BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 40 minutes ago, Scarpia said: I agree, and they can't risk the success of the trilogy by pulling another rehash. People will be expecting a new story. Really? I mean, TFA was a remake of the first film, and still made billions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Most of the general public wouldnt care if they are shown the same story over and over again. Which they are, come to think about it. I mean every film Marvel has done is essentially the same one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Not really, each sky battle has subtle variations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 1 hour ago, BloodBoal said: Really? I mean, TFA was a remake of the first film, and still made billions. 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: Most of the general public wouldnt care if they are shown the same story over and over again. Which they are, come to think about it. I mean every film Marvel has done is essentially the same one. I'm not familiar with the Marvel films, but the fact The Force Awakens rehashes Episode 4 story is tolerated in the understanding that is a first installment that needed to make the connection with the older movies, but I think the trilogy is certainly expected to depart to new grounds. If criticism about the rehash has been significant (still not enough to prevent this movie for making billions), I think a second time would be riskier. At least that's the impression I've got from comments on the internet and talking to people that have seen it here. armorb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I think that a large section of the public really doesnt care that much. You know, the silent majority of people who watch a movie in the cinema, but never take the time to review it, or discuss it on line. Normal folk.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, Scarpia said: I'm not familiar with the Marvel films, but the fact The Force Awakens rehashes Episode 4 story is tolerated in the understanding that is a first installment that needed to make the connection with the older movies, but I think the trilogy is certainly expected to depart to new grounds. If criticism about the rehash has been significant (still not enough to prevent this movie for making billions), I think a second time would be riskier. That's not the definition most big studios have of "risky". Risky, to them, is proposing a completely original story. That's why we get endless remakes and reboots and sequels: because it's safe (well, most of the time). That being said, yes, I'm pretty sure/hopeful they'll do something different with Episode VIII. We'll probably still get some callbacks to the previous films (with some parallels to ESB, inevitably), but most of the story will (again, hopefully!) be something fresh. Scarpia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 It's true, money is the king here. But I completely share your hopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 This addresses the similarities between ANH and TFA. It has a lot if good points. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Is there something left to rip from Empire though? Phasma as a Fett type? Luke training Rey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Luke will probably start out not wanting to train Rey, much like Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,353 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 'Star Wars' Director J.J. Abrams Knows 'Quite a Bit' About Rey’s Secret Identity, Talks 'Episode VIII' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Sigh... Michael Giacchino confirmed to score Star Wars VIII? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 On 1/12/2016 at 6:14 PM, Stefancos said: Luke will probably start out not wanting to train Rey, much like Yoda And that's about it. Although looking at TFA I wouldn't be surprised if they do AGAIN another climatic scene over a chasm about familiar matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Lewya said: Sigh... Michael Giacchino confirmed to score Star Wars VIII? He thinks Giacchino is the greatest of all time, or an actual goat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I don't get what that video has to do with anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 It's just a joke. "Going to Chino" --> "Giacchino" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Hm, apparently someone in Chino won $1.5 billion or something, I hope that was it. http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jan/14/powerball-winning-numbers-jackpot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 She was what mother called "new money". crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,313 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 So, Mr. Johnson, you think it's funny to toy with our delicate emotions like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 16, 2016 Author Share Posted January 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Drax said: She was what mother called "new money". All of life is a game of luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,353 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Star Wars producers RECREATE Skellig Michael instead of shooting there again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 They did shoot on the Island itself in November Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,353 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Seems like that was the last time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Makes sense. They probably shot the footage they think they need there and will intersperse it with the footage shot on set. If it's done well no one will notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,353 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 They must have a huge budget if they're going to build an entire replica island to shoot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,353 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I assume they're only rebuilding the top, where Rey met Luke at the end of the movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 What I liked about it in TFA was that it looked real - because it was! Now it'll look like any dodgy prequel set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I'm confident that they will do an excellent work, and we will not even notice