publicist 4,643 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Spoiler 23 hours ago, BloodBoal said: Not by much... By enough. The 3 showdowns for every character approach was a sure drawback but Mark Hamill gave this one the much needed gravitas TFA lacked completely. Lots of of light and shadow in this one. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Spoiler Sure, but then you have two subplots you honestly don't give a fuck about, thus making the overly long running time feel unjustified, an uneven tone, a script that keeps changing directions because it feels like the writers are unsure where exactly they want to go... Maybe its best aspects are better than the best aspects of TFA, but its worst aspects are also worse than those of TFA, I'd say. I do agree that Hamill really elevates the whole film, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Spoiler There is a lot of silly fluff in it but honestly, any director who brings off two or three good character moments like the Luke/Rey scenes in these movies and explores the interesting brother/sister dynamic between Rey and Kylo plus the interesting development that an evil nazi empire is now ruled by an angry emo teen is enough to forgive the other 70 minutes of useless hollering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Can you guys continue discussion of the actual movie over to the spoiler thread? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Seeing this in less than two hours!! I haven't heard a note of the score. So excited. Not to mention the film itself. I've had butterflies in my stomach practically all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Will said: I've had butterflies in my stomach practically all day. Maybe it's just gas? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I'm in the theater now, show's about to start. My seat is so close to the screen I can barely see anything clearly. D'oh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 8 hours ago, Jay said: Can you guys continue discussion of the actual movie over to the spoiler thread? Thanks! I haven't seen the film yet and just caught up with the thread and BB and Pub just spoiled everything! toothless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I didn't say anything spoilery. Pub, on the other hand... Ban him, I say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Well you must have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Thanks for the huge spoilers around here… It's the second time I see a spoiler… I just hope the movie won't be boring now. Next time I'll just avoid every thread I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 @Jay should edit pub's post. Or maybe @publicist should do it. But I don't expect him to! toothless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 See! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I didn't even read Pub's post before, and now I see what he did. Edited! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Not sure why you put my post in-between spoiler tags, but OK... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Be lucky LeBlanc didnt ban you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 If he bans me, I shall become more powerful than he can possibly imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Just being extra safe for the spoiler-averse, BB. You did nothing wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 20 hours ago, BloodBoal said: @Jay should edit pub's post. Or maybe @publicist should do it. But I don't expect him to! Sorry. Seemed like the right thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 In all honesty, it's easy to get lost. I can't remember which conversation happened where. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Jay always turns GD into a micromanaged mess during these time limited events. There's no way on fuckin earth I'm keeping tabs on 4 or 5 different threads essentially all discussing the same thing and sometimes spread over multiple threads, so I generally just post in the first thread I see. His thread titles alone are like little puzzles which bore me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 There are way too many Last Jedi threads in GD and in the John Williams forum. Keep one and slap a spoiler notice on it and people can wait until they see the film before entering a thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Yeah, four threads (two for the movie, two for the score: spoiler-free and spoiler-allowed) should be more than enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Remember they made a separate forum for KotCS? Those were the days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2017/12/18/16792184/star-wars-the-last-jedi-rotten-tomatoes-review-bomb Movie fandom in 2017. Do you think it'll get worse before it gets better? I wonder if in 40 years the internet will cringe at its younger behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 It gets better. Check the link in croc's post: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 The divide between critics and audiences is simple, one is a knowledgeable and accredited collection of writers and scholars whose job it is to review and discuss film, the other is a large hoard of moaning, popcorn-guzzling, entitled whiners who know next to nothing about the art of filmmaking. Bilbo and leeallen01 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 True, but film critics also have complaints about this film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Arpy said: The divide between critics and audiences is simple, one is a knowledgeable and accredited collection of writers and scholars whose job it is to review and discuss film, the other is a large hoard of moaning, popcorn-guzzling, entitled whiners who know next to nothing about the art of filmmaking. This is the same mob dancing on the grave of 20th Century Fox because their stupid funny book characters can now exist in the same cinematic universe as the Avengers. I even saw one of them say "Disney is finally taking back what is rightfully theirs". I hate these people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Chen G. said: True, but film critics also have complaints about this film. Yet the critic consensus seems to indicate a positive response. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Consensus only means most of them liked it. Nothing more. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Hey, I liked it, too. Didn't LOVE it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 55 minutes ago, Arpy said: Yet the critic consensus seems to indicate a positive response. Maybe the majority of critics have bad taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Prepare for the F&F the Disney way, Drax! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Actually that I wouldn't mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 RT: 98% The F&F has never been that cute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 hours ago, crocodile said: Consensus only means most of them liked it. Nothing more. Karol Exactly. So it follows that the film was positively received by a majority of critics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Why are there still a lot of morons out there who think RT reviews and rates films? We never knew the full extent of how many illiterates there were out there until the internet reached saturation point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, Arpy said: Exactly. So it follows that the film was positively received by a majority of critics... And? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Karol was questioning my original post which stated exactly what he had replied with. Chen said the critics have also had negative things to say, to which I responded the consensus among the critics is positive, to which Karol responded with his clarification of what consensus was, which was a moot point to make considering it was never in question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 OK. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Yes, it's all rather conceited nonsense, but I believed it best be clarified for my sake... ...and sanity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,468 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Just saw the movie yesterday. I liked it very much, although I need to see it one more time to properly grasp all the going-ons, because there were a LOT of them here. It didn't have the "charm" and wit of TFA (which I found superior), but this was less an ode to the originals and more its own thing. I've listened to the score a few times already (before I saw the movie), and although I'll probably include it in my runner-ups, I don't see quite how I can fit it in my top 10 of the year. Both movie and score hover somewhere between my 10 and 20, which is quite good considering the amount of scores I hear and films I see every year. Not 'smashing' top spot material, but somewhere in the category right after. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt S. 492 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Just remembered this post from October..... interesting how in The Last Jedi, Spoiler Snoke does indeed Force-choke General Hux from across the galaxy (just after the Resistance cruisers escaped from D'Qar)! On 10/13/2017 at 5:46 PM, Matt S. said: On 10/13/2017 at 5:33 PM, The Doctor said: One of the dumbest show of Force ability in Star Wars is Darth Vader choking that guy from across the galaxy in Empire. Yeah, the one everyone claims is perfect. If Vader is that powerful, why doesn't he just choke everyone from other spaceships and end this shit? Which guy across the galaxy? If you're talking about Admiral Ozzel, the guy he choked over the video screen, they were both on the same ship..... Ozzel was on the bridge and Vader was in his chambers. Am I forgetting somebody else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 You can type that shit but you sure as hell can't say it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 On 12/21/2017 at 8:42 AM, Matt S. said: Just remembered this post from October..... interesting how in The Last Jedi, Hide contents Snoke does indeed Force-choke General Hux from across the galaxy (just after the Resistance cruisers escaped from D'Qar)! You need to know the precise X, Y, and Z coordinates of your victims in spacers to be able to Force choke them accurately. Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 To chart a course, you need... a point of origin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 3 hours ago, Denise Bryson said: To chart a course, you need... a point of origin. That sounds like an Enterprise tagline! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 15 hours ago, Denise Bryson said: To chart a course, you need... a point of origin. The seventh symbol? Weesa goin home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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