The Last Jedi Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi (Rian Johnson 2017)

[John 2,032]

In my opinion, Kylo Ren looks so much more badass than how he looked in TFA. Even the simple inclusion of a full cape and the absence of his Vader-esque mask makes his character appear much more mature and cooler.

 

 

 

Perhaps we'll see a parallel between Ren and the youngling-slaughtering Anakin from ROTS when Kylo kills all the native Porgs when he and the Knights of Ren confront Luke and Rey on Ach-to?

[Luke Skywalker 1,794]

On 27/4/2017 at 6:12 PM, Stefancos said:

That would be awesome!

Luke Skywalker has bunnies of Doom!

That makes my avatar rather prophetising...

[Will 2,215]

Spoilers regarding an action sequence:

 

http://makingstarwars.net/2017/05/star-wars-the-last-jedis-space-horse-has-a-name-and-some-details/

 

Sounds frickin' awesome! 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Space horse!

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Star Wars is saved!

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That sounds like an exciting sequence for Williams to score! I wonder what Rose's Theme will sound like?

[Alex 2,835]

On 27/04/2017 at 5:12 PM, Stefancos said:

That would be awesome!

Luke Skywalker has bunnies of Doom! Like Radagast!

 

 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Exactly!

[John 2,032]

Space horses? Wait, don't we already have a...

 

 

...space camel?

 

Anyways, this story sounds really promising. Nothing we've seen in a previous Star Wars movie, that's for sure. Almost like James Bond in space. it sounds like we'll finally get a spy mission/espionage type of Star Wars movie, rather than a melodramatic father-daughter drama, which R1 eventually took its final form as. I'm sure TLJ will include some of that family stuff, but it sounds like this film will really be trying to branch out from the typical style and feel of the previous films in the series, which could be really interesting and fresh.

 

 

I'm also about 99.99% sure the romance in TLJ will be between Finn and Rose.

[leeallen01 2,136]

On 5/1/2017 at 5:06 PM, crumbs said:

 

Rey and Kylo's TLJ costumes revealed:

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Way too Lord of the Rings. Kylo looks like he's about to reclaim the throne of Gondor, and Rey looks like she's off for a night out with Tauriel...

[John 2,032]

7 minutes ago, leeallen01 said:

Way too Lord of the Rings.

 

 

What's so wrong with borrowing from that style? Star Wars is fantasy, after all.

[mstrox 6,651]

Personal aside, that I'd appreciate any revealing conversation about leaks (i.e. anything at all that hasn't been revealed through official channels) to be hidden behind spoiler tags, if possible.

 

[Will 2,215]

4 hours ago, JohnSolo said:

Anyways, this story sounds really promising. Nothing we've seen in a previous Star Wars movie, that's for sure. Almost like James Bond in space. it sounds like we'll finally get a spy mission/espionage type of Star Wars movie, rather than a melodramatic father-daughter drama, which R1 eventually took its final form as. I'm sure TLJ will include some of that family stuff, but it sounds like this film will really be trying to branch out from the typical style and feel of the previous films in the series, which could be really interesting and fresh.

 

Indeed, this film sounds awesome!

 

It sounds like it will have a ton of spiritual exploration of the Force, an incredible new location, and grin-worthy action sequences. What more could you ask for?

[BloodBoal 7,538]

A good score?

[Will 2,215]

3 hours ago, mstrox said:

Personal aside, that I'd appreciate any revealing conversation about leaks (i.e. anything at all that hasn't been revealed through official channels) to be hidden behind spoiler tags, if possible.

 

 

Indeed! Be cool, people. 

 

Just now, BloodBoal said:

A good score?

 

Oh, right! (In fact, I'm looking forward to that most of all)

[mrbellamy 6,278]

 

That's the senior writer for Vanity Fair. Assuming/hoping she wouldn't have responded at all if they weren't doing another one.

 

Their coverage on TFA had the first comments from Williams, I think, so hopefully there would be something on the score.

