A24 4,330 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 6 minutes ago, publicist said: You watch so much shite, i don't see your point in avoiding this. Maybe that's because I already know what to expect and I don't really want it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 And you don't think it's possible you are surprised? Step out of your comfort zone once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,330 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 10 minutes ago, Stefancos said: I remember No Country For Old Men was a truly nailbiting thriller that kind of petered out. Yep. Suddenly people start to stare and philosophise. I watched it twice to see if I could love the last part too but it was to no avail. I know lots of people think it's the most interesting part of the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 They got told it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I just think they didn't quite figure out how to end it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,330 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 They probably wanted to avoid the cliché final showdown. The used the same method for Fargo S2. (But S1 is really good and S2 was good until the finale ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 How actively were the Coen's involved with Fargo (the TV show)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Doubt they were involved at all, aside from an executive producer credit. But Hawley and team absolutely nailed the Coens' tone, style and language. It oozes Coens, better than they do these days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,330 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I agree! It's simply amazing how they nailed that vintage Coen tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 13 minutes ago, Stefancos said: I just think they didn't quite figure out how to end it. Well, they tore up the rule book at the time didn't they when the main protagonist was suddenly taken out of the equation and with plenty of time still left in the storyline. Standard viewers found it jarring and were left wondering how to feel about it. They didn't appreciate that. Some though thought it was pretty daring and honest. It actually delivered on the premise for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Well sure. But the problem is always. When you kill your lead character, then what are you gonna do? Hitchcock managed fine with Psycho, but i'm not sure the Coen's did as well. Still a very good film though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 The terrific momentum certainly does die down there, it's true. Which is were the old men monologues become the focus. Wasn't that the point though? I suppose you either accept it you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I guess. Only saw the film once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Twice. In a fortnight, because I showed it to mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 You guys realize that the film is almost exactly the same as the book, beat for beat? No Country For Old Men is their best film, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Of course it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,330 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Really? Movies that copy the book beat for beat usually aren't very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Indeed. You generally can't do a one one one translation from one medium to another. Hmmm..so maybe it's the book's fault, not the Coen's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Shutter Island is another one that is a very faithful adaptation. The Road to a lesser degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 The Hobbit, too, is a faithful word for word adaptation of the book. Hence why some say it's somewhat brisk compared to the Lord of the Rings movie trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Not really. They used almost everything from the book yes, but a lot of it was drawn out, repositioned or changed in some way. Plus those movies have a lot of stuff invented by the writers. It is in NO way a faithful adaptation of the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 My friend, have you welcomed sarcasm into your life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Me? I practically invented it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Sarcasm is your father, Irony your mother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 29 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Not really. They used almost everything from the book yes, but a lot of it was drawn out, repositioned or changed in some way. Plus those movies have a lot of stuff invented by the writers. It is in NO way a faithful adaptation of the book. Heh heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Yes....YES! 5 minutes ago, Quintus said: Heh heh Dont turn this around! You are the one who believed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 15 hours ago, publicist said: I was only surprised how good the notices for films like 'A Serious Man' or this Oscar-Isaac movie were - films that i really didn't like in the least. 15 hours ago, Quintus said: A Serious Man was disappointing shite, I remember it well. You're both ill, that movie was brilliant. Sharkissimo and Koray Savas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 At the time I remember having a two page argument with Alexcremers about it and how he was telling me it was likely myself at fault for simply not "getting it" (his old favorite) and that it probably had nothing to do with the Coens or the movie itself being the problem since it'd reviewed strongly (probably amongst Jewish critics) and he thought it looked very good so it surely was (he hadn't seen it). It was a really pointless hypothetical exercise actually, it's the way it used to be and I don't miss that crap. Anyway, he eventually made a point of seeing it and he didn't enjoy the movie. It's was that brand of grease though which used to make the cogs of JWFan and GD go around. Thankfully we have Star Wars and Indiana Jones to keep things ticking over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Cremers had a 2 page argument about a film he hadn't seen? Only on JWFAN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 What? That's standard practice. I just tried to dig it up, but of course the absolutely wank search engine here reckons there's no such movie in existence. It's almost as if it laughs at you when you attempt to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 The search engine doesn't work. It never has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 2 hours ago, nightscape94 said: You're both ill, that movie was brilliant. