The MCU - Marvel Cinematic Universe

[Gabriel Bezerra 624]

50 minutes ago, #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal said:

Cap's beard does nothing for him.

[Meredith McKay 7,783]

He looks way better with it.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,858]

1 hour ago, Gabriel Bezerra said:

 

Hemsworth looks hot with his beard. Like an angel had mated with a pirate.

[Yavar Moradi 3,504]

On 15/05/2025 at 11:20 AM, Edmilson said:

The first few episodes of WV were decent, the finale was underwhelming.

 

And the middle episodes were fantastic! (Too bad the finale was so affected by Covid... very disappointing.)

 

On 15/05/2025 at 11:20 AM, Edmilson said:

Then, the Multiverse of Shitness movie came in and shat all over Wanda's arc. Still, I miss when MCU shows could be at least as bold as this one.

 

Yup, and yup. You should try LOKI though! Both seasons were quite excellent/bold.

 

Yavar

[crocodile 9,130]

On 15/05/2025 at 6:20 PM, Edmilson said:

Then, the Multiverse of Shitness movie came in and shat all over Wanda's arc.

Did it?

 

Karol

[Gabriel Bezerra 624]

The book made her do it!

[Yavar Moradi 3,504]

2 minutes ago, crocodile said:

Did it?

 

Yup. Screenwriter(s) hadn't seen WandaVision when they wrote the script.

 

Yavar

[crocodile 9,130]

3 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said:

 

Yup. Screenwriter(s) hadn't seen WandaVision when they wrote the script.

 

Yavar

I don't think it is that inconsistent regardless. I don't understand what people mean.

 

Karol

[Edmilson 10,347]

13 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said:

Yup. Screenwriter(s) hadn't seen WandaVision when they wrote the script.

 

It was just one guy. The same that Feige later hired to write Avengers: Secret Wars when the MCU was going through its "These Rick and Morty writers surely should work for us instead!" phase.

 

Then Quantumania happened and it was out with Jonathan Majors and Rick and Morty writers and in with Russos, Downey and the writers of Infinity War & Endgame.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,858]

20 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said:

Yup, and yup. You should try LOKI though! Both seasons were quite excellent/bold.

 

Yavar

 

Loki S1 and 2, Moon Knight, She-Hulk: Attorney At Law, Hawkeye and Daredevil: Born Again are amongst the MCU'S best "content". And Agatha All Allong. Which occasionally floored me emotionally.

20 hours ago, Edmilson said:

Then Quantumania happened and it was out with Jonathan Majors and Rick and Morty writers and in with Russos, Downey and the writers of Infinity War & Endgame.

 

I'm far from a literate Marvel Comics fan. But nothing about Downey Jr reminds me of Doctor Doom.

Pitch perfect Tony Stark though.

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,722]

Is Doctor Doom going to be some kind of Tony Stark "variant" like in the Liko television series?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,858]

That would be the dumbest thing 

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,722]

I bet it's that.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,858]

These films will be an epic merger of IP from Fox to Disney's Marvel.

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,722]

With some awesome new Alan Silvestri scores, which is what keeps me tethered to this franchise.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,858]

Still nowhere as good as Judge Dredd.

[Edmilson 10,347]

Judge Dredd is one of Silvestri's best action scores, actually.

[Mr. Hooper 4,953]

'Predator' rulz.

 

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,722]

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,858]

Mostly second or third tier scores

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,722]

Some pretty cool shit though.

[Mysterio 34]

2 hours ago, Lady Dimitrescu said:

Is Doctor Doom going to be some kind of Tony Stark "variant" like in the Liko television series?

RDJ will play multiple characters in the film, though about Doom i heard that he's not a Tony variant he's just Victor Von Doom that looks like our Tony Stark (like Chris Evans playing Johnny in F4 and Cap in MCU) but apparently he will find out that he looks like Earth 616(MCU Universe) Tony Stark and he will act like he's a Tony Variant to deceive the People and The Avengers to follow him and Manipulate them into fighting The X-Men during the incursion(s). I'm very excited to be honest, as long as they make it fun i think the general audience will enjoy it too, and of course it goes without saying that i'm very excited for Alan Silvestri's score

[Nick1Ø66 6,711]

👆 Rubbish. Where did you hear this? Reddit?

 

There's a roughly zero percent chance that Doom isn't some kind of variation of Stark. The notion that he's an intergalactic villain who happens to bear a resemblance to Tony Stark is so stupid I doubt even Disney would do it. 

 

The idea that RDJ plays multiple versions of Stark, and that Doom is using his appearance to manipulate the Avengers, X-Men and everyone else, yeah, that much at least is plausible.

[Meredith McKay 7,783]

1 hour ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

👆 Rubbish. Where did you hear this? Reddit?

 

His uncle that works at Ninten- err... Marvel.

 

[Edmilson 10,347]

15 minutes ago, Meredith McKay said:

His uncle that works at Ninten- err... Marvel.

 

Judging by his username, I'd say he used to work for Stark, then got fired and is now mad at him for having called his holographic invention "B.A.R.F." 