the recreation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Did Lindelof make the island disappear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,353 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I called it! Star Wars: Episode VIII Release Pushed to December 2017 At least now John Williams has plenty of time to score it. OF COURSE, there's a Spielberg conflict though; Ready Player One is currently scheduled to open on the same day. #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Shit. This doesn't bode well for Williams' scoring it. It seems likely that he'll have to choose between this and Real Player and I hope he chooses the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Wow. Isn't that when Avatar 2 is suppose to come out too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,353 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Currently yes, Avatar 2 is scheduled for December 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Is that one even shooting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 He'll do both. Real Player One will probably be recorded about the same time Episode VIII would have been as well had it been released in May. If anything, I think this spreads the projects a little bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, Lewya said: Wow. Isn't that when Avatar 2 is suppose to come out too? Yeah, how is Williams supposed to score Star Wars VIII, Ready Player One, and Ava2 all in the span of a few months? MikeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Makes up for not having a Middle-earth film in December anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 13 minutes ago, Jay said: Currently yes, Avatar 2 is scheduled for December 2017. How do they even have a story for this yet? Dances with Wolves never got its sequel first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,353 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Reportedly, the movie was pushed back from May to December because of script rewrites: Quote In a recent episode of the Meet the Movie Press, Jeff Sneider claims that the start of the film’s production has been pushed back to February to re-write elements of the script... in order to focus more on Rey, Finn, and Poe, the protagonists of The Force Awakens, at the expense of the new characters in this movie: Quote They want to get to know better the characters they already have. So the new rewrite is shrinking the new roles in order to spend more time with Rey, Poe and so on. While it might come as a surprise to hear that the protagonists of Episode VII weren’t planned to have as much screen time in the sequel, it’s not really—there have been rumors for a while that the film has been looking to cast a new female protagonist who will play a large role in Finn’s story, presumably to accommodate the fact that Rey will spend a portion of the film on her own training with Luke Skywalker. http://io9.gizmodo.com/constantines-arrow-appearance-was-probably-his-last-eve-1753936527 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,313 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Considering both SW8 and Ready Player One will be effects heavy, it may come down to how early Johnson can get Williams a first cut. After all, SW8 wraps filming before Spielberg even starts shooting RPO (July), so they have a comfortable headstart in editing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,008 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Jay said: Reportedly, the movie was pushed back from May to December because of script rewrites: http://io9.gizmodo.com/constantines-arrow-appearance-was-probably-his-last-eve-1753936527 Which is the same exact thing that happened with The Force Awakens? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 453 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 3 hours ago, Jay said: I called it! Star Wars: Episode VIII Release Pushed to December 2017 We both called it. And this means that Fox and Cameron won't have Avatar 2 ready by December 2017 either, otherwise they wouldn't have moved. WB and Spielberg can easily move Ready Player One up to October or November 2017 (a la Bridge of Spies and Lincoln). The Beard will likely have the film locked by the time Williams scores a rough cut of Episode VIII. Also, the studios can schedule around Williams, i.e. Giacchino when he was recording both Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol and John Carter at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,123 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Just stay healthy, Maestro. Eat well, get plenty of rest, and whatever you do, don't stop writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Fox may as well cancel Avatar 2 or at least hire a director who can get his shit together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,353 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 59 minutes ago, crumbs said: SW8 wraps filming before Spielberg even starts shooting RPO (July) That's not true anymore; The article I posted mentions that the start for filming of Episode 8 has been pushed back, meaning the end date would too. 29 minutes ago, Matt C said: this means that Fox and Cameron won't have Avatar 2 ready by December 2017 either, otherwise they wouldn't have moved. Hmmm, I hadn't thought of that, but I suppose you are right. They'd be competing for IMAX screens let alone ticking in general if they were both releasing in the same month. So I guess soon we'll get an announcement that Avatar 2 is no longer expected to be released in December 2017, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,008 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Avatar's post-production will probably take forever. So unless they managed to speed up the process it won't happen in 2017. And, of course, Cameron never takes the easy route, from the technology standpoint. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I really hope this isn't bad news for Williams to score Episode VIII with the Spielberg flick released around the same time. I guess the recording schedule is speculation at this point. It would be ideal if Williams could do both. I am a little bit surprised that Disney isn't going to take advantage of the 40th anniversary of Star Wars by having Episode VIII released on May 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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