Brundlefly 2,385 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 @Jay, wouldn't it meanwhile be appropriate to list the Lucasfilm titles among the Disney titles? In addition to that, if the Star Wars OT is not striked through, neither does Hook deserve to be. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,343 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Yes, Hook doesn't count for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 On 11/28/2018 at 9:40 AM, Brundlefly said: @Jay, wouldn't it meanwhile be appropriate to list the Lucasfilm titles among the Disney titles? I decided you're right, and I just moved the Star Wars titles there. It's not clear if the Indy films still involve Paramount or not, so I put them under Disney with a note that Paramount might still be a factor. Quote In addition to that, if the Star Wars OT is not striked through, neither does Hook deserve to be. On 11/28/2018 at 12:37 PM, bollemanneke said: Yes, Hook doesn't count for me. OK, I un-crossed-out Hook. Incidentally, I was surprised to see there are still FIFTY pre-WOTW titles for the labels to (hopefully) work on! On 7/2/2014 at 10:38 AM, Jay said: Allied Artists 1960 I Passed For White Disney 1977 Star Wars(1997 RCA release is not complete) 1980 The Empire Strikes Back(1997 RCA release is not complete and has sound quality issues) 1981 Raiders of the Lost Ark [Paramount still involved?] (2008 Concord release is not complete and has pitch issues) 1983 Return of the Jedi (1997 RCA release is not complete and has sound quality issues) 1984 Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom [Paramount still involved?] (2008 Concord release is not complete and has pitch issues) 1989 Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade [Paramount still involved?] (2008 Concord release is not complete) 1999 The Phantom Menace (2000 Ultimate Edition is not complete and has many other problems) 1995 Nixon 2002 Attack of the Clones 2005 Revenge of the SithDreamworks 1997 Amistad 2002 Minority Report [Fox (US Only)] 2002 Catch Me If You Can 2004 The Terminal 2005 War of the Worlds [Paramount (US Only)]Fox 1967 Valley of the Dolls 1973 The Paper Chase (FSM 1998 released can be improved upon) 1974 Conrack (FSM 1998 released can be improved upon) 1974 The Towering Inferno (FSM 2001 release is long out of print and can be improved upon) 1982 Monsignor (Intrada 2007 release is not expanded) 1986 SpaceCamp (Intrada 2010 release - and 2014 re-issue - are not expanded)MGM (United Artists) 1971 Fiddler On The RoofParamount 1969 The Reivers 1995 Sabrina 1999 Angela's AshesSony (Columbia / Tri-Star) 1958 Daddy-O [imperial Productions / American International Pictures] 1960 Because They're Young 1963 Gidget Goes To Rome 1991 Hook (La-La Land 2012 release is not complete) 1997 Seven Years In Tibet 1998 Stepmom 2000 The PatriotUniversal 1961 The Secret Ways 1965 The Killers 1966 The Rare Breed 1966 The Plainsman 1970 Storia di una donna (Story of a Woman) 1972 The Screaming Woman 1974 The Sugarland Express 1974 Earthquake 1975 The Eiger Sanction 1984 The River 1989 Born On The Fourth Of July 1989 Always 1992 Far And AwayWarner Brothers 1987 The Witches Of Eastwick (Perseverance 2012 release is not expanded) 1988 The Accidental Tourist (FSM 2008 release is not expanded) 1990 Presumed Innocent ("Probably" Controlled by Varese in perpetuity) 1991 JFK 1996 Sleepers bollemanneke and Brundlefly 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 22 hours ago, Jay said: Incidentally, I was surprised to see there are still FIFTY pre-WOTW titles for the labels to (hopefully) work on! At first glance that does seem like there's a long way to go (and there is!), however, about 1/3 of the 50 (15) are under the Mouse's control unfortunately. So 35 spread out with the remaining studios isn't too daunting, especially when you consider 31 (counting Hook) have been expanded since 2010! I would expect the amount of expansions to slow down slightly due to the number of post 2005 scores with the increased union fees, but I'd like to be proven wrong! EDIT: Didn't realize the 50 was pre WOTW, so that would mean 40 not under the Mouse's thumb bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I'm hoping for several Dreamworks releases in 2019, plenty of missing material in these scores! Dreamworks1997 Amistad2002 Minority Report [Fox (US Only)]2002 Catch Me If You Can2004 The Terminal2005 War of the Worlds [Paramount (US Only)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,343 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 My resolution for the new year will be to be very, very relaxed about upcoming expansions. Yes, I would love Hook and Far and Away, or the Terminal or Catch Me If You Can, but... God, we've been spoiled. Dr. Rick and Jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 January 5th: Disney announces the Indy scores coming out one by one in the full Matessino treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Wan 65 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Some anniversaries this year: 50th anniversary: The Reivers (1969) 45th anniversary: Conrack (1974) The Towering Inferno (1974) The Sugarland Express (1974) Earthquake (1974) 35th anniversary: The River (1984) Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984) 30th anniversary: Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989) Born on the Fourth of July (1989) Always (1989) 20th anniversary: Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace (1999) Angela's Ashes (1999) 15th anniversary: The Terminal (2004) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Bummer that The Witches of Eastwick was botched by Perseverance. As of August 15, 2018, they’ve pressed 2,000 copies of their 3,000 limit. