Jay 37,323 Posted August 24, 2021 Author Share Posted August 24, 2021 Yea I thought the hoodie was really strange (no pun intended) looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Jay said: Could easily be Mephisto or some other new villain, masquerading as Strange (and somehow fooling Wong) Or it is Strange, but the spell is just a trick, showing Peter the downside of making everyone forget he's Spider-Man, and by the end of the movie the spell wears off and Peter learns his lesson Except Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness says bad stuff continues Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Also, sometimes, Doctor Strange does still fuck up just like this in the comics and he's been Sorcerer Supreme for much longer. I mean, if you can get Loki to ask what the heck is Strange doing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted August 24, 2021 Author Share Posted August 24, 2021 So they are doing a Sinister Six thing here right? Green Goblin (Willem Dafoe) Dr Octopus (Alfred Molina) Sandman (Thomas Haden Church) The Lizard (Rhys Ifans) Electro (Jaime Foxx) ??? But who will be the sixth? I'm guessing not James Franco's New Goblin. Not Dane DeHaan's Green Goblin. Not Topher Grace's Venom. Not Tom Hardy's Venom or Woody Harrelson's Carnage. We haven't heard about Michael Keaton returning as Vulture or Bokeem Woodbine as Shocker or Michael Mando as Scorpion or Jake Gyllenhaal as Mysterio... So.... Paul Giamatti's RHINO!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 That's about the size of it, yeah. The rumoured leaks mention Rhino as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted August 24, 2021 Author Share Posted August 24, 2021 Would be great if Keaton came back though. I thought the post-credit scenes of Homecoming revealed that would be the case, but then nothing came of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 987 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Sony are probably too busy facepalming after realizing they could only get him back for Morbius and not NWH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted August 24, 2021 Author Share Posted August 24, 2021 The strange thing is, it's made a big deal that, at the end of Homecoming, Keaton's character knows that Peter Parker is Spider-man. And the post-credits scene continues on that thread and makes it seem like it's going to be a big deal, and a big problem for Parker in the future. Then Far From Home ignores all this, and has Mysterio & JJJ reveal who Spider-man is at the end of it anyway, making that Homecoming thread and post-credit scene completely pointless... On top of that, the JJJ reveal only happens in the mid-credits of Far From Home, the entire main film doesn't even foreshadow this at all. it's almost like the success of the Spider-verse cartoon made them completely rethink their plans for film 3 and the mid-credits scene was hastily tacked into Far From Home... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,741 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Between all the producers at Sony and Marvel Studios, I’m sure there are a lot of ideas about what direction these films should take going forward and I doubt there has ever been a well defined plan for this series that both studios agreed to. Obviously, the Sinister Six is something Sony is pushing. Setting Peter up as “the next Iron Man” seems like a Marvel Studios idea to me. Either way, I suspect they rethink their ideas for future projects literally every time they start production on another Spider-Man movie. There’s also just a lot of room for things for things like the Vulture credits scene from Homecoming to be added on a whim or filmed and then never followed up on because continuity is hard even when you have just one writer on a project, nevermind several competing agendas. The multiverse angle of this film is no doubt appealing to both studios though, not only because of the critical success of Into the Spiderverse, but because it could allow for the cleaning up of loose story threads while even granting Sony the opportunity bring in the Six without needing a string of successful solo villain movies to set it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,833 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 I just want Giacchino to use this raucous Elfman material, that’s all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 22 hours ago, JoeinAR said: Except Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness says bad stuff continues I don't know about that. Before covid happened, Dr. Strange 2 was set to be out BEFORE Spider-man 3, not after it. This was their plans pre-covid: May 1, 2020 Black Widow August 2020 Falcon and the Winter Soldier November 6, 2020 Eternals December 2020 WandaVision February 12, 2021 Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings May 7, 2021 Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness Spring 2021 Loki July 16, 2021 Spider-man: No Way Home Summer 2021 What If? Fall 2021 Hawkeye November 5, 2021 Thor: Love and Thunder May 6, 2022 Black Panther 2 2022 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania So I don't think we can expect the plot of No Way Home to have an influence on the plot of The Multiverse of Madness. In fact, they might have had to remove references to what happens in Multiverse of Madness from No Way Home's final script JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Is this guy in it? Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 Willem Dafoe? Yea, you can hear him in the trailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Jay said: Willem Dafoe? Yea, you can hear him in the trailer No, Willem Dafoe's Doc Ock! If anything goes in the multiverse, then even this would! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 18 hours ago, Alex said: I just want Giacchino to use this raucous Elfman material, that’s all. One of his very finest action cues for sure. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAvengerButton 175 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 21 hours ago, Jay said: The strange thing is, it's made a big deal that, at the end of Homecoming, Keaton's character knows that Peter Parker is Spider-man. And the post-credits scene continues on that thread and makes it seem like it's going to be a big deal, and a big problem for Parker in the future. Then Far From Home ignores all this, and has Mysterio & JJJ reveal who Spider-man is at the end of it anyway, making that Homecoming thread and post-credit scene completely pointless... On top of that, the JJJ reveal only happens in the mid-credits of Far From Home, the entire main film doesn't even foreshadow this at all. it's almost like the success of the Spider-verse cartoon made them completely rethink their plans for film 3 and the mid-credits scene was hastily tacked into Far From Home... I see Homecoming's mid-credit scene as a resolution rather than a set up. Keaton's Vulture is the only one who knows who Spiderman's real identity is, but since Peter is such a good kid who saved his daughter AND him, he feels he's honor-bound to keep Peter's secret. It's a dangling plot thread, sure, but I didn't think even back when the film was first released that it was going to end up going somewhere. I thought it was a decent epilogue that they put in there for the audience to ensure us that the status quo on Peter's identity isn't under threat of change for the next film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 Ahhh OK. It's been a while since I've seen Homecoming; I thought I remembered Keaton having an evil flair to his performance, setting up that he'll be coming after Parker in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAvengerButton 175 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Jay said: Ahhh OK. It's been a while since I've seen Homecoming; I thought I remembered Keaton having an evil flair to his performance, setting up that he'll be coming after Parker in the future I'm not a body language expert or anything so maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about. It just seems to me in the scene that he's playing it more stoic, more Poker-facey because [Scorpion] is trying to figure out if he knows Spidey's true identity and he chooses not to give it away. EDIT: Found the scene: Tallguy and Jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 3:02 PM, crocodile said: Would be nice to hear some nods to Horner and Zimmer too. Karol I think Giacchino will quote Elfman's main Spider-Man theme and the Horner or Zimmer Spidey themes. Maybe he'll intertwine them and use them in different ways. But would he go through all the trouble of referencing the villain motifs? You have the Elfman motifs for Doc Ock and Green Goblin, Zimmer's dubstep for Electro and Chris Young's awesome Sandman motif. It would be awesome if he quoted them. But it might make the score fragmented, especially on the score release. Especially with Giacchino's own Spidey and Dr. Strange themes also in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,944 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Matt C said: I think Giacchino will quote Elfman's main Spider-Man theme and the Horner or Zimmer Spidey themes. Maybe he'll intertwine them and use them in different ways. But would he go through all the trouble of referencing the villain motifs? You have the Elfman motifs for Doc Ock and Green Goblin, Zimmer's dubstep for Electro and Chris Young's awesome Sandman motif. It would be awesome if he quoted them. But it might make the score fragmented, especially on the score release. Especially with Giacchino's own Spidey and Dr. Strange themes also in the mix. I think he will compose a general theme for the villains. And he will probably quote the Elfman spidey theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I wouldn't be surprised if he perhaps used Elfman's, Horners or Zimmer's themes in the villains' individual introductions, but then have a new theme for them collectively after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted August 30, 2021 Author Share Posted August 30, 2021 59 minutes ago, Giftheck said: I wouldn't be surprised if he perhaps used Elfman's, Horners or Zimmer's themes in the villains' individual introductions, but then have a new theme for them collectively after that. That's what I'm expecting Matt C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I think he should ditch his Spidey material and use Elfman’s exclusively. Tallguy and TSMefford 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr. Rick 1,155 Posted August 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2021 Why? I love Gia's Spidey theme! One of the more memorable Marvel movie themes, in a universe where themes are sparse! My top Marvel themes: Avengers theme Spider-man theme Ant-man theme Dr. Strange theme TSMefford, Smaug The Iron and JNHFan2000 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted August 30, 2021 Author Share Posted