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,330 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 8 hours ago, BloodBoal said: I wonder if it's a film Jews or at least people who know a lot about the Jewish culture get to enjoy more than others. It seems like there are a lot of "in-jokes" (so to speak), and if you don't get them, well, there's not much to latch onto. That could be it. I couldn't relate to anything. A movie about Jewish in-jokes ... say, how brilliant! 6 hours ago, Stefancos said: The search engine doesn't work. It never has. I finally works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 I don't understand the "it's because it's Jewish" complaint; A Serious Man just isn't a very funny film. Jewish in-jokes were never an issue for me. Woody Allen has demonstrated it aptly in many movies and Curb Your Enthusiasm may as well be called The Jewish Curse: The Series. It's frequently hilarious, and Jewish. Nah, it's no excuse. A Serious Man was just boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 It appears to be a real divisive film. I've heard a lot of people call it dull and tedious, yet a few others told me that i MUST watch it. That it is special in a way that it spoke to them profoundly. None of them Jewish iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 I doubt it'd have much to say to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 That would be a nice change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 The other one was much worse, though. It didn't even have the vaguely comical nebbish guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice (spoiler free review) Nowhere near as bad as the critics have been leveling it. The film does address the criticism leveled at Man of Steel in a clever way, by having Batman angry at the chaos and destruction caused in Metropolis to Wayne Tower and the loss of employees and friends. Ben Affleck is a terrific Batman, hell, the guy is even scarier than Bale's at times. Henry Cavill gives in another reliable performance as Superman, and Gal Gadot makes for an alluring and beautiful Wonder Woman (in the several scenes she had in the film). Jesse Eisenberg is both great and irritating as Lex Luthor, and the bouncy Sherlock-esque piano theme is bombastic and irritating. Amy Adams and Diane Lane don't have much to do except spout dialogue and be captured by the bad guys. The production values are impeccable and I was really enjoying the first hour of the film. In the last half, the amount of action and CGI puts Avengers: Age of Ultron to shame (not a good thing); if anything, Snyder and Chris Terrio should've held back instead of trying to do several things at once. The Justice League foreshadowing is a bit clumsy, especially with the Flash. On the other hand I admire the scope Snyder is aiming for, even if he doesn't succeed all the time. Zimmer and Junkie XL's score plays far better in the film. With the improved sound quality, Junkie XL's Batman theme is actually not that bad -- a tad more memorable than Zimmer's, but still not impressed with the electric cello motif for Wonder Woman. (And as I mentioned earlier, Lex's theme is annoyingly bombastic.) Zimmer pulls off some beautiful music near the end, which is a nice touch. Just wish they had done more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 That beautiful music near the end... gah, Zimmer didn't pull that off! Look at me, of all people, against all odds, wishing credit on a Zimmer score would be given where it's due! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 31 minutes ago, Matt C said: and Gal Gadot makes for an alluring and beautiful Wonder Woman (in the several scenes she had in the film). As opposed to the scenes she wasn't in the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 42 minutes ago, Drax said: As opposed to the scenes she wasn't in the film? Well, I enjoyed most of the scenes without her, but she was the cherry on top. She caught my eye the first scene in BvS, and she conveys Diana / Wonder Woman well just through her expressions and body language. I guess it's better wanting more of Wonder Woman rather than too much... she's got a solo film for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 I guess you kinda did need to see Man of Steel to understand exactly wtf was happening, but I have even less desire to do so now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,351 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 High-Rise - if you've ever thought that apartment blocks are microcosms of societal structure ready to tip over into utter anarchy if a few things started to go wrong, Ben Wheatley's adaptation of JG Ballard's novel will confirm that thought. A hypnotically bonkers flick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 18 hours ago, E.T. and Elliot said: I guess you kinda did need to see Man of Steel to understand exactly wtf was happening, but I have even less desire to do so now. Not really. You don't have to see Man of Steel to get the full story. If you want to see the movie, go ahead! The movie is faring much better with audiences than the critics, so you might enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,351 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 10 Cloverfield Lane - I enjoyed this a helluva lot. A sort-of sequel that's 2 parts claustrophobic suspense thriller and 1 part sci-fi, with excellent performances by John Goodman and Mary Elizabeth Winstead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice Well, that was pleasantly surprising. Hardly perfect and pretty rough in places, but a much-needed improvement over its predecessor. I don't understand how this fared so badly with the critics... Matt C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,330 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Heck, maybe I'll go and see it in theatres anyway. Wait, I can't see it in theatres, I hate their new projection system. Damnit! They really need to offer these new movies simultaneously for home streaming and for the same price as a ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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