#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 It matcher perfectly, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 There's nothing Disneyfied about the opening raptor pen attack in JP. Used to terrify me as a kid and still sends shivers down my spine. It doesn't resort to TLW's relative gratuitousness, but it works wonderfully.I didn't found it terrifying in the least but then you can imagine which movies a male teenager watched around '93 in cinema or tv, compared to a lot of them, JURASSIC PARK seemed rather tame if well-directed (the action sequences at least). The only Spielberg movie that ever terrified me was JAWS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1_freeze 131 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I didn't found it terrifying in the least but then you can imagine which movies a male teenager watched around '93 in cinema or tv, compared to a lot of them, JURASSIC PARK seemed rather tame if well-directed (the action sequences at least). The only Spielberg movie that ever terrified me was JAWS.Jaws was underwhelming in that department. The real scary stuff as a child was the vodoo ceremony in TOD.As an adult the only Spielberg film i found a bit scary was Minority Report, which still remains his best film after Saving Private Ryan.KOTCS isn't nearly as damaging to the series as the Star Wars prequels. It's just a dumb Indy adventure.Lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymenard 54 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 There's a plastic post-modern touch to the original JP. It was of course, because of the times. 1992 (when it was shot) was going through this phase of arts. Same happened to a lot of other medium (music, architecture, clothing, design, etc...). Sure that opening scene might have been scary, but when you start dissecting it you see a lot of smoke & giant floodlights in the background, it feels like a movie setup and not natural at all. There's no grit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Way more exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 It's official! Hans Zimmer should score Star Wars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,351 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Hans Zimmer WILL score SW at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Rather Hansu then Gia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Depends on the result of the new JP score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I hope it will be better then his previous JP score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Regardless of Jurassic world, Giacchino would compose a better star wars score than zimmer. Regardless, too, the amount of hate you have towards the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 yes, I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Cappuccino would do an excellent Star Wars score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 More faithful to the Star Wars tradition, definitely. But "better"... would imply assuming that Giacchino is a better composer than Zimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Giacchino is a better composer than Zimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'm not the biggest Zimmer fan in the world. but he still is a far more interesting composer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Indeed.I'm not the biggest Zimmer fan in the world. but he still is a far more interesting composer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,351 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Don't forget that Zimmer is 10 years older than Giacchino. You can't compare Giacchino to today's Zimmer, compare him to the Zimmer circa 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Zimmer still wins. Probably by more of a margin than he does now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Yup.And I'd take 90s Zimmer over Giacchino too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Interstellar > Lost > Angels & Demons > the rest of Giacchino's output Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I really need to check Lost out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 FOR CHRIST SAKEto each his own Jilal and Jonesy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Hmm, no. It's definitely Giacchino for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 FOR CHRIST SAKEto each his own Why is it such a big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Many see Gia as the next JW, because he writes in an "old fashioned" symphonic style! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I think Giacchino makes good use of the whole orchestra, which Zimmer does not. My favorite Giacchino scores are, to me, better than my favorite Zimmer scores.More often than not, I find Zimmer's music (in-film) more affecting/effective than Giacchino's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I think Giacchino makes good use of the whole orchestra, which Zimmer does not. My favorite Giacchino scores are, to me, better than my favorite Zimmer scores.More often than not, I find Zimmer's music (in-film) more affecting/effective than Giacchino's.I'd say the way Zimmer utilized woodwinds in Interstellar alone is more interesting than anything Giacchino had done in that department until Jupiter Ascending. But even that's nothing special. And that's pretty telling since one is a symphonic composer and the other isn't, so the comparison is silly to begin with. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Many see Gia as the next JW, because he writes in an "old fashioned" symphonic style!Because it's been on i will give the spotlight to a composer who is around the same age and writes in a positively 'old-fashioned' style and even knows how to orchestrate. It's a given that Zimmer shouldn't/wouldn't/couldn't touch stuff like this but if the hailed 'symphonic' Giacchino finally would even get around such a good and competent themes-and-variations approach and write a tune not in mortal danger of expiring due to galloping shortness of breath after 6 notes, i would be more than willing to sing his praises (that he can do it i know, it's just so infrequent i don't even remember when). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,278 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 "Dejah's Theme" from John Carter was probably the last Giacchino melody to make an impression on me, though I don't remember how much variation there was on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 There's nothing Disneyfied about the opening raptor pen attack in JP. Used to terrify me as a kid and still sends shivers down my spine. It doesn't resort to TLW's relative gratuitousness, but it works wonderfully.I didn't found it terrifying in the least but then you can imagine which movies a male teenager watched around '93 in cinema or tv, compared to a lot of them, JURASSIC PARK seemed rather tame if well-directed (the action sequences at least). The only Spielberg movie that ever terrified me was JAWS.I was three years old, so I don't think CANDYMAN, SILENCE OF THE LAMBS or JACOB'S LADDER were ever on the cards.I'd say the way Zimmer utilized woodwinds in Interstellar alone is more interesting than anything Giacchino had done in that department until Jupiter Ascending. But even that's nothing special. And that's pretty telling since one is a symphonic composer and the other isn't, so the comparison is silly to begin with.I don't really think of Gia as a symphonic composer. He's still big band writer, even when he's using a 120 piece orchestra. