Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Yesterday marked the 25th anniversary of "Star Trek: V". For some, this might be an anniversary they would chose to forget, but...is the film really that bad? 2014 marks the 25th anniversary of many successful and influential films (of which "ST:V" was neither). So...what other 25th anniversaries will JWfan-ers be celebratng, film wise?Cosmic thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Well I'll be damned. A marshmelon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsRwg0Mul7A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I have a quiet liking for the film. Far from perfect but it has a certain charm. Personally, I take this over the latest offerings. It at the very least ends with the Jerry Goldsmith theme.This usually prompts a flick through Shatner's Movie Memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Star Trek V is a deeply flawed film, with a very dodgy script. The concept of The Enterprise looking for God simply doesnt work. Not in Roddenberry's Atheist 23th century vision.The special effects range from mediocre to poor. The Next Generation had better shots in that same year that some of whats used in that film.But the film has oodles of character and charm, and I've always been willing to brush of it's fllaws becasue of that.The cast, both the regulars and guest stars are all superb, and yes, Shatner swaggers more then usual because he's directing himself.It's also the only original cast film that has the famous trio Kirk, Spock and McCoy together throughout almost all of the film.Which is another reason why the film kinda feels like a TOS season 3 episode.And a brilliant score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Great score! I liked the movie up until they reached the Great Barrier then it shot itself in the foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I agree. The movie doesnt go anywhere after that. But how can it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 My favourite Star Trek movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 For some, this might be an anniversary they would chose to forget, but...is the film really that bad?Yes. The film is really . . . that . . . bad.As a Trek fan, I've tried--really, I have--to "brush off" its flaws. I honestly hoped it would improve with age, at least reaching the status of some sort of guilty half-pleasure.But no. This one sucks. In cringeworthy fashion, which just makes it painful to watch. Nothing about it works. I resent it all the more because it makes me resent it so much.Of course, I'm speaking solely about the movie itself. If nothing else, it gave us yet another great Goldsmith score (with all the requisite Jerrygasms that followed. . . .). It featured the premiere of the new 4-note ST motif, which gets a sort of concerto of its own in A Busy Man. And the music of "The Mountain" deserves an extended treatment of its own.So I think it's well worth celebrating the 25th anniversary of Jerry Goldsmith's score for . . . uh . . . some movie. I forget which one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 But...but...the campfire discussions? Roasting a marchmelon....row row row your boat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 It's a very fine film. No flaws that I am aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 But the film has oodles of character and charm, and I've always been willing to brush of it's fllaws becasue of that. Yes! And a brilliant score. Yes! I'm a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makeshift Python 22 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 The film is pants, but the score is great. My second favorite Trek Goldsmith score behind TMP.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOpkMp5gMb8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 You people have no heart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Faith, my friend. There are more of us than you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 An eternity I have been imprisoned in this place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 Give me what I want, or watch these puny creatures die...horribly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 She has wonderful muscles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 This is a new brig, Captain. It is escape proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Why won't Paramount let Shatner make his director's cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 Your guess, Jay. They just said "no", and that was that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Although not sure which version would have been better at the Great Barrier to the end of the film... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 V is infinitely more watchable than something like Nemesis or Generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 "Sulu out?? What kind of Freudian nightmare is this movie?!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 "Row, row, row your boat gently down the stream..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Takis 206 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 A flawed film that I love, warts and all. Some genuinely great scenes and moments for the Big Three, and Laurence Luckinbill and George Murdock are superb. And that score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Not related to STAR TREK V, but fitting in the general timeframe: a photo i found on FSM featuring Goldsmith, JNH, David Newman and Charles Fox socializing.http://www.asturscore.com/memories-of-jerry-goldsmith/2/ Brónach and Dixon Hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Wow! I didnt know camera's had a panorama function in those days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Probably borrowed a Panavision camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Why won't Paramount let Shatner make his director's cut?Because Paramount wants to forget this movie ever happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 A flawed film that I love, warts and all. Some genuinely great scenes and moments for the Big Three, and Laurence Luckinbill and George Murdock are superb. And that score!Indeed. Star Trek V is a more enjoyable film than a lot of films that have been made today.The character interactions between the cast especially with Kirk, Spock and Bones is instant classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Excuse me. Eeexcuse me. I'd just like to ask a question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makeshift Python 22 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Why won't Paramount let Shatner make his director's cut?Because nothing could improve that film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Why won't Paramount let Shatner make his director's cut?Because nothing could improve that film.How about another scene where they sing "Row, row, row your boat"? That film needs more boats and more rowing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,358 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 ARGH, V is easily the worst of the 6 movies starring the OS cast. The script and SFX issues overshadow whatever good may be in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 And yet I'd still like some kind of Director's Cut even if Paramount don't. Find a way to redo the effects. Someone on YouTube did their own for the film and they're better than what the film had but then I guess it wasn't a big leap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 But I thought Captain Chekov...I see. Very clever, Captain. Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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