I spotted it right away. The CGI Tarkin and Leia, however, took me out of the movie every time and I don't think it's going to stand the test of time. Again, the film did feel a bit cobbled together and tonally inconsistent, a product of the reshoots I imagine. What's the board consensus on this film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 There doesn't seem to be much of a consensus, really. Some loved it, some found it to be unremarkable, and then, you have the wiser members, such as myself, who liked the movie for what it was, while still acknowledging its flaws, and admitting it could have been more than what it ended up being. A. A. Ron and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,019 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Hey, that makes me wise. I'm wise, I'm wise, I'm wise! - Data, probably seeing the film a second time tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 5 hours ago, BloodBoal said: There doesn't seem to be much of a consensus, really. Some loved it, some found it to be unremarkable, and then, you have the wiser members, such as myself, who liked the movie for what it was, while still acknowledging its flaws, and admitting it could have been more than what it ended up being. Me me me!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I still haven't seen it. Maybe some day if shows up on the USA Network on a Sunday morning. Everyone's saying it's the best one since Empire, but they said that about Attack of the Clones. Fuck this, I'm watching Star Trek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,045 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 "Everyone" is not saying that, not even close. Most here seem to prefer TFA over it. RuBen_Kenobi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I have seen sprawling reactions to it outside this forum, often attached to comments that "it was the way to do Star Wars unlike J.J's trash" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,621 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 2 hours ago, RPurton said: I have seen sprawling reactions to it outside this forum, often attached to comments that "it was the way to do Star Wars unlike J.J's trash" Meh, sounds mostly like prequel fanboys who like the film because Bail Organa is in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Why were there reshoots? Was the first cut supposedly no good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Not Mr. Big said: Meh, sounds mostly like prequel fanboys who like the film because Bail Organa is in it. Surprisingly they're people who dislike the prequels too. You can't please everyone, not today at any rate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Rogue One's worldwide box office is $706,054,705 according to BoxOffice Mojo. Nothing to balk about, but certainly not extraordinary for a big blockbuster franchise film over the holiday season. It will probably do over 1 billion, but not much more. So well worth Disney's and Lucasfilms time and effort, but far far short of TFA miney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 That's... good to know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 So far Disney will be chuffed with their purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 41 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Rogue One's worldwide box office is $706,054,705 according to BoxOffice Mojo. Nothing to balk about, but certainly not extraordinary for a big blockbuster franchise film over the holiday season. It will probably do over 1 billion, but not much more. So well worth Disney's and Lucasfilms time and effort, but far far short of TFA miney. You make it seem like this was unexpected and disappointing? This is a very good show for a spin-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 No, I think Rogue One doing exactly as well as one would expect and no better or worse. Disney will certainly be content. It's making money and satisfying the target group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,612 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 The Force Awakens was an outlier, and I don't think anybody expected R1 to match it. R1 has already topped Captain America: Civil War, and will end up second for the year to Finding Dory. I'm pretty sure that Disney is pretty happy with the situation of all three of those movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,045 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I was just looking at this year's biggest box office movies in the US http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2016&p=.htm 19 out of the top 20 are either animated movies, or part of a huge franchise. The only outlier is Central freaking Intelligence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Yeah, that, Sully, and Arrival are the only ones in the top 30 that aren't either animated or sequels. Most of the creators of interesting, original stories have gone to television it seems, where there's so much money going into so many new shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 37,045 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 16 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Yeah, that, Sully, and Arrival are the only ones in the top 30 that aren't either animated or sequels. And Bad Moms, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,612 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Disney had 4 of the top 5, and 6 of the top 10 movies (domestically) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 The Mouse rules supreme! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,045 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, mstrox said: Disney had 4 of the top 5, and 6 of the top 10 movies (domestically) Compared to last year, when Universal had 3 of the top 6, and 6 of the top 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,268 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 9 hours ago, mstrox said: The Force Awakens was an outlier, and I don't think anybody expected R1 to match it. R1 has already topped Captain America: Civil War, and will end up second for the year to Finding Dory. I'm pretty sure that Disney is pretty happy with the situation of all three of those movies. It will easily outgross Finding Dory and become 2016's highest grossing movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,235 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Romão said: It will easily outgross Finding Dory and become 2016's highest grossing movie Yeah, it's outpacing Dory's US box office by a couple weeks, with similar opening weekend grosses. It'll probably move up to #1 this weekend or next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,612 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 10 hours ago, mrbellamy said: Yeah, it's outpacing Dory's US box office by a couple weeks, with similar opening weekend grosses. It'll probably move up to #1 this weekend or next. True, but that's 2017 money! 2016 belongs to the fish! BTW, watched Finding Dory last Friday - it was pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Rise of the apes: how Rogue One's strange birth lays bare Hollywood's imagination drought https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2017/jan/04/rogue-one-hollywood-imagination-drought-star-wars?CMP=fb_gu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Tell us something we don't know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Sometimes I'm so scared I don't even wanna go outside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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