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'd say the way Zimmer utilized woodwinds in Interstellar alone is more interesting than anything Giacchino had done in that department until Jupiter Ascending. But even that's nothing special. And that's pretty telling since one is a symphonic composer and the other isn't, so the comparison is silly to begin with.I don't really think of Gia as a symphonic composer. He's still big band writer, even when he's using a 120 piece orchestra.That's pretty much how I feel. Giacchino's scores feel like marching band arrangements of themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,653 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I am sure that there is part of Williams thinking he is too old to have to deal with Abrams staggered scoring/recording wishes. However, he has be happy that he will be scoring edited footage that will not (likely) be reedited post scoring. I listened to TPM ost yesterday, which reminded me of how hacked up the music is in the film, and it is the least problematic of the prequels. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I am sure that there is part of Williams thinking he is too old to have to deal with Abrams staggered scoring/recording wishes. However, he has be happy that he will be scoring edited footage that will not (likely) be reedited post scoring. I listened to TPM ost yesterday, which reminded me of how hacked up the music is in the film, and it is the least problematic of the prequels.Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to bow out of the other episodes simply due to the exhausting writing schedule. I've read stuff from this forum (2005 or so) about his exhaustion from The Prisoner of Azkaban's scoring process and the difficulty adapting to new directors being primary factors for him turning down Goblet of Fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,351 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I thought he couldn't do Goblet of Fire because he was already commited to Munich and Memoirs of a Geisha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 we only have rumors he was exhausted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I thought he couldn't do Goblet of Fire because he was already commited to ROTS, Spielberg's 2 films, and wanted to do Geisha.That was the "main" factor but the scoring process of POA certainly didn't encourage him to continue (allegedly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,351 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 If Spielberg's 2 films came out in 2006 instead of 2005 I wonder if he would have done HP4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,278 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Well, Munich was really rushed into the end of 2005, wasn't it? Spielberg didn't even start filming it until July...I feel like the decision about GOF would have already been made before it had a confirmed release date, but maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 No. I think JW was done at that point.Didn't he have a rough time on the third one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,351 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Judging by the sheet music yea - there were a TON of rewrites - almost every cue. The 'family theme' was completely rewritten at one point and replaced with the one we know now. I'd love to know if any cues featuring the original theme were recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 There's nothing Disneyfied about the opening raptor pen attack in JP. Used to terrify me as a kid and still sends shivers down my spine. It doesn't resort to TLW's relative gratuitousness, but it works wonderfully.I didn't found it terrifying in the least but then you can imagine which movies a male teenager watched around '93 in cinema or tv, compared to a lot of them, JURASSIC PARK seemed rather tame if well-directed (the action sequences at least). The only Spielberg movie that ever terrified me was JAWS.I was three years old, so I don't think CANDYMAN, SILENCE OF THE LAMBS or JACOB'S LADDER were ever on the cards.I'd say the way Zimmer utilized woodwinds in Interstellar alone is more interesting than anything Giacchino had done in that department until Jupiter Ascending. But even that's nothing special. And that's pretty telling since one is a symphonic composer and the other isn't, so the comparison is silly to begin with.I don't really think of Gia as a symphonic composer. He's still big band writer, even when he's using a 120 piece orchestra.That's actually an excellent point. There are so many moments, particularly in his action music, where it's just a tad too swingy. It's like if Mancini had been unable to jettison his suaveness when it wasn't needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Judging by the sheet music yea - there were a TON of rewrites - almost every cue.The 'family theme' was completely rewritten at one point and replaced with the one we know now. I'd love to know if any cues featuring the original theme were recorded.Can the sheet music for the original Family Theme be found anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Judging by the sheet music yea - there were a TON of rewrites - almost every cue.The 'family theme' was completely rewritten at one point and replaced with the one we know now. I'd love to know if any cues featuring the original theme were recorded.Window from the Past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,351 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Judging by the sheet music yea - there were a TON of rewrites - almost every cue. The 'family theme' was completely rewritten at one point and replaced with the one we know now. I'd love to know if any cues featuring the original theme were recorded.Can the sheet music for the original Family Theme be found anywhere? Well yea, that's how I saw it Judging by the sheet music yea - there were a TON of rewrites - almost every cue. The 'family theme' was completely rewritten at one point and replaced with the one we know now. I'd love to know if any cues featuring the original theme were recorded. Window from the Past? Yes, that theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Judging by the sheet music yea - there were a TON of rewrites - almost every cue.The 'family theme' was completely rewritten at one point and replaced with the one we know now. I'd love to know if any cues featuring the original theme were recorded.Can the sheet music for the original Family Theme be found anywhere?Well yea, that's how I saw it Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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