[Will 2,215]

Some (probably fake) Reddit spoilers:

 

https://www.reddit.com/user/dbvjb

 

They are pretty great though, and this guy seems to have taken care to line them up with all the MSW reports.

 

I kind of hope the plot is something like this, because it sounds like an emotional powerhouse. I was nearly grinning reading the third act.

 

Whether correct or not, nice to have something to chew on until December. 

[mrbellamy 6,278]

Couple tidbits from Rian Johnson

 

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Johnson already had a to-do list for the Force once it awakened, and he was involved early enough to know exactly where Abrams and co-screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan were taking things. But when he saw the planned ending — that silent scene of Rey returning an exiled Luke Skywalker’s first lightsaber to him — he had a concern about who was accompanying her on that journey.

 

His request will end up returning a long-beloved Star Wars figure to the center of the action: R2-D2.

 

"The big [favor] was, I asked if R2 could come with Rey, and if BB-8 could stay behind with the Resistance,” Johnson says. “Originally it was BB-8 who went with Rey, which makes sense for the story in a way. But I asked, ‘Can you do me this solid and switch the droids?’”

 

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For everyone worried that Luke Skywalker might not have much of a role in the saga going forward, Johnson tells EW that his is the central story.

 

“Figuring out where his head was at was the very first thing I had to do when writing the movie. I had to crack this. And it had to be something for me that first and foremost made sense. Why did Luke Skywalker go off to this island?” Johnson says. “That was the starting point, and that’s what the entire movie explores.”

 

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But … why did Luke run? Shouldn’t he have stayed to fight, to make this atrocity right? Does fleeing make him a coward?

 

“I didn’t want it to,” Johnson says. “There has to be a good reason that makes sense to him — and to some degree makes sense to us.”

 

[John 2,032]

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/stormpilot-sorry-star-wars-shippers-poe-finn-still-just-friends-last-jedi-175150945.html

[Luke Skywalker 1,794]

it makes a lot of sense for R2 to go there.

 

Having BB8 there would be like Leia not hugging chewie after han's loss. BB8 is Poe's droid anyway and they is a warm reunion of the two in the end of the film...

 

The chewie fiasco (that JJ apologized when they pointed it to him) and BB8's almost happening, makes me think that JJ and kasdan didnt really look into the details writting the story...they just wanted BB8 there because it was the new droid...

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Chewie fiasco. Lol.

[Quintus 5,399]

It was a scandal to rival the Profumo Affair! 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Ken Loach will be making a film about it.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

The effects of the Chewygate are still felt to this day.

[Quintus 5,399]

In the wake of the Chewbacca's very public fall from grace.  

[Nick1Ø66 4,711]

So I wonder what The Last Jedi crawl will say? In the past the crawl has been used to fill the audience in on what's been going on in the galaxy in the years/months since the last film, and set up the new one. Except in the case of Last Jedi, we know it picks up immediately after TFA.  So what's new under the suns to report? What else is there to say but recap what we already know?  

 

STAR WARS

EPISODE VIII

THE LAST JEDI

 

 The New Republic has fallen.

Hidden on a secret base,

The RESISTANCE, led by General Leia Organa,

plan their next move against the dreaded First Order.

 

Driven to finish the work of DARTH VADER,

Kylo Ren continues to destroy expensive equipment

With the same Light Sabre used to kill his father, Han Solo

 

Evading Ren and the First Order

Rey, Custodian of the Jedi Weapon of LUKE SKYWALKER

Has flown to the mysterious planet Ahch-To...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Disco Stu 15,495]

I want a scene at the beginning where Rey explains to Luke how she came to find him and then Luke has a line like "This all sounds suspiciously familiar........"

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"I'm looking for a great warrior, a Jedi Master named Yod-- Luke Skywalker."

[mrbellamy 6,278]

3 hours ago, Nick1066 said:

So I wonder what The Last Jedi crawl will say? In the past the crawl has been used to fill the audience in on what's been going on in the galaxy in the years/months since the last film, and set up the new one. Except in the case of Last Jedi, we know it picks up immediately after TFA.  So what's new under the sun to report? What else is there to say but recap what we already know?  