[Meredith McKay 7,783]

42 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Judging by his username, I'd say he used to work for Stark, then got fired and is now mad at him for having called his holographic invention "B.A.R.F." 

"The composers name is... the composers name is Alan Silvestri!"

[Mysterio 34]

5 hours ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

👆 Rubbish. Where did you hear this? Reddit?

 

There's a roughly zero percent chance that Doom isn't some kind of variation of Stark. The notion that he's an intergalactic villain who happens to bear a resemblance to Tony Stark is so stupid I doubt even Disney would do it. 

 

The idea that RDJ plays multiple versions of Stark, and that Doom is using his appearance to manipulate the Avengers, X-Men and everyone else, yeah, that much at least is plausible.

Heard from the same people that said RDJ will be playing Doctor Doom, 2 months before it was revealed and a lot of other leaks that ultimately Turned out to be True. You don't have to believe me go on twitter, their names are Daniel RPK, MyTimeToShineHello and Alex Perez. You can also follow UnboxPHD who has been leaking videos from the Set. 

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,722]

Who's going to be the new leader of the Avengers? Sam? Florence? Bucky? I tried Reddit for this, but nobody else seems clear on it.

 

In the 2010s, it was clear that Steve was the leader, but now it seems fuzzy.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,858]

Stark was the leader, he payed the bills.

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,722]

Eh. Sure he was the bankroller, but Cap really led the team. Even Endgame finishes on a shot of him.

[Mysterio 34]

1 hour ago, Lady Dimitrescu said:

Who's going to be the new leader of the Avengers? Sam? Florence? Bucky? I tried Reddit for this, but nobody else seems clear on it.

 

In the 2010s, it was clear that Steve was the leader, but now it seems fuzzy.

I think they're trying to make Sam the Leader of The Avengers when they're all together. The Argument from fans is that Sam isn't Superhuman so it's going to be hard for him to Lead them but i think the next 2 Avengers' film will show who the New Leader is. 

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,722]

10 minutes ago, Mysterio said:

I think they're trying to make Sam the Leader of The Avengers when they're all together. The Argument from fans is that Sam isn't Superhuman so it's going to be hard for him to Lead them but i think the next 2 Avengers' film will show who the New Leader is. 

 

He was practising with his shield in the TV show, but christ his joints aren't going to forgive him unless he takes the serum.

 

Btw is that Secret Wars show worth watching? It only gets a ho-hum rating on IMDb.

[Mysterio 34]

8 minutes ago, Lady Dimitrescu said:

 

He was practising with his shield in the TV show, but christ his joints aren't going to forgive him unless he takes the serum.

 

Btw is that Secret Wars show worth watching? It only gets a ho-hum rating on IMDb.

Yeah Sam definitely needs that serum, he will retire very soon if he doesn't.

 

If you mean Secret Invasion then absolutely not, the show itself is alright until the last episode (one of the worst things in Comic Book History) but it's not worth watching, unfortunately.

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,722]

10 minutes ago, Mysterio said:

If you mean Secret Invasion then absolutely not, the show itself is alright until the last episode (one of the worst things in Comic Book History) but it's not worth watching, unfortunately.

 

Ah okay, so I can skip that then? I've got Black Widow, Hawkeye, Moon Night, Agatha, GOTG3, Doc Strange 2, Thor 4, and Deadpool/Wolverine to go.

 

But what about these other ones like Black Panther 2, Eternals, Shang-Chi, Ms Marvel, The Marvels, Echo, She-Hulk, Werewolf by Night... what are all these? Which ones are decent/essential and which ones are skippable? I'm kind of curious about The Marvels only because I find Brie kinda nice to look at.

 

I've already seen the Spideys, Ant-Man Quadrophenia, and... dunno, think that's it.

[tomsmoviemadness 4,180]

1 hour ago, Lady Dimitrescu said:

But what about these other ones like Black Panther 2, Eternals, Shang-Chi, Ms Marvel, The Marvels, Echo, She-Hulk, Werewolf by Night... what are all these? Which ones are decent/essential and which ones are skippable? I'm kind of curious about The Marvels only because I find Brie kinda nice to look at.

My personal opinion and advice would be to watch Black Panther 2 & Shang-Chi because there are characters in both films that will show up in the Avengers films. Both are great, but Shang-Chi especially is fantastic.

 

Eternals is in my opinion an underrated film. It's beautifully filmed and I actually really enjoy the whole thing.

 

I'm also of the opinion that both Ms. Marvel & The Marvels are a lot of fun. The Marvels was undeservedly bashed I think and has one of the coolest action scenes Marvel's done in the past few years.

 

Echo is very very meh. Werewolf By Night is a fun one off but not essential viewing and She-Hulk is very good at points, but the writers of the show were the wrong people to hire for this character so it also misses the mark quite a few times.

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,722]

8 minutes ago, tomsmoviemadness said:

I'm also of the opinion that both Ms. Marvel & The Marvels are a lot of fun. The Marvels was undeservedly bashed I think and has one of the coolest action scenes Marvel's done in the past few years.