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 That OST is too long anyway. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 Crossed off Monsignor in the main post! bollemanneke and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Another one bites the dust! Hopefully Intrada will re-release SpaceCamp as well this year in expanded form. Now that the '70s have been well represented as of late with expanded releases the '80s need to feel the love as well! Monsignor was a good start and another quality release by Intrada and Matessino. Quote An update to the list: Joel McNeely, John Barry, Jerry Goldsmith, Basil Poledouris (maybe...no promises yet), Bill Conti, John Williams, James Horner, Hugo Friedhofer, Bruce Broughton, Craig Safan, Chris Young, Lalo Schifrin, Sylvester Levay, Richard Band, Laurence Rosenthal, Jerry Fielding, Bear McCreary, Randy Edelman, possibly Frank DeVol and more! And sometimes more than one by these composers! This includes some world premieres, reissues, expansions...a little of everything. http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=8108&start=45 Yavar Moradi and Jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 Crossed Minority Report off the list Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Only 3 more pre-2005 Dreamworks films to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 I probably have the dissenting opinion but I'd be interested in The Terminal most out of the three. bollemanneke and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,436 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 How many minutes of unreleased music does The Terminal have? Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 Maybe 20 minutes or so? There's never been a session leak, but there has been a sheet music leak, though I've never seen anyone go through and make mockups of what we don't have https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11z6EfZepoLn-vuSoDnE17u0HZjMiChi_Tokh4c05_Zw/edit?usp=sharing Yavar Moradi and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I thought 2005 was the last year that AFM recordings *could* be licensed at an affordable rate. Are you saying that the cutoff is actually 2004, and 2005 things are off limits? Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,343 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I'd be very interested in The Terminal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 The AFM licensing change happened during the summer of 2005. War of the Worlds finished just before the change, making Munich and Geisha the first ones after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Oh SHIT so a complete Geisha is off the table then? That's my favorite of the three! (War of the Worlds complete would still be cool.) Yavar crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,436 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Bummer, I would love an C&C for both scores. War of the Worlds' leaked session are a mess, and Geisha never leaked at all. Yavar Moradi and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Wow it a amazing how many titles are crossed by now... By the way fiddler on the roof should have 'the latest 2000s edition is not complete'. As it is, it seems it only had an ost release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share Posted November 30, 2019 Crossed off The Towering Inferno and Earthquake! And updated Poseidon from 2010 to 2019 There ain't too much left at Fox or Universal... bollemanneke and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen II 1,235 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Jay said: There ain't too much left at Fox or Universal... The Eiger Sanction next, pretty please! 🇨🇭⛰🤫 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 On 10/4/2019 at 12:01 AM, Luke Skywalker said: By the way fiddler on the roof should have 'the latest 2000s edition is not complete'. As it is, it seems it only had an ost release. The 2001 30th anniversary edition is expanded with five tracks - one additional song and for score tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Yeah i meant that in the list it is not mentioned Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 On 10/3/2019 at 6:01 PM, Luke Skywalker said: Wow it a amazing how many titles are crossed by now... By the way fiddler on the roof should have 'the latest 2000s edition is not complete'. As it is, it seems it only had an ost release. 21 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: The 2001 30th anniversary edition is expanded with five tracks - one additional song and for score tracks. 