August 30, 2021 Agreed, those are easily the 4 best main hero themes in the MCU Smaug The Iron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Never warmed to Gia’s Spider stuff, except for his use of Mysterio’s theme in part 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smaug The Iron 510 Posted August 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2021 49 minutes ago, ATXHusker said: My top Marvel themes: Avengers theme Spider-man theme Ant-man theme Dr. Strange theme Agree, but include Captain America's Theme as well. Tallguy, Dr. Rick and TSMefford 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted August 30, 2021 Author Share Posted August 30, 2021 That rounds out the top 5! Smaug The Iron and TSMefford 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,155 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, Smaug The Iron said: Agree, but include Captain America's Theme as well. Doh! How could I have left that one off my list? Senior moment hehe I've also got Iron Man 3 theme and GOTG theme in 6th and 7th place. Smaug The Iron and TSMefford 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 5 hours ago, ATXHusker said: My top Marvel themes: Avengers theme Spider-man theme Ant-man theme Dr. Strange theme Only one and a half of those overlaps with my list! Dr. Rick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,155 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 What do you mean half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Referring to the Ant-Man theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,398 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 RUMOR: Mobius and Sylvie from Loki will be in Dr Strange 2. https://thedirect.com/article/doctor-strange-2-owen-wilson-mobius-sophia-di-martino-sylvie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 BuT hE HaS nO REcOlLEcTIOn oF BeING iN tHE fILM (An hour prior to this leaking, an article popped up on Variety in which he made that exact claim) https://variety.com/2021/film/actors/andrew-garfield-eyes-of-tammy-faye-tick-tick-boom-spider-man-1235057646/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 You know how actors are, they'll deny they're playing a certain character despite all the evidence to the contrary because of NDAs. See Jason Momoa, Tatiana Maslany, et al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 It has got to be the weirdest denial I've heard though. Quote But it’s important for me to say on the record that this is not something I’m aware I am involved in. What, are you suggesting you may have filmed the part in your sleep? Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Is there audio in that Garfield clip? I tried running it through browser and a handful of Twitter apps but am not hearing anything. Couldn’t that just be some B-roll from the making of one of Garfield’s Spider-mens ? (clearly he and Maguire are going to be in it, but that doesn’t look like a smoking gun to me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,155 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 The person off-screen on the left appears to have a spidey suit on as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 There's no audio, no. It matches up with the earlier leak of a photo of him by Tobey Maguire, in which he's in the same pose. Also, from what I remember from watching behind-the-scenes videos, they used green screen and not blue screen in both TASM films, presumably because of the blue in the suit. (That actually raises a good point re. this, but they more or less eliminated the need for a particular type of screen because they're just going to CGI the suits anyway, and it looks like TOm's suits don't have blue in them for this film) Somebody lip read him, and though they couldn't make out everything, part of what he's saying is apparently "you're Spider-Man". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 4 hours ago, mstrox said: Couldn’t that just be some B-roll from the making of one of Garfield’s Spider-mens ? (clearly he and Maguire are going to be in it, but that doesn’t look like a smoking gun to me) It doesn’t look like any scene from TASM or TASM2. Nor does it look like a deep fake either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,381 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Well that settles it then. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,323 Posted September 13, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2021 TSMefford, Smaug The Iron and A. A. Ron 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,381 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 That looks terrific. And I NEED to see Rogers: The Musical! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,381 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 "The best gifts come with a bow." I hope someone is awfully pleased with themselves about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,398 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Yeah, this Hawkeye show looks pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Honestly, I might actually be most excited about Hawkeye out of all these DIsney+ Marvel shows. It looks like a really fun blast. Count me in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,944 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 It kinda has Die Hard mixed with Elf feel!! X-mas themed action series. Love it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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