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Rian Johnson actually did get asked this last month and gave sort of a blunt answer about it lol

 

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"There's still some stuff to set up because even if it picks up right where the last one left off, there's still a lot of unanswered questions about what the state of everything is. We were able to fill three paragraphs."

 

 

 

I mean, TFA didn't really go into what the destruction of the New Republic would have done to the state of the galaxy, so I guess that's what they'll recap. Johnson did hint at the Celebration panel that that's going to be a big part of the story.

[Pieter Boelen 740]

Good!

Because, really, that's the one thing that TFA didn't clarify much on at all.

 

I still wonder if The New Republic is really completely destroyed and no longer a factor at all.

Hopefully not, because that would render RotJ quite pointless and make Star killer base really "the ultimate reset button of evil" and nothing else.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Wasn't that the point?

[Bilbo 3,709]

It's a film by JJ Abrams. You were expecting anything else were you? His whole MO was to bring the galaxy right back to where it was at the start of Empire. 

 

And he did it!

[Nick1Ø66 4,711]

I think it was a mistake to end TFA as they did....which was clearly set up to shoehorn Luke into the last scene. As cool as that shot is, I think it creates limitations in storytelling that I'd guess created issue in written the script for the next one. I like the idea that these films as set apart by months and years, and that the characters are having adventures we don't see. It feeds the imagination, and is a way to easily set up new, different stories and explain changes that have occurred in the intervening time. I also think the passage of time just makes the story feel more epic.

 

The should have simply ended it with Rey blasting off to look for Luke accompanied to the swell of JW's music, ala Empire.  Then the next time we see Rey and the other characters they've grown a bit and don't mostly act like millennials in a video game.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

That would have been lame!

 

Also, having no Luke in the film at all would have pissed people off.

[Nick1Ø66 4,711]

They could have just thrown in a Lando cameo and everyone would have forgotten about Luke.

 

What's your problem with Lando Calrissian?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Lando? Who cares about Lando?

 

Great supporting character in TESB, but I never considered him part of the core of Star Wars.

 

This new trilogy needs Lando as much as it needed a scene of Leia and Chewie together crying over Han's death.

[Nick1Ø66 4,711]

From the JWfan.net alternative universe archives, circa 1980...

 

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17 years ago, Nick1066 said:

I think it was a mistake to end The Empire Strikes Back the way they did, having Leia find Han in carbonite, saying "someone who loves you" and the reveal with Jabba laughing right before the credits roll.  

 

They should have ended it with Lando and Chewie flying off to find Han while Luke & Leia looked on, to the swell of JW's music.

 

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17 years ago, Stefanos said:

That would have been lame!

 

Also, not letting the audience know Han was still alive would have pissed people off.

 

 

2 hours ago, Stefancos said:

Lando? Who cares about Lando?

 

Great supporting character in TESB, but I never considered him part of the core of Star Wars.

 

This new trilogy needs Lando as much as it needed a scene of Leia and Chewie together crying over Han's death.

 

Racist!

 

 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Wut?

[Nick1Ø66 4,711]

C'mon man. Don't denigrate Lando. He got to fly the Millennium Falcon!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Landa has no arc in ROTJ, no development etc. he's there and it's fine, but....

 

TESB Lando is cool.

[Nick1Ø66 4,711]

Correct. ROTJ didn't do anything with Lando, and he wasted.

 

This is just overshadowed by the fact that the film ruined (i.e. emasculated) Han Solo's character.  Even as a kid I cringed at lines like "Hey, it's me", and "Is that who you could tell".

[Disco Stu 15,495]

I agree with Stefan.  I never particularly cared one or another about Lando as a kid or now.  He was a good part of ESB but didn't need to be in ROTJ at all.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[John 2,032]

You mean the Kenyan-speaking monkey frog?

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[Bespin 8,480]

Swahili!
How I love you, how I love!
My dear ol' Swahili!
 

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Hoo boy

[Bespin 8,480]

Ok, enough coffee this morning I think.