 

Is The Marvels more entertaining than Captain Marvel? I found that one a bit of a slog aside from Brie and the cat. I'll probably get around to it in my catch-up marathon.

 

The Eternals has Angelina as a selling point for me, but if it's also good, I'm up for it.

[Mysterio 34]

Just now, Lady Dimitrescu said:

 

Is The Marvels more entertaining than Captain Marvel? I found that one a bit slog aside from Brie and the cat. I'll probably get around to it in my catch-up marathon.

 

The Eternals has Angelina as a selling point for me, but if it's also good, I'm up for it.

To be honest I did not like The Marvels at all, even the director said that is not her movie and she wasn't pleased with the final result but it's essential (especially the ending and the post credit scene). The film is very very short so it's alright just to watch it once and then never again (in my opinion)

 

Eternals is an interesting one, not essential anymore since they're moving away from it BUT it's the most different Marvel movie to date, personally not a fan but i respect the fact that they tried it

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,722]

1 minute ago, Mysterio said:

To be honest I did not like The Marvels at all, even the director said that is not her movie and she wasn't pleased with the final result but it's essential (especially the ending and the post credit scene). The film is very very short so it's alright just to watch it once and then never again (in my opinion)

 

I'm also wondering why Brie isn't listed for any future MCU projects, leading me to suspect Carol either dies or is conveniently written out somewhere along the line I haven't seen yet. Or is she just not interested in returning anymore?

[Mysterio 34]

25 minutes ago, Lady Dimitrescu said:

 

I'm also wondering why Brie isn't listed for any future MCU projects, leading me to suspect Carol either dies or is conveniently written out somewhere along the line I haven't seen yet. Or is she just not interested in returning anymore?

I think Marvel and Brie aren't interested in doing anything together anymore since the fans (and critics) don't seem to like Captain Marvel or don't seem to like the way she's written in the MCU. The character is very strong and they don't seem to know what to do with that, but she's hasn't died, well not yet at least

[Stark 664]

5 hours ago, Lady Dimitrescu said:

 

Ah okay, so I can skip that then? I've got Black Widow, Hawkeye, Moon Night, Agatha, GOTG3, Doc Strange 2, Thor 4, and Deadpool/Wolverine to go.

 

But what about these other ones like Black Panther 2, Eternals, Shang-Chi, Ms Marvel, The Marvels, Echo, She-Hulk, Werewolf by Night... what are all these? Which ones are decent/essential and which ones are skippable? I'm kind of curious about The Marvels only because I find Brie kinda nice to look at.

 

I've already seen the Spideys, Ant-Man Quadrophenia, and... dunno, think that's it.

Black Panther 2 is great. Shang-Chi is good. Werewolf by Night is good (and probably irrelevant to the universe). The others all have middling popularity. The Marvels might matter to the universe but they're probably writing out any major connections after is flopped...

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,722]

Just finished Loki. I needed to do some Redditing to understand what the heck happened in the finale. I imagine Thor would've had a good laugh at it all had he watched the show. Loki had is own little avengers thing going there for a bit.

[Mysterio 34]

34 minutes ago, Stark said:

Black Panther 2 is great. Shang-Chi is good. Werewolf by Night is good (and probably irrelevant to the universe). The others all have middling popularity. The Marvels might matter to the universe but they're probably writing out any major connections after is flopped...

The End Credit scene introduces the... you know, so that will be very essentiel for Doomsday but they will explain it heavily in the movie so i don't think it will matter if anybody watches it or not.

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,722]

Watching Black Widow, not the one with Debra Winger. It's funny how Pug kinda upstages ScarJo in her own movie.

[Edmilson 10,347]

I like the opening scene with Natasha riding a bike. Felt very Malickian, and pretty unlike the MCU. Balfe's score works great.

 

In fact, I think the best moments are those with the "family" being, well, a family.

 

However, the action scenes are kinda bland and forgettable, and the climax was pretty bad, with one scene that became infamous for its terrible CGI.

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,722]

Oh the bit where Florence has something blow up in her face and she flies away backwards?

[Edmilson 10,347]

Yep, that one. It felt like a gif made on Microsoft Paint. But I'm willing to give it a pass as that was probably done during the pandemic.

[Nick1Ø66 6,711]

Really, Black Widow should have had a movie that was truly her own, and it should have been done a lot sooner. Making her 'origin' film after the character's death, as a de facto bridge to introducing Yelena, was just wrong.

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,722]

Lulz at the Elaine cameo after the credits.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,858]

1 hour ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

Really, Black Widow should have had a movie that was truly her own, and it should have been done a lot sooner. Making her 'origin' film after the character's death, as a de facto bridge to introducing Yelena, was just wrong.

 

The MCU was resistant to women having their own movies for a while.

 

Fuck haters, Captain Marvel is a hoot. And I love WW84. It genuinely abs and endearingly leaned into its 80's vibe.

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,722]

WW84 had such a boring script. WW1 wasn't great either but it felt competent at least.

 

I'm slogging my way through Shang-Chi right now. It's a little too international for me. But the Mandarin actor guy showing up made me perk up a bit.