Holko 9,516 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: I'm probably the only one in the world who hasn't seen Endgame. raises hand Me neither! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 #makenotseeingendgamegreatagain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: The Russos are not for me?! Remember Civil War! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 20 hours ago, Alexcremers said: I'm probably the only one in the world who hasn't seen Endgame. Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 20 hours ago, Stefancos said: Remember Civil War! Holko and Naïve Old Fart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 You were so disappointed, after the superb Winter Soldier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Indeed! Hopefully Endgame will be better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Its prety goood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Stefancos said: You were so disappointed, after the superb Winter Soldier. It is the finest film ever that's not directed by Nolan! Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Civil War wasn't as good as Winter Soldier but it was still a fine film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I initially dismissed it as a rubbish failure. It isn't completely. Its quite good up untill they introduce Peter Parker and Aunt May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Ah, yes, Peter Parker, now I remember the movie ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 All our "heroes" fighting pointlessly on a cinematically unattractive airport! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 That was an all-time low for the Russos. Too many superheroes in one scene is boring. Is Endgame like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 The final third is kinda like that. Its the biggest movie ever, Alex! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 The final act of Infinity War is nothing like the bland end fight in Civil War. There are real stakes, and it’s much more innovative in the way the heroes use their powers to combat Thanos. It also helps that throughout the film, you have different groups of characters doing different things, which prevents the drama from getting stale. Great film! Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Yes! Instead of a group of people, most of whom we know, fighting each other over their viewpoints (well, most of them), we have the heroes we know and others we don't punching and shooting gigantic infinite hordes of bland faceless CG mush armies! We have never seen that before! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 The conflict in Civil War is contrived. Yes, you have some of the typical “army of faceless creatures attacking the heroes” stuff in Infinity War, but there’s enough additional stuff going on to keep it interesting, methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Alex its not for you, too many explosions and it was extremely popular and satisfying to the fans, not to mention critically acclaimed. And its fun. The drama between Rogers and Stark is compelling. The thing these films never get the credit they deserve is for the acting. These films are modern day Shakespeare. People forget Shakespeare was for the masses not the elite. These actors play off each other so well they make each other better. RDjr. gives a performance in Endgame that is equal if not better than many Best Oscar winning performances. Part of that credit must go to Chris Evans whose sincerity and stoic characterization shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Don't bullshit me, Rogers! Did you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Has anyone watched the video on YouTube, that juxtaposes the plot of BvS, and CIVIL WAR...and discovers that they are exactly the same?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 29 minutes ago, Richard said: Has anyone watched the video on YouTube, that juxtaposes the plot of BvS, and CIVIL WAR...and discovers that they are exactly the same?! I mean we had a whole thread here on JWFan about that topic http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/25992-batman-v-superman-versus-captain-america-v-iron-man/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Thank you, for that, Jay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Thank you for being a friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,948 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 On 7/24/2019 at 6:35 PM, John said: The conflict in Civil War is contrived. As all "Superhero versus Superhero" stories are. It really makes these responsible heroes look like nine-year olds. The smallest disagreement makes them come to blows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,649 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Richard said: Has anyone watched the video on YouTube, that juxtaposes the plot of BvS, and CIVIL WAR...and discovers that they are exactly the same?! I have never watched any YouTuber videos except for the one tiny Japanese lady who eats twenty pizzas at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 49 minutes ago, Chen G. said: As all "Superhero versus Superhero" stories are. It really makes these responsible heroes look like nine-year olds. The smallest disagreement makes them come to blows. You mean largest. Collateral damage is never a contrived or small disagreement. It might well be the most significant argument against warefare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 I will write down "behavior of 9-year-olds' and add it to Joe's "many, many explosions". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 I never said many many I said too many. More than one I'd guess is too many for you except for those in BB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 2 hours ago, The Original said: Thank you for being a friend JWfan, as you know, means "friendship" 25 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: I never said many many I said too many. More than one I'd guess is too many for you except for those in BB. Many too many. Wojo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 ... have stood where I stand. Wojo and Naïve Old Fart 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Many more, will stand here too, unfortunately. A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 Wow check out this deleted scene from Endgame MASSIVE SPOILER IF YOU HAVENT SEEN IT YET Spoiler Kinda surprised they cut that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,649 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Probably felt too much like a similar scene that came after it. #NoSpoilers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 Yea, I get that it'd be somewhat redundant with the funeral scene, but I thought this was almost a better version of the same type of scene. If they kept this, they could have had a different funeral scene that focused on the characters that weren't at the battle... or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I think the only important thing it does is show Spoiler Gamora turning away from the group, since she's not at the funeral. I don't know if the theatrical cut shows that. Nor do I remember it explaining how she gets off world, either. But I don't like the vibe of the cut scene. In light of the contemporary usage of kneeling for political disagreement, this feels bizarre. And redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,948 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I think that a moment this significant deserves to be commemorated by more than one scene. I like it. Spoiler Tony's death still feels like it was primarily contract-motivated, though. He isn't the type of hero that ends his life in tragedy: I should think a Last-Crusade-type happy ending would have been more fitting for him. But, given how much I love that character, it is effective as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 Yea Spoiler in the theatrical cut you never see her again after Tony saves the day, so you don't even know if Gamorra disappeared with the rest of 2014 Thano's crew or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted July 30, 2019 Author Share Posted July 30, 2019 Spider-Man: Far From Home is saving the MCU by ignoring its continuity Thought this article had some interesting points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,475 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Just saw the deleted scene. Corny beyond words. Yeah, this movie just ain't for me. I feel I am completely over the MCU now. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I think it’s a nice little moment, though I can see why it was ultimately cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 They're doing the pose from Iron Man 3! Yeah, it looks ridiculous, especially seeing Captain Marvel who's been in the MCU all of five minutes, awkwardly look around. So glad they cut this bullshit. 6 hours ago, Jay said: Spider-Man: Far From Home is saving the MCU by ignoring its continuity Thought this article had some interesting points So much for Marvel's tight-knit planning, but I don't blame them for skipping over the whole earth drama - hey, if they didn't axe their amazing Netflix shows, they could've dealt with the consequences of the blip in a more human way. Although, before Thanos, I believe the MCU's big catastrophe that affected earth was called 'The Incident' when Loki swarmed New York with the Geonosians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 The MCU really isnt all that tight-knit once you begin to think about it too much. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: The MCU really isnt all that tight-knit once you begin to think about it too much. Definitely, though I always hear how well-planned and thought out the MCU is, especially the little hints and links to all their films - which is just absurd. Thanos wasn't really built up at all. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,649 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 It's not tightly knit, and if it were it would be such a drag. To me, continuity should always come second to story - well, third after story and character. They shouldn't have to bend over backwards to retcon something from The Incredible Hulk when they want to make a new Avengers movie. Thus far, they've mainly steered clear. John and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,948 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Its not "continuity", its the overrding storytelling, which by the way is the whole point of making more than one film, in the first place. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,649 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,948 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Stefancos said: The MCU really isnt all that tight-knit once you begin to think about it "When Steve almost lifted Thor's hammer in Age of Ultron it was TOTALLY planned, with Endgame in mind!" Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I never saw it move! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, Stefancos said: I never saw it move! Are you blind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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