karelm 2,890 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Jilal said: Again, thanks for your incredibly insightful feedback, @karelm. By the way ... A Kontakt trick that could drastically reduce the RAM footprint of your orchestral template: Some libraries come shipped with a variety of different microphone positions. Orchestral Tools' Berlin Strings, for example, offers a close mic, a concert master mic, an AB mic set, a Decca tree and a surround mic set. I only use the Decca tree, so I basically selected all the sample groups that contained the samples for the microphone positions I don't use and removed all of their zones (samples). You have to be very careful when doing this (and please, do not save the patch you are altering at any rate, instead save the multi - this won't affect the factory patches), but when done right you can save a phenomenal amount of RAM. Even when a multi-microphone patch is purged, the individual microphone positions still take up a hefty amount of RAM of their own. Sometimes simply removing the groups instead of emptying them will work, but newer libraries tend to be scripted in ways that require the groups to be in a certain order/position, so I recommend using the above method. This way, I've effectively reduced the RAM footprint of my computer when running my orchestral template (using Berlin Woodwinds, Berlin Strings, etc.) to 42%, coming from 58% to 60% (I have only 16 GB of RAM). Quite hefty a change, if you ask me! If you think this could help you, but have trouble applying the technique, feel free to PM me. Very helpful, thanks. I now have Berlin Brass but its huge on memory. Can you take a screenshot of how to remove all the sample zones you mention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,278 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Spitfire has made a beginner version if their BBC orchestra samples available for $49 or free with questionaire. https://www.spitfireaudio.com/shop/a-z/bbc-symphony-orchestra-discover/?fbclid=IwAR2dA-CyKx2Avqb-wZMtCbHRzLhBNNKxdkMqfXNrRQIc7wB1V5KofSPFoME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Any recommendations for a high quality choir library BESIDES East West Symphonic Choirs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 243 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 I think Voxos by Cinesamples is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 But I think that doesn't distinguish between soprano, alto, tenor and bass, but just between men and women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,854 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 On 5/22/2020 at 11:01 PM, gkgyver said: Any recommendations for a high quality choir library BESIDES East West Symphonic Choirs? Yeah, East West Hollywood Choirs. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Oh right, that has Wordbuilder too. I'll give it a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 243 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 23 hours ago, gkgyver said: But I think that doesn't distinguish between soprano, alto, tenor and bass, but just between men and women. I don't think so: https://cinesamples.com/product/voxos-epic-choirs karelm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I don't see anything about separate patches for SATB like in Symphonic Choirs. It reads: The included SATB Voice Leading Engine can take incoming midi data sent from a piano track and assign the proper notes to each section automatically. Meaning you don't actually have control over the different sections, but they're applied automatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 243 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 But there's one picture on that page that shows you can activate every section seperate, no? I'm quite sure I watched a walkthrough video about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,854 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Hollywood Choirs sounds much more realistic IMO. Plus there's a 60% off sale going on right now, so the price is way down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Is East West finally fucking off with the iLok key? What a pain in the arse. It's 2020, I could control every single item in my home with fingertips on my smartphone, and yet, I need to plug in a physical device to a computer in order to use a music software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 243 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Yes, still iLok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,854 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 It's frustrating, but it's worth the sound quality of the samples IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 I see there is no ilok required for Hollywood Choirs, just an ilok account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,854 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Really? Interesting. I haven't gotten it yet so I wasn't sure. Maybe the newer libraries don't need one anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Are those large Orchestral Tools libraries really for download? How long on earth does that take to download? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,854 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 5 hours ago, gkgyver said: Are those large Orchestral Tools libraries really for download? How long on earth does that take to download? Depends on your internet speed. I think the last one I downloaded took an entire day or two. Most of the really big ones (like the HO Diamond versions) I got a long time ago so they had to come on separate 1 TB hard drives. Took forever just to transfer the files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pando 141 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 On 5/30/2020 at 7:00 PM, gkgyver said: Is East West finally fucking off with the iLok key? What a pain in the arse. It's 2020, I could control every single item in my home with fingertips on my smartphone, and yet, I need to plug in a physical device to a computer in order to use a music software. And if you lose that thing, you'll lose your library as well, unless you buy insurance ($30/yr). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,854 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Pando said: And if you lose that thing, you'll lose your library as well, unless you buy insurance ($30/yr). You don't lose your library as long as you don't lose access to your account. If you lose your iLok I believe you can just contact customer support to sort it out. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Personally, I've never had an issue with iLok itself. I have horrid luck with laptops so the iLok is connected to my workstation 24/7. I used to have issues with some sort of PACE verification or something and would need to reboot, but that hasn't happened in years. I can imagine the iLok being an issue though with those who are more on the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Some time ago, all of my East West stuff told me the licenses expired. It took me forever to find out why on earth. I ordered Hollywood Choirs for a 60% discount this weekend. I'm updating all of my computer stuff, so why not that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 If you could pick one, Spitfire Symphonic Strings or Berlin Strings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 243 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 I would recommend watching walkthroughs on youtube. Each of them have down- and upsides. Depends on what you are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nemesis 243 Posted November 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2020 Can't believe I won in the Spitfire Tombola! KK, Manakin Skywalker, ragoz350 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,278 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Nemesis said: Can't believe I won in the Spitfire Tombola! Congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 243 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Thank you! Downloading them right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Fuckers from Spitfire reduced the price on PC libraries, but not on StaffPad libraries, which I actually eyed for Black Weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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