9 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said: Yeah i meant that in the list it is not mentioned The 1971 OST LP for Fiddler (on United Artists records) had 14 tracks. The concurrent tape and 8 track release (on Liberty Records) had 3 extra tracks - Entracte, The Pogrom, and Wedding Procession, for a total of 17 tracks. The 1980s CD release on EMI only had the 14 OST LP tracks. Then the 30th Anniversary CD release in 2001 had 19 tracks, of which it claimed 5 tracks were previously unreleased. However, only 2 were brand new; The Rejection Scene, and Any Day Now. Entracte, Wedding Procession, and First Act Finale (The Pogrom) had all been on that 1971 cassette/8track. Regardless, yea, I should mention in the main post that that 2001 still isn't complete. Thanks! Jurassic Shark and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Has there been words from any of the labels that this one's on their radar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 Not that I've ever seen. Maybe something will happen for its 50th anniversary in 2021? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 That's what I'm hoping for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 The latest edition of Maurizio Caschetto's great Legacy of John Williams podcast features a lengthy interview that is primarily about the new expanded editions of Monsignor, Minority Report, Poseidon Adventure, Towering Inferno, and Earthquake. However, during various points in the podcast, many other films get mentioned. Specifically there's a lot of talk about Universal. Here's the podcast: https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2019/12/11/mike-matessino-podcast-disaster-soundtrack-collection/ And here's what's left at Universal that hasn't been worked on by our beloved specialty labels: On 7/2/2014 at 10:38 AM, Jay said: Universal 1961 The Secret Ways 1965 The Killers 1966 The Rare Breed 1966 The Plainsman 1970 Storia di una donna (Story of a Woman) 1972 The Screaming Woman 1974 The Sugarland Express 1975 The Eiger Sanction 1984 The River 1989 Born On The Fourth Of July 1989 Always 1992 Far And Away In the episode, he specifically mentions that elements exist to release The Rare Breed, Story of a Woman, and Sugarland Express, but Williams said "no" to all three. However, Mike made it clear that he does not think that it was a "permanent no". He also says at one point, and forgive me for not having a direct quote, but something along the lines of several Universal titles being in the works. Let the guessing begin! Oh, and he also talked a lot about FOX, and how him and all the labels rushed to get everything they wanted from there before Disney finished acquiring them, which is what lead to Poseidon and Towering coming out now. He did say that there are more Fox titles coming out next year that were approved before the merger, but the impression I got from when he said that was that he was referring to works by other composers, not Williams. rough cut and Amer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 24 minutes ago, Jay said: In the episode, he specifically mentions that elements exist to release The Secret Ways, The Rare Breed, and Sugarland Express, but Williams said "no" to all three. However, Mike made it clear that he does not think that it was a "permanent no". Actually the three titles (which we already knew about from board postings) that have been transferred but were (hopefully temporarily) nixed for release by Williams were The Rare Breed, Sugarland Express, and Story of a Woman. The Secret Ways does get brought up in the podcast but Mike says he's not even sure if elements survive for it since it is such an early work (while confirming that they do for those other three later Universal scores). That said, we know that Jerry Goldsmith's Universal scores survived from only a year later in 1962 (Lonely Are the Brave and Freud), so I'm not sure why Mike thinks a 1961 score would be less likely to survive. 28 minutes ago, Jay said: Oh, and he also talked a lot about FOX, and how him and all the labels rushed to get everything they wanted from there before Disney finished acquiring them, which is what lead to Poseidon and Towering coming out now. He did say that there are more Fox titles coming out next year that were approved before the merger, but the impression I got from when he said that was that he was referring to works by other composers, not Williams. I got that impression too, though there are certainly multiple other Fox titles (including The Paper Chase and Conrack which were included by FSM when they put out the original Poseidon Adventure release) which could use definitive/improved new editions. It's a fantastic podcast and I only wish it had been longer! Yavar Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,343 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Bring on Far and Away! Dr. Rick and Amer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 Fixed my mistake Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Yavar Moradi said: Actually the three titles (which we already knew about from board postings) that have been transferred but were (hopefully temporarily) nixed for release by Williams were The Rare Breed, Sugarland Express, and Story of a Woman. cc @Thor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 @Jay Can you add another section at the end of your main post with all the Sony Music entries so we can see what has and has not been expanded? Thanks! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,352 Posted December 13, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 Here you go On 2/7/2019 at 10:06 AM, Jay said: Here's a list of films scored by John Williams, whose original OST album was released on a label currently owned by Sony Music (RCA Records, Arista Records, CBS Records, Epic Records, etc) 1969 - The Reivers 1977 - Close Encounters of the Third Kind 1978 - The Fury (LP Re-recording tracks only, all film tracks owned by Fox) 1979 - 1941 1986 - SpaceCamp 1990 - Home Alone 1991 - Hook 1997 - Rosewood 1997 - Seven Years In Tibet 1998 - Stepmom 1999 - Angela's Ashes 1999 - The Phantom Menace (rights have reverted to Disney) 2002 - Attack of the Clones (rights have reverted to Disney) 2005 - Memoirs of a Geisha 2005 - Revenge of the Sith (rights have reverted to Disney) 2011 - The Adventures of Tintin 2011 - War Horse 2012 - Lincoln 2013 - The Book Thief 2017 - The Post Here's the list again, except I've crossed out all that have already been expanded and bolded those that haven't, and removed the SW prequels since Sony Music has nothing to do with them any more. In brackets, I put the film studio that owns all the music that wasn't on the OST. 1969 The Reivers [Paramount] 1977 Close Encounters of the Third Kind (La-La Land 2017) [Sony] 1978 The Fury (La-La Land 2013) [Fox] 1979 1941 (La-La Land 2011) [Universal] 1986 SpaceCamp [Fox] 1990 Home Alone (La-La Land 2015) 1991 Hook [Sony] 1997 Rosewood (La-La Land 2013) [Warner Brothers] 1997 Seven Years In Tibet [Sony]1998 Stepmom [Sony] 1999 Angela's Ashes [Paramount] 2005 Memoirs Of A Geisha [Sony (International) / Disney (UK)] 2011 The Adventures of Tintin [Paramount] 2011 War Horse [Disney] 2012 Lincoln [Disney (US) / Fox (International)] 2013 The Book Thief [Fox] 2017 The Post [Fox] Amer, Bayesian, Yavar Moradi and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 So if we presume (rather, hope) that Hook is one of the two Sony titles that made it under the wire and remain releasable by LLL, which other title would we prefer to see expanded by LLL? My vote would be Seven Years or maybe Memoirs. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 Why do you assume either one of them was Williams, let alone both? Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Jay said: Why do you assume either one of them was Williams, let alone both? Oh right, it wasn't necessarily two JW scores that made it through. Rats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,102 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1975 The Eiger Sanction1984 The River1989 Born On The Fourth Of July1989 Always1992 Far And Away I suppose we may see these titles steadily released over the next 2 years. and JFK. I suppose after The Towering inferno this may be next in the line because both these 2 titles were slated for a possible release a few years ago via LLL (as indicated by MV on FSM forum). But JFK kept getting postponed probably because the LLL team had other big titles in progress (CE3K, Superman, Harry Potter, Jurassic Park) and also because of the multiple studio licenses involved. So hoping for JFK now that The Towering Inferno is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,102 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Anyone noticed that THE RARE BREED is coming out on blu ray in a few months. Here is hoping that this reissue may help change Williams mind. https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Rare-Breed-Blu-ray/257997/# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Yeah, everything's better than that old Prague/Silva rerecording! Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,826 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Amer said: Anyone noticed that THE RARE BREED is coming out on blu ray in a few months. Here is hoping that this reissue may help change Williams mind. https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Rare-Breed-Blu-ray/257997/# It's been out in Europe since 2017. But yeah, this is the US premiere. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,310 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 6 hours ago, Amer said: Anyone noticed that THE RARE BREED is coming out on blu ray in a few months. Here is hoping that this reissue may help change Williams mind. https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Rare-Breed-Blu-ray/257997/# What are the chances of Mike getting an isolated score on there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 None Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,826 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, crumbs said: What are the chances of Mike getting an isolated score on there? I am not aware of any Kino bluray having an isolated score track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Wan 65 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 On 7/2/2014 at 4:38 PM, Jay said: If I missed any films, let me know! Jay, you have missed the following films: Theatrical films: 1968 Sergeant Ryker [Universal] 1969 Daddy's Gone A-Hunting [Warner Bros.] TV films: 1968 Heidi [Omnibus-Productions / NBC] (Quartet 2013) 1971 Jane Eyre [Omnibus Productions / NBC] (La-La Land 2012 release is not complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Wan 65 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 And if the information on Wikipedia is correct, Daddy-O is actually MGM film, not Sony. Originally it was produced by American International Pictures, which is owned by MGM now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daddy-O https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_International_Pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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